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Old 14 August 2018, 20:56   #1
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Old 14 August 2018, 21:20   #2
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I'm sure there are "NOFASTMEM" programs around. The sfx glitches are probably blitterwait errors due to code loaded in fastmem & blitter routines not fixed.

whdload boot also fixes this
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Old 15 August 2018, 09:46   #3
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CD audio I just forgot about that... So basically how did you fix the bugs? by eating all fastmem at startup? It could be a nice touch to create CD images that still work with the unexpanded CD32.

Fun fact: I have a TF328 but my CD-ROM isn't working anymore. I guess that "fixes" it for me
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Mainly a combination of various Tude commands so far.

Not sure why you would need to have these new images that work on unexpanded CD32’s? Just use the original ISO! Though no reason why these wont work on all CD32’s too.

There’s more support for CD32 people fixing machines out there, sort out poor old machine out!

Would rather one CD covers all, as appossed to have two of each CD.
MicroCosm runs much smoother with FastRAM, however on real hardware it checks and crashes. I haven't tried my updated CD yet with TF328 (had it almost a year and just have not had the time to really sit down and play with it).
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Old 20 August 2018, 15:36   #5
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I've done a modified version of Flink - it has a modified startup-sequence that disables fast ram (via Tude maybe, can't remember) so it works on a TF328. I also lowered the volume of the cdda tracks, so it blends nicely with the sound effects. Game is quite enjoyable - only badly missing a save feature but there's no easy workaround for that.
I can upload the iso to the zone, or the eab ftp if there's interest. (And if I'm allowed to - not sure as I haven't done this yet)
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Old 22 August 2018, 14:37   #6
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Uploaded Flink to the Zone for a member here but it's there for everyone. http://eab.abime.net/zone/FlinkCD32WorksWithFastram.iso
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Can not disable FastRAM in TF328?
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Old 23 August 2018, 09:40   #8
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You can certainly disable it by software. I've written something like this, but it probably exists: it consists of allocating fast memory in big chunks and if it fails, divide by 2, repeat (yeah TUDE does that)
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I had A1200 and FastRAM and software would never replace hardware shutdown.
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Old 23 August 2018, 11:09   #10
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yeah rip the board from the machine (preferably when powered on)

(the blizzard 1260 also has a nice "press 2 on rainbow screen" feature to disable the board & mem)
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Guys, wasn't this thread about making the games work WITH the FastRAM, and ideally making use of it to improve the game, rather than disabling the FastRAM?
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Can not disable FastRAM in TF328?
You can disable the TF328 from the CD32 and take it back to stock 2mb by removing the Clockbuffer jumper or best to make a fly lead like below with a jumper or toggle switch, this was available from firmware ver 41

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thank you, that's great

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Guys, wasn't this thread about making the games work WITH the FastRAM, and ideally making use of it to improve the game, rather than disabling the FastRAM?
I think it's about making ISO's that work on fastram equipped cd32's so that you can just pop in a CD and play. E.g. Flink doesn't benefit from having fast ram and most 2D games don't. It does crash / has weird audio errors if fastram is present. Games that benefit from having fastram are coded accordingly so they likely don't have problems with fastram in the first place.
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You can disable the TF328 from the CD32 and take it back to stock 2mb by removing the Clockbuffer jumper or best to make a fly lead like below with a jumper or toggle switch, this was available from firmware ver 41

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Do we have access after such surgery to IDE? I mean only to turn off FastRAM and not the entire card.
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Do we have access after such surgery to IDE? I mean only to turn off FastRAM and not the entire card.
No it completely disables the TF328 from the CD32, so no IDE access
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Uploaded Flink to the Zone for a member here but it's there for everyone. http://eab.abime.net/zone/FlinkCD32WorksWithFastram.iso
link broken, do you still have this to share?

Good game this but the loud music is annoying!
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Or game makers locate all their code to chipmem to avoid fastmem issues, but then the game crawls ...
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