Tiny Bobble Beta Released - A new Bubble Bobble arcade port

[TjLaZer]

Originally Posted by KONEY

LOL, seems like I started something here!

BTW I just got an A1000 (for freeee!) so I totally support Ross in his search for truth

Do you have 512k of chip and some fast RAM?

Game does run pretty well on the 1000, Will be a treat to get this working. This game is really great! Much better than the original one!!!!

[NorthWay]

I would love to hear more about the copper blits saga. I once tried it for myself, but that seemed to go off-rail halfway through my list.
(Even on the C-One where I assumed it had to be my code changes that was tripping it, though I can't remember if I got it to work on my A4000 either.)

[mrupp]

Originally Posted by DamienD

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Not really, we just want the uber trainer damn it!!!

<just messing with ya my friend>

@ross: Me too, can't wait for the über-Trainer! And there I'm curious about the following:

Would it be possible for the trainer to limit the credits/continues somehow? Or is this something that can't be done because they are already unlimited by default?

I have a very practical reason to ask this: My 2 boys (7 + 9 years old) LOVE the game and it's hard to get them to stop playing without tears getting shed. Unfortunately, as a parent I somehow have to limit their gaming efforts (well, some other parent is involved in this decision and who would want to disagree with her). It would (probably) be easier if I could start the game for them having let's say only 5 (or 10 or whatever) credits to go on and once they use them up, the game tells them "GAME OVER". That way, it's the game telling them that, and not ME, I'm totally innocent on this then...

[Predseda]

This is the most original request I have read for a long time

[ross]

Originally Posted by mrupp

Would it be possible for the trainer to limit the credits/continues somehow? Or is this something that can't be done because they are already unlimited by default?

This made my day

Yes, continues are unlimited by default.
I've added the brutal 'force game over' key, but then you'd be the bad .

Technically it is possible because I have under control the lives variable and I could put a counter that calls the 'force game over' when a threshold is reached.
But it should be excluded from the trainer because it's the exact opposite
We'll see...

[KONEY]

Yes and no... I have both expansions but the front one returns errors and triggers glitches and gurus while the side one is not seen at all... need to figure out how to fix it

Originally Posted by TjLaZer

Do you have 512k of chip and some fast RAM?

Game does run pretty well on the 1000, Will be a treat to get this working. This game is really great! Much better than the original one!!!!

[demoniac]

Originally Posted by mrupp

Would it be possible for the trainer to limit the credits/continues somehow?

Heh, I think the most practical way to deal with this is to use Action Replay or WinUAE's debugger to make the cheat. Your request is so specialized that I doubt anyone else would use it.

Put the Amiga on a timer that shuts off after 30 minutes. That is sure way to stop their game play.

[ross]

Originally Posted by mrupp

Would it be possible for the trainer to limit the credits/continues somehow?

Well, 'somehow' I did it.
I've added a limited play mode, but it's a bit peculiar...

You can select a number of (shared) credits, but the first player that do a game-over and there is no more credits, the game instantly end even for the other player.

If this is acceptable then I make an option to activate it
(this will probably generate hatred between players in the same match, but it's somehow interesting ).

[Radertified]

Originally Posted by ross

(this will probably generate hatred between players in the same match, but it's somehow interesting ).

I swear, if you waste this last credit I'm going to kick your ass!

[coldacid]

Originally Posted by Radertified

I swear, if you waste this last credit I'm going to kick your ass!

For some reason I read that in Hank Hill's voice, but would he have played Bubble Bobble in the days before he sold propane and propane accessories?

[mrupp]

Originally Posted by ross

Well, 'somehow' I did it.
I've added a limited play mode, but it's a bit peculiar...

You can select a number of (shared) credits, but the first player that do a game-over and there is no more credits, the game instantly end even for the other player.

If this is acceptable then I make an option to activate it
(this will probably generate hatred between players in the same match, but it's somehow interesting ).

This sounds very promising, thank you so much for your efforts. I'd very much like to test that out.

Here's an idea:
If a player does a game over and there are no credits left, you disable his firebutton, so he cannot join in again. Once the other player uses up his lifes, there will automatically be a game over. Once the which-level-have-we-reached screen shows, firebuttons for both players have to be activated again (needed to reach the Game-Over-screen and restart playing).

Don't know it that's possible, for I don't know what mechanics of the game you exactly have control over and which not.

What do you think?

[TjLaZer]

The worlds last standing working NTSC Amiga 1000 playing Tiny Bobble! Thanks to Ross!

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[TjLaZer]

Tested Ross fixed version on the following systems and it works perfectly:

Amiga 1000 NTSC. 68000, 512k chip and 1MB fast.
Amiga 1000 NTSC. 68020, 64MB (ACA500/ACA1220)
Amiga 500 OCS NTSC 512k chip, 512k slowfast
Amiga 500 ECS NTSC 1MB Chip, 2MB Fast (A590) WB 1.3
Amiga 3000 NTSC. 68030/25, 2MB Chip/16MB Fast OS 2.1
Amiga 1200 PAL. Vampire 2, OS 3.9
Amiga 4000 NTSC. 68060 (3660) OS 3.9
Amiga 4000 NTSC. 68060 (GVP 4060) OS 3.9

[ross]

Thanks to TjLazer for testing all the versions I sent him.
Thanks also to Damien for the trainer test.

[demolition]

Just tried this one and it is very nicely done indeed. I don't know the arcade version but it surely looks much nicer than the original Amiga version.

It runs great on my current desktop Amiga although it isn't entirely standard:
Amiga 500+ PAL, 2MB chip, 68020 35MHz with 7.5MB fast (68020TK), ZZ9000 (used as scandoubler here), KS 3.1.4.1.

[padrino]

Great news, looking forward to this!

How about a little "cheat"? Like, type "goblue" to play as Bob in single player mode? =)

[danko]

Good job!

[Toni Wilen]

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Test results using ross's test executables.

DMACON writes in copper list:no difference.
Blitter nasty on: A1000-only glitches are gone.

I'd like to have some more test executables to confirm what is really going on with copper and blitter:
- 1xCopper blitter WAITs only. Both nasty on and nasty off.
- 3xCopper blitter WAITs. Both nasty on and nasty off.

Ross made 2 hacked test versions that only has single copper wait.
- nasty on: no glitches (A1000 and A500 tested)
- nasty off: glitches. Huge glitches on A1000. Original version running on A1000 like glitches on A500.

This confirms (mostly) that nasty off + copper wait is broken. A1000 is even more broken than A500.

Time to do some experiments..

[apex]

@pink^abyss
Absolut amazing!!! Just played it and it it is like it should always be.
Love it!!!

[Tigerskunk]

Originally Posted by TjLaZer

The worlds last standing working NTSC Amiga 1000 playing Tiny Bobble! Thanks to Ross!

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And with that original monitor. Amazing. I envy that.