The ultimate cd32 Joystick...

th4t1guy · 14 June 2004, 05:25

Well, my cd32 joypad broke on me (no suprise there!), so I decided to take it apart to fix it. Then it struck me, why just fix a problem when it'll keep happening over and over again? So I decided to completely rebuild the cd32 pad into a nice arcade style joystick.

I bought a replacement joystick at a local spare parts store for about $12 (never liked gamepads anyways). It's manufactured by Happ. Right now, I have to order the push buttons and build a box, so this is a work in progress. I'll try to keep things updated here though.

The pictures are of the cable, the circuit board, and the joystick.

Amiga1992 · 14 June 2004, 06:11

Good luck with this.
I would like to make the same with a Sega 6 button pad or something! I mean, hacking a SEGA pad with a CD32 board or something.

Adeptus · 14 June 2004, 14:09

Sounds difficult, Akira... Different shape, not a lot of room.
You'd probably need to custom design a PCB that was the same shape/layout as the Sega, but the same circuit as the CD32...

Amiga1992 · 14 June 2004, 20:07

Hmmm not a bad idea, my mate..... How hard can that be?

Adeptus · 15 June 2004, 03:07

Don't know... if you're into that sort of thing, maybe not hard.

But definitely harder than just putting the old PCB in a new (big) box

which is what I'm planning to do... sacrifice a couple of USB pads, & probably build a couple CD32 controller circuits from AmiNet schematics, & put in this box:

Amiga1992 · 15 June 2004, 03:52

And how about making an USB controller adapter for Amiga? Someone was making one I think, or something.

Adeptus · 16 June 2004, 04:32

I was asking how hard this would be a while ago... I found (somewhere) a HID-compliant USB host chip, and was suggesting a hub-style box for inputs, with cables going out to Amiga joystick/mouse & keyboard ports.
I think it's beyond my abilities personally, but might look into it more someday... after everything else...

There are general-purpose USB cards for big-box Amigas, & I think an A1200 trapdoor one?

16 June 2004, 04:51

I think they are PCI/Zorro, to be used with for example, mediator boards.

Someone should start producing REAL, complete, compatible amigas for reasonable prices soon!

th4t1guy · 16 June 2004, 04:52

I think it would be much easier getting one of these working on the keyboard port than on the mouse port.

Amiga1992 · 16 June 2004, 05:20

There is a Clockport USB interface, but that was not my idea, since you would have to write drivers or other shit to support it in legacy games.

Somebody made a PSX adapter, I;d like to try that.

cv643d · 16 June 2004, 18:39

If you want a PSX connector cheap you can get the PSX to Megadrive/Genesis convertor from LikSang. Now this will not work directly with the Amiga. You will need to swap some lines on the cable I think. There was a thread about this on the forum at Amiga.org and the guy had a PSX joypad up and running after some tinkering with it.

Perhaps a little OFB but check it out anyway, http://www.gamesx.com/controldata/usbsatpad/

Adeptus · 17 June 2004, 02:19

ooh, impressive!

Unfortunately CD32 pads are more complicated (in number of components anyway) than USB (2 chips, several resistors & capacitors)

synchro · 17 June 2004, 02:26

I found this info somewhere........does anyof it save you even making a joypad ?????

[---- Controllers ----------------------------------------------------------]

Q: What's the Competition Pro joypad like?

A: It's completely compatible with the C= CD32 joypad.

Some good things said about it are that it's shaped like a Megadrive
joypad, the diagonals are easier to get to, it feels less delicate, it
has turbo and auto fires, and it has a slow motion button.

Some bad things said about it are that it's shaped like a Megadrive
joypad and the diagonals are more difficult to get to.

Obviously a bit subjective.

Q: Is it possible to plug other types of controller into the controller
port?

A: Yes, but you'll lose access to most CD32 joypad buttons.
------------------------------------------------------------------

Dunno if its any use at all but its interesting ????
I used a competition pro joystick on the Amiga......did they make a joypad or am i totally on the wrong track ????

Adeptus · 17 June 2004, 03:33

Yes, Competition Pro make a pad for CD32 (the only 3rd party one I know of - also known as Honey Bee).
They have them on www.liksang.com but were out of stock last time I checked.

The second Q just means you can plug a standard Amiga stick in, but you only get the one button function, not 7 like the CD32. You can also use some Sega pads (SMS only?) and get 2-3 buttons.

th4t1guy · 17 June 2004, 23:17

Does anyone have a picture of a logo for the CD32? I'm looking for something with a black background so I can make a sticker for the joystick. Something that says Amiga CD32.

I've found a few pictures with a google image search, but nothing beyond the simple logo (which I will go with if nothing else turns up). I was thinking of using the boot screen picture, but I don't know if I could get it sized right (the sticker will be roughly diamond shaped), plus the colors seem a bit off (mainly red). I was wondering if anyone on here had something that maybe they would like to contribute?

Adeptus · 18 June 2004, 02:37

I've only seen the simple "AMIGA CD³²" on black (like on the CD cases etc)

synchro · 18 June 2004, 03:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by th4t1guy

Does anyone have a picture of a logo for the CD32? I'm looking for something with a black background so I can make a sticker for the joystick. Something that says Amiga CD32.

I've found a few pictures with a google image search, but nothing beyond the simple logo (which I will go with if nothing else turns up). I was thinking of using the boot screen picture, but I don't know if I could get it sized right (the sticker will be roughly diamond shaped), plus the colors seem a bit off (mainly red). I was wondering if anyone on here had something that maybe they would like to contribute?

I slapped these together for ya.......Any good ?????

Mick_AKA · 18 June 2004, 12:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by cv643d

If you want a PSX connector cheap you can get the PSX to Megadrive/Genesis convertor from LikSang. Now this will not work directly with the Amiga. You will need to swap some lines on the cable I think. There was a thread about this on the forum at Amiga.org and the guy had a PSX joypad up and running after some tinkering with it.

Perhaps a little OFB but check it out anyway, http://www.gamesx.com/controldata/usbsatpad/

That is very cool, I wonder if I can convert the analogue saturn pad in the same way?

th4t1guy · 18 June 2004, 21:08

Quote:

I slapped these together for ya.......Any good ?????

Those are great!

Thanks!

I'll make the sticker and post of pic of what the joystick looks like once it's on there.

Amiga1992 · 19 June 2004, 13:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by th4t1guy

I'll make the sticker and post of pic of what the joystick looks like once it's on there.

Be careful, with such a lo res of these pics they probably end up looking like shit. Ask Synchro for higher quality files, I bet he has them since he made them?

14 June 2004, 05:25	#1
th4t1guy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kansas City, MO, USA Posts: 683	The ultimate cd32 Joystick... Well, my cd32 joypad broke on me (no suprise there!), so I decided to take it apart to fix it. Then it struck me, why just fix a problem when it'll keep happening over and over again? So I decided to completely rebuild the cd32 pad into a nice arcade style joystick. I bought a replacement joystick at a local spare parts store for about $12 (never liked gamepads anyways). It's manufactured by Happ. Right now, I have to order the push buttons and build a box, so this is a work in progress. I'll try to keep things updated here though. The pictures are of the cable, the circuit board, and the joystick. Attached Thumbnails

15 June 2004, 03:07	#5
Adeptus epun umop ap!sdn Join Date: May 2003 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 285	Don't know... if you're into that sort of thing, maybe not hard. But definitely harder than just putting the old PCB in a new (big) box which is what I'm planning to do... sacrifice a couple of USB pads, & probably build a couple CD32 controller circuits from AmiNet schematics, & put in this box: Last edited by Adeptus; 15 June 2004 at 03:36.

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14 June 2004, 06:11	#2
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,651	Good luck with this. I would like to make the same with a Sega 6 button pad or something! I mean, hacking a SEGA pad with a CD32 board or something.

14 June 2004, 14:09	#3
Adeptus epun umop ap!sdn Join Date: May 2003 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 285	Sounds difficult, Akira... Different shape, not a lot of room. You'd probably need to custom design a PCB that was the same shape/layout as the Sega, but the same circuit as the CD32...

14 June 2004, 20:07	#4
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,651	Hmmm not a bad idea, my mate..... How hard can that be?

15 June 2004, 03:52	#6
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,651	And how about making an USB controller adapter for Amiga? Someone was making one I think, or something.

16 June 2004, 04:32	#7
Adeptus epun umop ap!sdn Join Date: May 2003 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 285	I was asking how hard this would be a while ago... I found (somewhere) a HID-compliant USB host chip, and was suggesting a hub-style box for inputs, with cables going out to Amiga joystick/mouse & keyboard ports. I think it's beyond my abilities personally, but might look into it more someday... after everything else... There are general-purpose USB cards for big-box Amigas, & I think an A1200 trapdoor one?

16 June 2004, 04:51	#8
oldpx Posts: n/a	I think they are PCI/Zorro, to be used with for example, mediator boards. Someone should start producing REAL, complete, compatible amigas for reasonable prices soon!

16 June 2004, 04:52	#9
th4t1guy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kansas City, MO, USA Posts: 683	I think it would be much easier getting one of these working on the keyboard port than on the mouse port.

16 June 2004, 05:20	#10
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,651	There is a Clockport USB interface, but that was not my idea, since you would have to write drivers or other shit to support it in legacy games. Somebody made a PSX adapter, I;d like to try that.

16 June 2004, 18:39	#11
cv643d Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 762	If you want a PSX connector cheap you can get the PSX to Megadrive/Genesis convertor from LikSang. Now this will not work directly with the Amiga. You will need to swap some lines on the cable I think. There was a thread about this on the forum at Amiga.org and the guy had a PSX joypad up and running after some tinkering with it. Perhaps a little OFB but check it out anyway, http://www.gamesx.com/controldata/usbsatpad/

17 June 2004, 02:19	#12
Adeptus epun umop ap!sdn Join Date: May 2003 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 285	ooh, impressive! Unfortunately CD32 pads are more complicated (in number of components anyway) than USB (2 chips, several resistors & capacitors)

17 June 2004, 02:26	#13
synchro Sending You Back In Time Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: UK Age: 61 Posts: 986	I found this info somewhere........does anyof it save you even making a joypad ????? [---- Controllers ----------------------------------------------------------] Q: What's the Competition Pro joypad like? A: It's completely compatible with the C= CD32 joypad. Some good things said about it are that it's shaped like a Megadrive joypad, the diagonals are easier to get to, it feels less delicate, it has turbo and auto fires, and it has a slow motion button. Some bad things said about it are that it's shaped like a Megadrive joypad and the diagonals are more difficult to get to. Obviously a bit subjective. Q: Is it possible to plug other types of controller into the controller port? A: Yes, but you'll lose access to most CD32 joypad buttons. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Dunno if its any use at all but its interesting ???? I used a competition pro joystick on the Amiga......did they make a joypad or am i totally on the wrong track ????

17 June 2004, 03:33	#14
Adeptus epun umop ap!sdn Join Date: May 2003 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 285	Yes, Competition Pro make a pad for CD32 (the only 3rd party one I know of - also known as Honey Bee). They have them on www.liksang.com but were out of stock last time I checked. The second Q just means you can plug a standard Amiga stick in, but you only get the one button function, not 7 like the CD32. You can also use some Sega pads (SMS only?) and get 2-3 buttons.

17 June 2004, 23:17	#15
th4t1guy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kansas City, MO, USA Posts: 683	Does anyone have a picture of a logo for the CD32? I'm looking for something with a black background so I can make a sticker for the joystick. Something that says Amiga CD32. I've found a few pictures with a google image search, but nothing beyond the simple logo (which I will go with if nothing else turns up). I was thinking of using the boot screen picture, but I don't know if I could get it sized right (the sticker will be roughly diamond shaped), plus the colors seem a bit off (mainly red). I was wondering if anyone on here had something that maybe they would like to contribute?

18 June 2004, 02:37	#16
Adeptus epun umop ap!sdn Join Date: May 2003 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 285	I've only seen the simple "AMIGA CD³²" on black (like on the CD cases etc)

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