AmigaOS 3.2 and beyond - Page 25

hUMUNGUs · 22 May 2020, 23:16

3.2 sounds really nice. Cant wait to get my hands on it. Well done AmigaOS team.

nar001 · 23 May 2020, 00:41

So I remember another version of an update for 3.x that was released but pulled, which was it again? I can't remember what the reason for pulling it was?

Bruce Abbott · 23 May 2020, 01:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by gulliver

AmigaOS 3.2 is absolutely fantastic. And you are all going to like it.

A bold claim. Hope there are no shell bugs.

vxm · 23 May 2020, 08:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by gulliver

@vxm

Added to the feature request list. It is being considered.

Thanks.

utri007 · 23 May 2020, 10:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by nar001

So I remember another version of an update for 3.x that was released but pulled, which was it again? I can't remember what the reason for pulling it was?

Such a thing didn't happen, but Cloanto did try prevent distribution.

For a mods, this is fine example why thread titles should be changed if they have false statement.

nar001 · 23 May 2020, 13:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by utri007

Such a thing didn't happen, but Cloanto did try prevent distribution.

For a mods, this is fine example why thread titles should be changed if they have false statement.

So it was this version that was pulled? Did they reach an agreement?

Minuous · 23 May 2020, 14:09

@nar001:

Nothing was pulled, it is still available for purchase.

No agreement has been reached, hence the court case.

Hercules · 24 May 2020, 00:13

I would like to see a GUI for diskdoctor and possibly a TCP/IP stack included as standard. The only problem with the later of course is lack of space as like WB 3.1.4 it uses actual floppy disks for installation.

lmimmfn · 24 May 2020, 00:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hercules

I would like to see a GUI for diskdoctor and possibly a TCP/IP stack included as standard. The only problem with the later of course is lack of space as like WB 3.1.4 it uses actual floppy disks for installation.

I don't know if it's possible within the timeframe but +1 on inclusion of TCP stack

Bruce Abbott · 24 May 2020, 07:00

I don't think a TCP/IP stack should be included, since one can easily be added if required. And definitely not if it's just a rehashed AmiTCP.

A GUI for diskdoctor also seems pointless (but hey, anyone is welcome to make one!). Other tools are available if you want something with a fancy GUI.

klx300r · 24 May 2020, 09:14

I hope Hyperion gives a slight discount to users that bought the real ROMS for 3.1.4 as they’ll basically be useless once 3.2 ones come out ...don’t get me wrong I’m sooo happy my favourite OS is being updated and never thought I’d have to buy 2 new OS ROMS within a year of each other

hUMUNGUs · 24 May 2020, 09:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruce Abbott

I don't think a TCP/IP stack should be included, since one can easily be added if required. And definitely not if it's just a rehashed AmiTCP.

A GUI for diskdoctor also seems pointless (but hey, anyone is welcome to make one!). Other tools are available if you want something with a fancy GUI.

The thing is Bruce, he didnt ask for your opinion. He asked the team. There´s a huge difference. Let the team answer. Thank you !

ma693541 · 24 May 2020, 10:52

I hope the icons will be glowicons as standard and that you don't have to copy them over from the Storage disk as in AmigaOS 3.1.4.

kamelito · 24 May 2020, 11:43

Future versions of the OS should IMO make it easier for developers to write programs. Tools and OS functions, Utility.library should be expanded to offer as many functions as needed so developers don’t have to reinvent the wheel. Adding all of the commons algorithms in there...

boemann · 24 May 2020, 12:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by kamelito

Future versions of the OS should IMO make it easier for developers to write programs. Tools and OS functions, Utility.library should be expanded to offer as many functions as needed so developers don’t have to reinvent the wheel. Adding all of the commons algorithms in there...

Unfortunately utility.library is needed in ROM so we can't just balloon it as we are very limited on ROM space.

PeterK · 24 May 2020, 12:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by kamelito

Tools and OS functions, Utility.library should be expanded to offer as many functions as needed so developers don’t have to reinvent the wheel. Adding all of the commons algorithms in there...

Nice idea ... , but then your programs won't run on older OS versions anymore

You can only create new libraries with these functions that can still be installed on older OS versions, too.

duga · 24 May 2020, 12:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by klx300r

I hope Hyperion gives a slight discount to users that bought the real ROMS for 3.1.4 as they’ll basically be useless once 3.2 ones come out ...don’t get me wrong I’m sooo happy my favourite OS is being updated and never thought I’d have to buy 2 new OS ROMS within a year of each other

3.2 will run with your 3.1.4 ROM, if you don't want to buy the 3.2 ROM.

kamelito · 24 May 2020, 12:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by boemann

Unfortunately utility.library is needed in ROM so we can't just balloon it as we are very limited on ROM space.

I guess you get the point, call it whatever you want and put it to disk or move utility.library to disk.
@PeterK, well it is up to the developer to used theses functions and why not buy the new OS if it is better? why stick to older 3.x?

Rotzloeffel · 24 May 2020, 16:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by ma693541

I hope the icons will be glowicons as standard and that you don't have to copy them over from the Storage disk as in AmigaOS 3.1.4.

It is your choise while Installing the OS which Iconset should be used

kamelito · 25 May 2020, 16:56

Maybe when the time has come to release an NDK, add informations about how to code in AmigaOS native (dev tools to use enforcer etc.) and cross. A guidance about which functions to use instead of old ones etc. Why not deprecate the old ones who have better replacement?

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22 May 2020, 23:16	#481
hUMUNGUs Registered User Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: .no Posts: 148	3.2 sounds really nice. Cant wait to get my hands on it. Well done AmigaOS team.

23 May 2020, 00:41	#482
nar001 Registered User Join Date: May 2020 Location: Lausanne Switzerland Posts: 14	So I remember another version of an update for 3.x that was released but pulled, which was it again? I can't remember what the reason for pulling it was?

23 May 2020, 14:09	#487
Minuous Coder/webmaster/gamer Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Canberra/Australia Posts: 2,642	@nar001: Nothing was pulled, it is still available for purchase. No agreement has been reached, hence the court case.

24 May 2020, 00:13	#488
Hercules Vodka monster. Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: UK Posts: 333	I would like to see a GUI for diskdoctor and possibly a TCP/IP stack included as standard. The only problem with the later of course is lack of space as like WB 3.1.4 it uses actual floppy disks for installation.

24 May 2020, 07:00	#490
Bruce Abbott Registered User Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Hastings, New Zealand Posts: 2,588	I don't think a TCP/IP stack should be included, since one can easily be added if required. And definitely not if it's just a rehashed AmiTCP. A GUI for diskdoctor also seems pointless (but hey, anyone is welcome to make one!). Other tools are available if you want something with a fancy GUI.

24 May 2020, 09:14	#491
klx300r Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,601	I hope Hyperion gives a slight discount to users that bought the real ROMS for 3.1.4 as they’ll basically be useless once 3.2 ones come out ...don’t get me wrong I’m sooo happy my favourite OS is being updated and never thought I’d have to buy 2 new OS ROMS within a year of each other

24 May 2020, 10:52	#493
ma693541 Computer Wizard Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Ramberg/Norway Posts: 928	I hope the icons will be glowicons as standard and that you don't have to copy them over from the Storage disk as in AmigaOS 3.1.4.

24 May 2020, 11:43	#494
kamelito Zone Friend Join Date: May 2006 Location: France Posts: 1,801	Future versions of the OS should IMO make it easier for developers to write programs. Tools and OS functions, Utility.library should be expanded to offer as many functions as needed so developers don’t have to reinvent the wheel. Adding all of the commons algorithms in there...

25 May 2020, 16:56	#500
kamelito Zone Friend Join Date: May 2006 Location: France Posts: 1,801	Maybe when the time has come to release an NDK, add informations about how to code in AmigaOS native (dev tools to use enforcer etc.) and cross. A guidance about which functions to use instead of old ones etc. Why not deprecate the old ones who have better replacement?

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