What is the biggest Amiga game codewise?

mc68060 · 31 October 2016, 14:54

Which Amiga game is the biggest when just taking its program code into account without any data files?

My bet is Mr Nutz because it is a huge game with lots of different bosses, the Zelda-like stuff, the 3D tunnel levels, ... really lots of stuff in there. Or maybe Brian the Lion or Kid Chaos, but definitely a platformer in my eyes.

What do you think? Which Amiga game has the most raw code lines?

meynaf · 31 October 2016, 15:56

I think 1200 kb of code (850 game, 350 editor) is quite hard to beat

dlfrsilver · 31 October 2016, 16:14

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Originally Posted by meynaf

I think 1200 kb of code (850 game, 350 editor) is quite hard to beat

You mean as binary or source code ?

Ambermoon is almost as big if not bigger

meynaf · 31 October 2016, 17:26

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Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

You mean as binary or source code ?

Ambermoon is almost as big if not bigger

I mean binary. Source code is >5 megs

Some ambermoon files contain a lot of data, btw.

dlfrsilver · 31 October 2016, 23:51

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Originally Posted by meynaf

I mean binary. Source code is >5 megs

Some ambermoon files contain a lot of data, btw.

i was talking only about the executables.

It's sure some files use lots of data that are not code.

mc68060 · 01 November 2016, 15:06

@meynaf: Kudos for your efforts but I meant games from the "classic" period

@dlfrsilver: Only the estimated number of code lines, in 68000. Executable size doesn't count. Script code doesn't count either. Only the raw 68000 instructions.

Octopus66 · 01 November 2016, 15:24

Surely Frontier - Elite II?

DanScott · 02 November 2016, 22:29

Code size is irrelevant... any program could have 1 meg of nops, that would be hardly noticable when running

mc68060 · 02 November 2016, 22:48

Well for statistical reasons I think it would be quite interesting to know which game is the biggest concerning code size... of course code size is a purely statistical factor and doesn't say anything about quality...

daxb · 02 November 2016, 23:13

AB3DII TKG comes with about 810 kb.

rsn8887 · 02 November 2016, 23:49

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Originally Posted by DanScott

Code size is irrelevant... any program could have 1 meg of nops, that would be hardly noticable when running

I disagree, it would cause a huge delay of about 1 ms

roondar · 03 November 2016, 11:57

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Originally Posted by rsn8887

I disagree, it would cause a huge delay of about 1 ms

Depends on the CPU

On a 68000 running 500.000 nops (about 1 meg) would take closer to 0,3 seconds

meynaf · 03 November 2016, 12:17

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Originally Posted by rsn8887

I disagree, it would cause a huge delay of about 1 ms

The nops can be there without being executed at all, any other instruction block can do the same as well ; this is called dead code. And in some programs there can be quite a lot of it.

Anubis · 03 November 2016, 14:10

Samantha Strip Poker - DD size, IIRC

mc68060 · 03 November 2016, 14:49

@daxb: Good bet. I completely forgot that Alien Breed 3D II is really a massive, massive game.

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31 October 2016, 15:56	#2
meynaf son of 68k Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lyon / France Age: 51 Posts: 5,323	I think 1200 kb of code (850 game, 350 editor) is quite hard to beat

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mc68060 With MMU and FPU! Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: On your mainboard Posts: 270	@meynaf: Kudos for your efforts but I meant games from the "classic" period @dlfrsilver: Only the estimated number of code lines, in 68000. Executable size doesn't count. Script code doesn't count either. Only the raw 68000 instructions.

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Octopus66 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: London Posts: 335	Surely Frontier - Elite II?

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DanScott Lemon. / Core Design Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Tier 5 Posts: 1,212	Code size is irrelevant... any program could have 1 meg of nops, that would be hardly noticable when running

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mc68060 With MMU and FPU! Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: On your mainboard Posts: 270	Well for statistical reasons I think it would be quite interesting to know which game is the biggest concerning code size... of course code size is a purely statistical factor and doesn't say anything about quality...

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daxb Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 3,304	AB3DII TKG comes with about 810 kb.

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