Indivision ECS & Amiga 600 Joystick trouble

amigoun · 11 June 2010, 22:47

I recently bought new Indivision ECS and A603 memory expansion for my Amiga 600.
Installation went ok, and when was all completed, I started to play games. To my surprise my joystick worked with a problem. When I push UP it goes UP-LEFT, other directions work fine. But I cannot make a UP direction.
After some testing I realized that it is caused by Indivision scandoubler, because when I disconnect scandoubler from the A603 expasion joystick works ok, when I give it back, problem is back.
Does anyone knows solution for this?

amigakit.com · 11 June 2010, 22:54

Yes, the solution is to ensure that the Indivision ECS pins are firmly plugged into the socket holes on the A603. This is a connection problem.

amigoun · 12 June 2010, 01:06

amigakit

thats where I've bought it. Thanks for suggestions,
unfortunatelly problem is probably not the connection, scandoubler fits perfectly, I checked it very carefully.
After having no success, I have tried scandoubler in my Amiga 500+, where it works fine, without any joystick problems.
Maybe A603 problem? I really would like to have it working in my A600, any other idea?

mfilos · 12 June 2010, 07:14

I suggest (if you have a multimeter) to make a continuity test on every pin starting from the lower part of A603 to the upper socket part of Indivision ECS.
There is a chance one (or more) of A603 socket's female pin is kinda larger than it should (it can happen) so the Indivision isn't making a firm connection at this Pin.

I had this issue with a random pin and when I found it, I fixed it and everything works just fine now

amigoun · 12 June 2010, 12:08

ok, thanks. My old multimetr can not do this, so I have to buy more advanced one later. If it may be a connection problem, this could probably help.

Hewitson · 12 June 2010, 12:23

Simply use a low resistance setting instead. If you get 0 ohms or close to it you know you've got continuity.

amigoun · 12 June 2010, 13:31

Now I discovered that the problem is the A603 itself. It does the problem even without scandoubler attached. With my old memory expansion everything works fine. I probably should contact Jens to ask him..

amigakit.com · 12 June 2010, 14:56

Where did you buy the A603?

amigoun · 12 June 2010, 15:23

I bought it last week at amigakit online shop with a few other things.

amigakit.com · 12 June 2010, 15:45

Check to see if there are any shorts when the A603 is attached. Also ensure that good contact is being made with the edge connector of the A600 motherboard.

amigoun · 12 June 2010, 15:57

the card looks ok, without any visible signs whick could case shorts. Also the contact with motherboard seems to be fine. I tested the card in both of my A600 computers with the same results.. I also tried to run without battery attached but this doesnt help either..

Paul_s · 12 June 2010, 15:58

I guess this is just part and parcel of running old technology. Also, you invalidated your commodore warranty by breaking the seal!

amigoun · 14 June 2010, 22:59

Unfortunatelly problem not resolved, I have to send the A603 back to amigakit for an exchange for a fully working one.

11 June 2010, 22:47	#1
amigoun Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Location: Czech Rep Posts: 599	Indivision ECS & Amiga 600 Joystick trouble I recently bought new Indivision ECS and A603 memory expansion for my Amiga 600. Installation went ok, and when was all completed, I started to play games. To my surprise my joystick worked with a problem. When I push UP it goes UP-LEFT, other directions work fine. But I cannot make a UP direction. After some testing I realized that it is caused by Indivision scandoubler, because when I disconnect scandoubler from the A603 expasion joystick works ok, when I give it back, problem is back. Does anyone knows solution for this?

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11 June 2010, 22:54	#2
amigakit.com Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: www.amigakit.com Posts: 2,051	Yes, the solution is to ensure that the Indivision ECS pins are firmly plugged into the socket holes on the A603. This is a connection problem.

12 June 2010, 01:06	#3
amigoun Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Location: Czech Rep Posts: 599	amigakit thats where I've bought it. Thanks for suggestions, unfortunatelly problem is probably not the connection, scandoubler fits perfectly, I checked it very carefully. After having no success, I have tried scandoubler in my Amiga 500+, where it works fine, without any joystick problems. Maybe A603 problem? I really would like to have it working in my A600, any other idea?

12 June 2010, 07:14	#4
mfilos Paranoid Amigoid Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Athens/Greece Age: 45 Posts: 1,978	I suggest (if you have a multimeter) to make a continuity test on every pin starting from the lower part of A603 to the upper socket part of Indivision ECS. There is a chance one (or more) of A603 socket's female pin is kinda larger than it should (it can happen) so the Indivision isn't making a firm connection at this Pin. I had this issue with a random pin and when I found it, I fixed it and everything works just fine now

12 June 2010, 12:08	#5
amigoun Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Location: Czech Rep Posts: 599	ok, thanks. My old multimetr can not do this, so I have to buy more advanced one later. If it may be a connection problem, this could probably help.

12 June 2010, 12:23	#6
Hewitson Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 41 Posts: 3,773	Simply use a low resistance setting instead. If you get 0 ohms or close to it you know you've got continuity.

12 June 2010, 13:31	#7
amigoun Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Location: Czech Rep Posts: 599	Now I discovered that the problem is the A603 itself. It does the problem even without scandoubler attached. With my old memory expansion everything works fine. I probably should contact Jens to ask him..

12 June 2010, 14:56	#8
amigakit.com Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: www.amigakit.com Posts: 2,051	Where did you buy the A603?

12 June 2010, 15:23	#9
amigoun Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Location: Czech Rep Posts: 599	I bought it last week at amigakit online shop with a few other things.

12 June 2010, 15:45	#10
amigakit.com Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: www.amigakit.com Posts: 2,051	Check to see if there are any shorts when the A603 is attached. Also ensure that good contact is being made with the edge connector of the A600 motherboard.

12 June 2010, 15:57	#11
amigoun Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Location: Czech Rep Posts: 599	the card looks ok, without any visible signs whick could case shorts. Also the contact with motherboard seems to be fine. I tested the card in both of my A600 computers with the same results.. I also tried to run without battery attached but this doesnt help either..

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12 June 2010, 15:58	#12
Paul_s Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Amigaville Age: 46 Posts: 3,338	I guess this is just part and parcel of running old technology. Also, you invalidated your commodore warranty by breaking the seal!

14 June 2010, 22:59	#13
amigoun Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Location: Czech Rep Posts: 599	Unfortunatelly problem not resolved, I have to send the A603 back to amigakit for an exchange for a fully working one.