DamienD - Page 2

meynaf · 08 March 2018, 11:39

h) And I can't thank you enough for this !

But, wtf, what happened ?
This looks like a moderator issuing a ban on himself !

Yesterday Aminet couldn't connect to database, EAB's server is too busy, and now Damien leaves ?

Ouch ! Nope, it's no nightmare.

You speak of some closed thread but i couldn't find it. Perhaps linking it here could at least give some explanation for those like me who didn't follow the story.

I could just say : oh no please don't leave, but others have already tried.
Just remember that if you leave, then the other guy has won.
It would be ok to beat it if EAB were a bad place -- but it's not. At least, not yet.

Oh, well, I don't know the story. And after all, you decide.
However I can still tell you something.
You have a heart and a mind. But if you listen to only one and ignore the other, you'll take bad decisions.

Simmo76 · 08 March 2018, 11:58

Well, this sucks.

I go away for a week and come back to EAB to find DamienD gone.
WTF?
Once again, some toxic leech has ruined things for everyone. Whoever you are, I hope you're very pleased with yourself...

Damien, thanks for your work in the EAB community, your help and friendship. Please have a good think before throwing it all in because of one idiot.

Tigerskunk · 08 March 2018, 12:03

Please don't go, Damien...

You are one of the good ones..

ross · 08 March 2018, 12:05

Damien, try to look from another perspective.
What you have donated to the community you must think you have done it exclusively for yourself.
Many of us do it just for the pleasure of doing it, to be part of it.
Appreciation and correctness (even if they should be obvious) are extras but not the focal point.
Keep doing what you like for yourself.

Take some time, get off a bit, but stay nearby.
As you can see from the many messages, we all want you to stay!
Do not let a couple of people without respect decide for you.

DamienD · 08 March 2018, 12:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by meynaf

You speak of some closed thread but i couldn't find it. Perhaps linking it here could at least give some explanation for those like me who didn't follow the story.

DamienD's WinUAE Collection

meynaf · 08 March 2018, 13:09

Ok so the story is you have made great things for the community and did not get much in return, so you dared to ask and BS occured. This has a sense of deja vu...

But you can catch the rat.
Just put some hidden serial number (aka watermark) in your next release.
If you don't know how, i can help.

DamienD · 08 March 2018, 13:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by meynaf

and did not get much in return

I don't want anything in return for myself; I don't care for or need money; I'm happy as I am with my circumstances / situation...

The reason I asked for a small donation was so I could give something back to the Amiga community and hopefully start something good:

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

Hmmm, this project has now been shared *free* for just over a week

In that time, I estimate that over 500 people now have a copy

...been thinking; going forward I will ask for £20 to be donated (except for EAB members who joined more than 6 month ago); peanuts really when you consider the years of work involved from Toni and myself for this collection

This means that I can then plough any money raised back into the Amiga community; as I usually do:

a) Support to RCK for hosting all "abime.net" resources like EAB / HOL / Amiga Magazine Rack / Amiga Games that weren't etc...
b) Support for Toni Wilen.
c) Support for all the numerous game creators / developers out there making new, cool stuff for our beloved computer.

Anyone that knows me can confirm that I am a man of my word and this will happen

Tsak · 08 March 2018, 14:40

This whole deal is sad

Damien, you've got our support (whatever you decide to do)!

ptyerman · 08 March 2018, 15:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD View Post
Hmmm, this project has now been shared *free* for just over a week

In that time, I estimate that over 500 people now have a copy

...been thinking; going forward I will ask for £20 to be donated (except for EAB members who joined more than 6 month ago); peanuts really when you consider the years of work involved from Toni and myself for this collection

This means that I can then plough any money raised back into the Amiga community; as I usually do:

a) Support to RCK for hosting all "abime.net" resources like EAB / HOL / Amiga Magazine Rack / Amiga Games that weren't etc...
b) Support for Toni Wilen.
c) Support for all the numerous game creators / developers out there making new, cool stuff for our beloved computer.

Anyone that knows me can confirm that I am a man of my word and this will happen

Good idea. Much better than falling foul to freeloading scum with no respect and quitting because of them!

Phantomz · 08 March 2018, 15:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by meynaf

But you can catch the rat.
Just put some hidden serial number (aka watermark) in your next release.
If you don't know how, i can help.

This is a great idea and needs to be done if DamienD decides to stay and continue to do his great work.

At the end of the day it's DamienD's choice, but if it was me, I wouldn't stop what I enjoy doing, I also wouldn't let everyone else lose out for the actions of one D*** Head.

DamienD · 08 March 2018, 16:01

Even if I decide to disappear from EAB; I'm not stopping what I enjoy doing. I will still continue to improve my collection constantly as I have done for the past 12 years

It's just that I may not share going forward; which sucks but...

I thought I could trust people on EAB but obviously it doesn't seem that way unfortunately; hence the leaking of my Update Pack #1 within a day of release

Phantomz · 08 March 2018, 16:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

Even if I decide to disappear from EAB; I'm not stopping what I enjoy doing. I will still continue to improve my collection constantly as I have done for the past 12 years

It's just that I may not share going forward; which sucks but...

I thought I could trust people on EAB but obviously it doesn't seem that way unfortunately; hence the leaking of my Update Pack #1 within a day of release

I'm happy to hear you will continue to do what you enjoy doing.

If you do decide to stay and carry on the great work, and release updates, make sure you add some sort of watermark and maybe only give it to people that have been member's for a certain amount of time ( whatever you think is suitable ).

Amiga1992 · 08 March 2018, 16:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

I thought I could trust people on EAB but obviously it doesn't seem that way unfortunately; hence the leaking of my Update Pack #1 within a day of release

But this is the part I don't get.
As per your closed thread, I thought you had narrowed it down to three people who are actually NOT real EAB members, just people who signed up to get it and fucked off with it.

That's not EAB, that's just opportunists.

DamienD · 08 March 2018, 17:03

Well two of them replied to my recent PMs; avukatka + dragon57 and I don't think it was one of them...

Unfortunately there's no way for me to tell exactly who did this.

All I know for sure is that it had to come from an EAB member: I sent the URL to 50 people who asked in that 24 hour period. Half an hour before it was leeked / torrent'd only 20 had actually read my PM so.

Amiga1992 · 08 March 2018, 17:06

Well tough, shitlist those 20 people if they made you angry and never give them anything again!

Turran · 08 March 2018, 17:32

Just read up in this. Sorry for .. well... in the end, our loss DamienD.

I'm sorry it happened to you, but I'm not surprised. The number of times my so called "online friends" fucked me over are endless since, like you, I am also a person who likes to share my hard work to the world.

It has not detracted me from doing it, but I never release stuff to a small group of friends anymore, hoping they keep it private since I know I will only end up disappointed in the end. The last time I had actually made slight changes to the .. release and could track who it was. That person was a RL friend even (not anymore).

The only comforting thing I can tell you is that you'll get over it. Hopefully you'll also be back.

Let me know if there's anything you need.

Viceroy · 08 March 2018, 18:13

Well that's good to hear you are going to continue your great work, even if you don't share it, at least we know it's going on in the background :-)

chip · 08 March 2018, 18:41

All this story is absurd

The words i agree much more are these ones from Galahad

"Shit happens sometimes, it's the life"

I would like to find right words to make DamienD change his idea, but first of all it's his decision, so i respect what he will do

And, especially, i see him much convinced to leave the forum

So, what i can say, like all other people who talked in this thread, is that i dislike it really much

emufan · 08 March 2018, 18:51

to make it even harder for DamienD to leave, and Tim Allen did not work in the first place,
I say it with one of my alltime favs: KC & The Sunshine Band

nobody · 08 March 2018, 18:55

Probably some guy you banned and gets back on you.
1. Since you asked a small donation you shouldn't give the pack away.
2. I wouldn't care about some guy that obviously wants to trigger emotional response from me, thus manipulate.

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08 March 2018, 11:39	#21
meynaf son of 68k Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lyon / France Age: 51 Posts: 5,323	h) And I can't thank you enough for this ! But, wtf, what happened ? This looks like a moderator issuing a ban on himself ! Yesterday Aminet couldn't connect to database, EAB's server is too busy, and now Damien leaves ? Ouch ! Nope, it's no nightmare. You speak of some closed thread but i couldn't find it. Perhaps linking it here could at least give some explanation for those like me who didn't follow the story. I could just say : oh no please don't leave, but others have already tried. Just remember that if you leave, then the other guy has won. It would be ok to beat it if EAB were a bad place -- but it's not. At least, not yet. Oh, well, I don't know the story. And after all, you decide. However I can still tell you something. You have a heart and a mind. But if you listen to only one and ignore the other, you'll take bad decisions.

08 March 2018, 11:58	#22
Simmo76 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Derby, UK Age: 47 Posts: 233	Well, this sucks. I go away for a week and come back to EAB to find DamienD gone. WTF? Once again, some toxic leech has ruined things for everyone. Whoever you are, I hope you're very pleased with yourself... Damien, thanks for your work in the EAB community, your help and friendship. Please have a good think before throwing it all in because of one idiot.

08 March 2018, 12:03	#23
Tigerskunk Inviyya Dude! Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Amiga Island Posts: 2,770	Please don't go, Damien... You are one of the good ones..

08 March 2018, 12:05	#24
ross Defendit numerus Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Crossing the Rubicon Age: 53 Posts: 4,468	Damien, try to look from another perspective. What you have donated to the community you must think you have done it exclusively for yourself. Many of us do it just for the pleasure of doing it, to be part of it. Appreciation and correctness (even if they should be obvious) are extras but not the focal point. Keep doing what you like for yourself. Take some time, get off a bit, but stay nearby. As you can see from the many messages, we all want you to stay! Do not let a couple of people without respect decide for you.

08 March 2018, 13:09	#26
meynaf son of 68k Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lyon / France Age: 51 Posts: 5,323	Ok so the story is you have made great things for the community and did not get much in return, so you dared to ask and BS occured. This has a sense of deja vu... But you can catch the rat. Just put some hidden serial number (aka watermark) in your next release. If you don't know how, i can help.

08 March 2018, 14:40	#28
Tsak Pixelglass/Reimagine Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Athens Posts: 1,031	This whole deal is sad Damien, you've got our support (whatever you decide to do)!

08 March 2018, 16:01	#31
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Even if I decide to disappear from EAB; I'm not stopping what I enjoy doing. I will still continue to improve my collection constantly as I have done for the past 12 years It's just that I may not share going forward; which sucks but... I thought I could trust people on EAB but obviously it doesn't seem that way unfortunately; hence the leaking of my Update Pack #1 within a day of release

08 March 2018, 17:03	#34
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Well two of them replied to my recent PMs; avukatka + dragon57 and I don't think it was one of them... Unfortunately there's no way for me to tell exactly who did this. All I know for sure is that it had to come from an EAB member: I sent the URL to 50 people who asked in that 24 hour period. Half an hour before it was leeked / torrent'd only 20 had actually read my PM so.

08 March 2018, 17:06	#35
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	Well tough, shitlist those 20 people if they made you angry and never give them anything again!

08 March 2018, 17:32	#36
Turran Moderator Join Date: May 2012 Location: Stockholm / Sweden Age: 49 Posts: 1,571	Just read up in this. Sorry for .. well... in the end, our loss DamienD. I'm sorry it happened to you, but I'm not surprised. The number of times my so called "online friends" fucked me over are endless since, like you, I am also a person who likes to share my hard work to the world. It has not detracted me from doing it, but I never release stuff to a small group of friends anymore, hoping they keep it private since I know I will only end up disappointed in the end. The last time I had actually made slight changes to the .. release and could track who it was. That person was a RL friend even (not anymore). The only comforting thing I can tell you is that you'll get over it. Hopefully you'll also be back. Let me know if there's anything you need.

08 March 2018, 18:13	#37
Viceroy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sunderland Posts: 946	Well that's good to hear you are going to continue your great work, even if you don't share it, at least we know it's going on in the background :-)

08 March 2018, 18:41	#38
chip Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Italy Age: 49 Posts: 2,942	All this story is absurd The words i agree much more are these ones from Galahad "Shit happens sometimes, it's the life" I would like to find right words to make DamienD change his idea, but first of all it's his decision, so i respect what he will do And, especially, i see him much convinced to leave the forum So, what i can say, like all other people who talked in this thread, is that i dislike it really much

08 March 2018, 18:51	#39
emufan Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: #DrainTheSwamp Posts: 4,545	to make it even harder for DamienD to leave, and Tim Allen did not work in the first place, I say it with one of my alltime favs: KC & The Sunshine Band

08 March 2018, 18:55	#40
nobody Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: GR Age: 46 Posts: 1,416	Probably some guy you banned and gets back on you. 1. Since you asked a small donation you shouldn't give the pack away. 2. I wouldn't care about some guy that obviously wants to trigger emotional response from me, thus manipulate.

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