PC Task 4.4 - Page 3

Calabazam · 28 January 2023, 23:52

Thanks. I have managed to do the same on a 68060 but all i get is some strange noise out of my Korg X5DR, although i have the Korg and a SC55 on the midi out of my A4000. Both are playing at the same time from the Amiga side, but with PCTask the SC55 get no midi info and the Korg plays weird notes. I have also setup^SoftMPU inside PCTask and directed to COM1. Maybe the serial port is too slow with no Vampire.

ShK · 29 January 2023, 06:52

At least Vampire has an excellent chipmem and chipset speed with the Amiga (faster even than with the PiStorm). E.g., Plipbox in the parallel port gives ~136.01 kB/s network speed with the Vampire. On that video also core was excellent, Gold12 which could give a speed ratio up to x13. I still consider this to be a best of all cores in the whole Gold series (core is compiled by me back then).

Anywhos, with the GG2 Bus+ bridgeboard is possible to enable Amiga 2000 ISA-slots, that PC-Task 4.4 emulator can access them (IRQ interrupts are not supported). In this way it is possible to play audio e.g., with the Adlib OPL2 ISA Sound Card on PC-Task 4.4. Of course in this case fast access speed to the chipset and Zorro II slots is needed again.

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Calabazam · 29 January 2023, 09:02

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Originally Posted by ShK

At least Vampire has an excellent chipmem and chipset speed with the Amiga (faster even than with the PiStorm). E.g., Plipbox in the parallel port gives ~136.01 kB/s network speed with the Vampire. On that video also core was excellent, Gold12 which could give a speed ratio up to x13. I still consider this to be a best of all cores in the whole Gold series (core is compiled by me back then).

Anywhos, with the GG2 Bus+ bridgeboard is possible to enable Amiga 2000 ISA-slots, that PC-Task 4.4 emulator can access them (IRQ interrupts are not supported). In this way it is possible to play audio e.g., with the Adlib OPL2 ISA Sound Card on PC-Task 4.4. Of course in this case fast access speed to the chipset and Zorro II slots is needed again.

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No IRQ you mean no audio card possible apart from the Adlib wich just use a port adress? What other Isa card did work for you? No vga?
Indeed the Vampire (or the PiStorm maybe?) seems to take PCTask to another level because on a 68060/50 Norton sysinfo test the emulated cpu on par with a 386sx/25 like on an A2386 but video speed is very slow even with a z3 video card.
How do you install and use a gg2+ anyway? There are no option in PCTask menu about Isa cards. Is it not possible to interface with another bridgeboard?

ShK · 29 January 2023, 09:55

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Originally Posted by Calabazam

No IRQ you mean no audio card possible apart from the Adlib wich just use a port adress? What other Isa card did work for you? No vga? How do you install and use a gg2+ anyway? There are no option in PCTask menu about Isa cards. Is it not possible to interface with another bridgeboard?

PC-Task maps automatically all PC software calls to I/O locations through the GG2 Bus+ card. PC-Task does not support accesses to PC memory space registers through the GG2 Bus+, no DMA and interrupt support is limited to serial and parallel drivers, "ibmser.device" and "ibmprint.device". So, in practice no Sound Blaster, GFX-cards or any else cards where IRQ selection is needed. It's has been a while since this, but as I recall the Adlib, OPL3 sound card and some parallel port card worked for me. Only GoldenGate I or II bridgeboards are supported with the PC-Task.

Retro1234 · 23 February 2023, 08:59

Has anyone ever tried Windows 3.0/.1 in CGA black and White mode? This must give quite a speed boost.

Reynolds · 23 February 2023, 09:44

I have only win2.0 in a hardfile... that wasn't a walk in the park for sure due to it's speed. I did not give it a go on my acutal configs (060+gfxcard or anything more powerful.)
Would be intereting to know if a few stuff could be used within that emulation...

Retro1234 · 23 February 2023, 10:49

I remember running 3.11 and it was slow!!!
But I was probably running in VGA why not EGA or even better Black and White CGA this must speed things up.

zipper · 23 February 2023, 13:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro1234

I remember running 3.11 and it was slow!!!
But I was probably running in VGA why not EGA or even better Black and White CGA this must speed things up.

Well, Win95 was a snail, took 2.5 to 4.5 mins to boot and you could see the gfx been written on to the screen. And mostly crashed soon and had to be reinstalled. On DOS Tomb Raider demo ran 1 - 2 fps with a 060.

Retro1234 · 23 February 2023, 15:08

Hehe - Yeah the Tomb Raider is fun

Retro1234 · 23 February 2023, 15:09

Someone remind me how I transfer files to a PC-Task/PCX hardfile?

Or help me out I have Windows 3.0 Setup files in a folder on Windows.
I've put the Windows 3.0 Setup folder in the Zone (4mb lol) if anyone can help me out.

Seiya · 23 February 2023, 17:31

many years ago i installed and run Star Trek Next Generation: Final Unity on PC Task 4 on my old 68040@40 and aGA. Slow, but what emotions

Retro1234:
to transfer files there is an handler like that on ShapeShifter that mount PCTask or PCX hardfile like a partition. Me too not work more and me too not remember how to do because i'd like me too make other test

Retro1234 · 23 February 2023, 18:08

I've put WINDOWS 3.0 CGA 2 Colour for use on PC-TASK/PCX in the Zone and it's still seems slow as fuck - I was expecting a real speed boost - this is 2 colours!

Just run PC-TASK in LOWRES - DOS is buggered but Windows runs fine and there is a speed increase......... - maybe that didn't do anything - maybe it was the frame skip - does seem faster but not hugely

However if you have a Vampire or 060 maybe you can see a nice speed increase but don't hold your breath.

Must just be the way Windows is written.

Anyone remember how to get the *MOUSE* working in PC-TASK ???

Windows 3.1 apparently can be run in CGA by upgrading from 3.0.

If I get board again.
Whats left to try - SoftWindows under ShapeShifter - If someone has this already setup please! upload.
OS/2 - Will this be any faster.......

Seiya · 23 February 2023, 20:20

for mouse you must use pctmouse or copy mouse.com or mouse.exe

Retro1234 · 23 February 2023, 20:35

Can you see if you can get Mouse working with the hardfile in the Zone.

Seiya · 24 February 2023, 19:21

no, i can't because hardfile with win3 i cannot start because it searches winA20.386 in the root of C:\.
That file is not present in hardfile

Seiya · 24 February 2023, 19:25

this is my pc-task with ms-dos and mouse working

it is italian setup, but you can see that is mounted correctly.

Retro1234 · 24 February 2023, 21:01

I've reuploaded to the Zone with Mouse support you have to go into Windows Setup and change the mouse driver.

Actually, I do think it's faster than Windows 3.11 colour under PC-Task.

Remember to WIN /S to skip enhanced mode.

Pyromania · 24 February 2023, 22:50

Does it run Windows 11?

Retro1234 · 24 February 2023, 23:03

You wanta try

coldacid · 24 February 2023, 23:59

You'd probably want a 10THz 128-bit MC68000000 processor for that, Pyro!

23 February 2023, 15:09	#50
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	Someone remind me how I transfer files to a PC-Task/PCX hardfile? Or help me out I have Windows 3.0 Setup files in a folder on Windows. I've put the Windows 3.0 Setup folder in the Zone (4mb lol) if anyone can help me out. Last edited by Retro1234; 23 February 2023 at 15:54.

23 February 2023, 18:08	#52
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	I was bored I've put WINDOWS 3.0 CGA 2 Colour for use on PC-TASK/PCX in the Zone and it's still seems slow as fuck - I was expecting a real speed boost - this is 2 colours! Just run PC-TASK in LOWRES - DOS is buggered but Windows runs fine and there is a speed increase......... - maybe that didn't do anything - maybe it was the frame skip - does seem faster but not hugely However if you have a Vampire or 060 maybe you can see a nice speed increase but don't hold your breath. Must just be the way Windows is written. Anyone remember how to get the MOUSE working in PC-TASK ??? Windows 3.1 apparently can be run in CGA by upgrading from 3.0. If I get board again. Whats left to try - SoftWindows under ShapeShifter - If someone has this already setup please! upload. OS/2 - Will this be any faster....... Last edited by Retro1234; 23 February 2023 at 18:39.

24 February 2023, 21:01	#57
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	I've reuploaded to the Zone with Mouse support you have to go into Windows Setup and change the mouse driver. Actually, I do think it's faster than Windows 3.11 colour under PC-Task. Remember to WIN /S to skip enhanced mode. Last edited by Retro1234; 24 February 2023 at 22:41.

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28 January 2023, 23:52	#41
Calabazam Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: France Posts: 466	Thanks. I have managed to do the same on a 68060 but all i get is some strange noise out of my Korg X5DR, although i have the Korg and a SC55 on the midi out of my A4000. Both are playing at the same time from the Amiga side, but with PCTask the SC55 get no midi info and the Korg plays weird notes. I have also setup^SoftMPU inside PCTask and directed to COM1. Maybe the serial port is too slow with no Vampire.

29 January 2023, 06:52	#42
ShK Registered User Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Lahti / Finland Age: 52 Posts: 447	At least Vampire has an excellent chipmem and chipset speed with the Amiga (faster even than with the PiStorm). E.g., Plipbox in the parallel port gives ~136.01 kB/s network speed with the Vampire. On that video also core was excellent, Gold12 which could give a speed ratio up to x13. I still consider this to be a best of all cores in the whole Gold series (core is compiled by me back then). Anywhos, with the GG2 Bus+ bridgeboard is possible to enable Amiga 2000 ISA-slots, that PC-Task 4.4 emulator can access them (IRQ interrupts are not supported). In this way it is possible to play audio e.g., with the Adlib OPL2 ISA Sound Card on PC-Task 4.4. Of course in this case fast access speed to the chipset and Zorro II slots is needed again. [ Show youtube player ]

23 February 2023, 08:59	#45
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	Has anyone ever tried Windows 3.0/.1 in CGA black and White mode? This must give quite a speed boost.

23 February 2023, 09:44	#46
Reynolds Alien Breeder Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Szigetszentmiklos / Hungary Age: 46 Posts: 1,096	I have only win2.0 in a hardfile... that wasn't a walk in the park for sure due to it's speed. I did not give it a go on my acutal configs (060+gfxcard or anything more powerful.) Would be intereting to know if a few stuff could be used within that emulation...

23 February 2023, 10:49	#47
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	I remember running 3.11 and it was slow!!! But I was probably running in VGA why not EGA or even better Black and White CGA this must speed things up.

23 February 2023, 15:08	#49
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	Hehe - Yeah the Tomb Raider is fun

23 February 2023, 17:31	#51
Seiya Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Italy Posts: 2,342	many years ago i installed and run Star Trek Next Generation: Final Unity on PC Task 4 on my old 68040@40 and aGA. Slow, but what emotions Retro1234: to transfer files there is an handler like that on ShapeShifter that mount PCTask or PCX hardfile like a partition. Me too not work more and me too not remember how to do because i'd like me too make other test

23 February 2023, 20:20	#53
Seiya Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Italy Posts: 2,342	for mouse you must use pctmouse or copy mouse.com or mouse.exe

23 February 2023, 20:35	#54
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	Can you see if you can get Mouse working with the hardfile in the Zone.

24 February 2023, 19:21	#55
Seiya Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Italy Posts: 2,342	no, i can't because hardfile with win3 i cannot start because it searches winA20.386 in the root of C:\. That file is not present in hardfile

24 February 2023, 19:25	#56
Seiya Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Italy Posts: 2,342	this is my pc-task with ms-dos and mouse working it is italian setup, but you can see that is mounted correctly.

24 February 2023, 22:50	#58
Pyromania Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 3,375	Does it run Windows 11?

24 February 2023, 23:03	#59
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	You wanta try

24 February 2023, 23:59	#60
coldacid WinUAE 4000/40, V4SA Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: East of Oshawa Posts: 538	You'd probably want a 10THz 128-bit MC68000000 processor for that, Pyro!

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