hard drive problems a1200

leytond · 19 March 2009, 23:11

just fitted a 10 gig 2.5" hdd on my 1200, 4 x buferd ide thingy, ive installed os3.5, partitiond the drive to,
dh0: 2 gig
dh1: 2 gig
dh2: 2 gig
dh3: 2.5 gig
now i keep getting checksome errors when i try to access dh3: and the demos that i have installed on there,
the drive is ffs system,
what can i do to get it working right, ANYONE.

DH · 19 March 2009, 23:21

Hi there Leytond

Is this just a hobby or is this a mission

Not sure but wouldn't it be better for DH3 to be 2Gb too. There was an upper limit on a real amiga and I'm sure that was 2Gb, unless there has been some hardware added to allow 4Gb.

leytond · 19 March 2009, 23:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by DemonHellraiser

Hi there Leytond

Is this just a hobby or is this a mission

Not sure but wouldn't it be better for DH3 to be 2Gb too. There was an upper limit on a real amiga and I'm sure that was 2Gb, unless there has been some hardware added to allow 4Gb.

yep this is a mission, i will have a good amiga system, goind to try this sfs thing, and ill alter the dh3: to 2 gig, see what happens. lol, knownig my luck, (bang).

DH · 19 March 2009, 23:45

Just take your time, everything will be just fine

So, you're mission is to have an Amiga computer that has better graphics etc. than the miggy's that were used in the Babylon 5 series

You ever seen it

leytond · 20 March 2009, 00:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by DemonHellraiser

Just take your time, everything will be just fine

So, you're mission is to have an Amiga computer that has better graphics etc. than the miggy's that were used in the Babylon 5 series

You ever seen it

never seen it. and i cant get this sfs working on the drive , god knows what to do with all thos different files

Eclipse · 20 March 2009, 02:08

I'm in the learning phase with this too.
I got rounf to installing a new filesystem today as well. You also need a different scsi.device.

Claw22000 · 20 March 2009, 08:18

I've just done all this getting a 60Gig on my A1200 and its well worth it you don't even have to have more than 3 partitions. 3rd being MASSIVE!!!

Theres a Guide Thomas wrote helping me over a Amiga.org

http://www.amiga.org/modules/newbb/v...r=ASC&start=20

you will find it about 1/2 way down the page. If you don't have a PC/Mac to do the heavy lifting you can just do the sneaker network and bring it all over on disks or network.

Good luck let me know how it comes out. And will be glad to help since I kinda own the community for there help with my amiga restorations.

thomas · 20 March 2009, 08:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by leytond

now i keep getting checksome errors when i try to access dh3: and the demos that i have installed on there,

Do you first boot OS 3.5 and then run the demos or do you boot without startup-sequence and run the demos without the OS ?

The latter will not work. Big harddrives only work with the OS loaded.

Claw22000 · 20 March 2009, 08:49

@Thomas
After you have booted in and let loadmodule load scsi.device can't you just reboot and access the large drive in a lower mem mode? Seems to work when I have to edit info files with WB 3.1 disk because it won't let me do it with my ClassicWBV24

cosmicfrog · 20 March 2009, 10:05

I`m sure thomas or some1 else can clarify this but I think FFS has a partion limit of 4gig with the biggest file on it being 2gig

never seen early Babylon 5 series tut tut then you`ve never seen some truly amazing GFX created with the amiga

also why so many partions ? 2 is usualy enough then use folders/draws as each partion is going to use some memory for buffers

thomas · 20 March 2009, 10:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmicfrog

I`m sure thomas or some1 else can clarify this but I think FFS has a partion limit of 4gig with the biggest file on it being 2gig

Not that I knew of. I never had problems creating partitions as big as the HDD was.

Of course FFS V40 and below have a natural 4GB limit, just because of "the" 4GB limit. But later versions which support 64bit commands do not have a partition size limit.

2 GB file size limit is true. It is a dos.library limit and there are not many reasons for a file system to support bigger files if dos.library cannot handle them anyway.

Quote:

also why so many partions ? 2 is usualy enough then use folders/draws as each partion is going to use some memory for buffers

IMHO, one should firstly seperate applications and user data from system files and secondly keep space for a backup. And a second boot partition for testing things is handy, too. So you should have at least four partitions, two small ones and two big ones, IMHO.

thomas · 20 March 2009, 10:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Claw22000

@Thomas
After you have booted in and let loadmodule load scsi.device can't you just reboot and access the large drive in a lower mem mode?

Yes, you can.

But you cannot access the big HDD without scsi.device.

And if he gets checksum errors, there is something wrong. I just want to check if it is a software error or a user error.

leytond · 20 March 2009, 10:46

omg, right how do i get this sfs working ive downloaded the files but what do i do with them, theres lots of text files but i cant read them, theres no instructions where to put the files or what to do with them, surley there is a simple way to get the hard drive working correctly,

leytond · 20 March 2009, 10:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Claw22000

I've just done all this getting a 60Gig on my A1200 and its well worth it you don't even have to have more than 3 partitions. 3rd being MASSIVE!!!

Theres a Guide Thomas wrote helping me over a Amiga.org

http://www.amiga.org/modules/newbb/v...r=ASC&start=20

you will find it about 1/2 way down the page. If you don't have a PC/Mac to do the heavy lifting you can just do the sneaker network and bring it all over on disks or network.

Good luck let me know how it comes out. And will be glad to help since I kinda own the community for there help with my amiga restorations.

i am useing a real amiga not an emulator , the hard drive is installed inside my 1200 at the moment, (soon to be installed in the bin)

cosmicfrog · 20 March 2009, 11:18

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=20302

you must really learn how to look and search

leytond · 20 March 2009, 11:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmicfrog

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=20302

you must really learn how to look and search

that dont tell me anything about hard drives, or hor to get sfs working

leytond · 20 March 2009, 11:31

give s the location of the sfs download, but there aint nothing to tell ya what to do with it once you have it

cosmicfrog · 20 March 2009, 12:10

then you need glasses

hit · 20 March 2009, 12:53

i've not done that, but basicaly you just need to unpack the SFS.lha and copy "Smartfilesystem/AmigaOS3.x/L/SmartFilesystem" to L:
there is an updated version SFS_1.279_68k.lha which only updates "L:SmartFilesystem". copy the new one over the old.

found a wiki about sfs, instaling on real hardrive using winuae on a pc:
http://wiki.classicamiga.com/How_to_..._within_WinUAE

Edit: just ignore any winuae/pc things, just look at "Setting up the HDD" on that page. dont change tooltypes of hd-toolbox, default should work on real amiga.

hope that helps

Eclipse · 20 March 2009, 13:04

Hi again,
The guide Thomas did has worked very well for me except it asumes you are using Amiga Forever.
I had to extract all the files using an already installed ClassicWB hard file, then I could continue.
My main system was about 500mb then games was 3.3gig then the rest was taken as misc.

19 March 2009, 23:11	#1
leytond MY 1200 IS AWSOME Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: doncaster england Age: 55 Posts: 700	hard drive problems a1200 just fitted a 10 gig 2.5" hdd on my 1200, 4 x buferd ide thingy, ive installed os3.5, partitiond the drive to, dh0: 2 gig dh1: 2 gig dh2: 2 gig dh3: 2.5 gig now i keep getting checksome errors when i try to access dh3: and the demos that i have installed on there, the drive is ffs system, what can i do to get it working right, ANYONE.

20 March 2009, 12:53	#19
hit Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: planet earth Posts: 1,115	i've not done that, but basicaly you just need to unpack the SFS.lha and copy "Smartfilesystem/AmigaOS3.x/L/SmartFilesystem" to L: there is an updated version SFS_1.279_68k.lha which only updates "L:SmartFilesystem". copy the new one over the old. found a wiki about sfs, instaling on real hardrive using winuae on a pc: http://wiki.classicamiga.com/How_to_..._within_WinUAE Edit: just ignore any winuae/pc things, just look at "Setting up the HDD" on that page. dont change tooltypes of hd-toolbox, default should work on real amiga. hope that helps Last edited by hit; 20 March 2009 at 12:59.

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19 March 2009, 23:21	#2
DH Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Might as well be WORK :( Age: 57 Posts: 4,110	Hi there Leytond Is this just a hobby or is this a mission Not sure but wouldn't it be better for DH3 to be 2Gb too. There was an upper limit on a real amiga and I'm sure that was 2Gb, unless there has been some hardware added to allow 4Gb.

19 March 2009, 23:45	#4
DH Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Might as well be WORK :( Age: 57 Posts: 4,110	Just take your time, everything will be just fine So, you're mission is to have an Amiga computer that has better graphics etc. than the miggy's that were used in the Babylon 5 series You ever seen it

20 March 2009, 02:08	#6
Eclipse Turpentine Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kent, United Kingdom Posts: 744	I'm in the learning phase with this too. I got rounf to installing a new filesystem today as well. You also need a different scsi.device.

20 March 2009, 08:18	#7
Claw22000 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: St. Paul, MN/USA Age: 46 Posts: 222	I've just done all this getting a 60Gig on my A1200 and its well worth it you don't even have to have more than 3 partitions. 3rd being MASSIVE!!! Theres a Guide Thomas wrote helping me over a Amiga.org http://www.amiga.org/modules/newbb/v...r=ASC&start=20 you will find it about 1/2 way down the page. If you don't have a PC/Mac to do the heavy lifting you can just do the sneaker network and bring it all over on disks or network. Good luck let me know how it comes out. And will be glad to help since I kinda own the community for there help with my amiga restorations.

20 March 2009, 08:49	#9
Claw22000 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: St. Paul, MN/USA Age: 46 Posts: 222	@Thomas After you have booted in and let loadmodule load scsi.device can't you just reboot and access the large drive in a lower mem mode? Seems to work when I have to edit info files with WB 3.1 disk because it won't let me do it with my ClassicWBV24

20 March 2009, 10:05	#10
cosmicfrog The 1 who ribbits Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: leek, Staffs, UK Age: 56 Posts: 3,557	I`m sure thomas or some1 else can clarify this but I think FFS has a partion limit of 4gig with the biggest file on it being 2gig never seen early Babylon 5 series tut tut then you`ve never seen some truly amazing GFX created with the amiga also why so many partions ? 2 is usualy enough then use folders/draws as each partion is going to use some memory for buffers

20 March 2009, 10:46	#13
leytond MY 1200 IS AWSOME Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: doncaster england Age: 55 Posts: 700	omg, right how do i get this sfs working ive downloaded the files but what do i do with them, theres lots of text files but i cant read them, theres no instructions where to put the files or what to do with them, surley there is a simple way to get the hard drive working correctly,

20 March 2009, 11:18	#15
cosmicfrog The 1 who ribbits Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: leek, Staffs, UK Age: 56 Posts: 3,557	http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=20302 you must really learn how to look and search

20 March 2009, 11:31	#17
leytond MY 1200 IS AWSOME Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: doncaster england Age: 55 Posts: 700	give s the location of the sfs download, but there aint nothing to tell ya what to do with it once you have it

20 March 2009, 12:10	#18
cosmicfrog The 1 who ribbits Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: leek, Staffs, UK Age: 56 Posts: 3,557	then you need glasses

20 March 2009, 13:04	#20
Eclipse Turpentine Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kent, United Kingdom Posts: 744	Hi again, The guide Thomas did has worked very well for me except it asumes you are using Amiga Forever. I had to extract all the files using an already installed ClassicWB hard file, then I could continue. My main system was about 500mb then games was 3.3gig then the rest was taken as misc.

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