WinUAE suggestion

Critter · 03 September 2003, 15:24

Wasnt sure where to post this because its not a 'problem' but more like a request. It would be cool to have a menu in WinUAE (like the one in MAME) which allows you to play games from a list.

Sounds like alot of work, because of the extensive list of amiga games. So is there any possibility of implementing a 'scan directory' which could retrieve your games list? ie: select the 'main folder' which contains your games in 'sub folders'

Would be even cooler if the game you clicked on, booted from disk1 without having to insert it

killergorilla · 03 September 2003, 15:44

This would be a lot of work, they are so many variables involved.

And what games would you use? Adf? Ipf? Whdload? Some people prefer whdload versions, some prefer adf's. It'd mean a lot of configs for all the different types of games etc.

I'm not saying it's impossible (at least for adf's anyway), as long as a suitable winuae config could be used for each game out there, it'd just be a matter of each game relying on a suitable config and booting winuae.

I personally don't use adf games, and prefer to use whdload versions, but this would mean a different config for games, and a different startup-sequence for each game too.

But it would be great once it's done! I'd be willing to help! I'm installing all the CAPS images using whdload onto a hd partition which could come in handy (having 'perfect' installs from 'original' disks)

Oh well.

lilalurl · 03 September 2003, 16:17

Sounds like a nice idea.

Wouldn't it be possible to use TOSEC dats ? This way WinUAE would have a built-in dat interpreter and could compute which game are present or not.

Belgarath · 03 September 2003, 16:18

Although having it built into winuae would be nice, you can do exactly the same thing with an external frontend, either create a config for each game, edit the uae files to change use_gui to no then treat the configs as the roms and the parameter as -f
or if you are using a frontend that can edit emulator ini files you can tell it to to use a basic config, and then insert the name of the floppy in the floppy0= line.

the frontend i use is called 1-up and although it's a bit buggy and hasn't been updated in ages it is pretty powerful and and can do all of the above, get it from http://1-up.retrogames.com/

killergorilla · 03 September 2003, 16:30

Looks interesting Belg, cheers for the link.

Shame you can't use it from 'within' winuae or on a real amiga

Fjrb · 03 September 2003, 23:56

Quote:

Originally posted by Critter
Wasnt sure where to post this because its not a 'problem' but more like a request. It would be cool to have a menu in WinUAE (like the one in MAME) which allows you to play games from a list.

Sounds like alot of work, because of the extensive list of amiga games. So is there any possibility of implementing a 'scan directory' which could retrieve your games list? ie: select the 'main folder' which contains your games in 'sub folders'

Would be even cooler if the game you clicked on, booted from disk1 without having to insert it

It would be great.

The feature is great on it's own, but it'd add the possibility to have per game configs and special config to specially problematic games.

Scanning directories would be the most obvious way to do it. Just like Mame32.

Djay · 04 September 2003, 00:07

you could of course, get WinUAE to pre-scan a folder, you must have 2 files something like...

turrican.adf
turrican.gif

or

defender of the crown - disk 1.adf
defender of the crown - disk 2.adf
defender of the crown - disk 1.gif

then winuae would allow you to browse your PC HD for loading games etc.. (as normal) or allow you to use your pre-scanned folder menu (probably for your favourites games etc... and winuae would have a little pic of the box or whatever you decide the .gif should be....

.... i hope that makes sense!!!

if you wanna use a custom config for turrican.adf, winuae looks for turrican.UAE if its not found then it uses a default config you have previously saved (use by default option would need to be included)

Djay · 04 September 2003, 00:13

Quote:

the frontend i use is called 1-up and although it's a bit buggy and hasn't been updated in ages it is pretty powerful and and can do all of the above, get it from http://1-up.retrogames.com/

man, that looks COOL, i'll give it a go

Critter · 04 September 2003, 09:39

Hey thanks for the link Belgarath..

Hope it works well

Big-Byte · 04 September 2003, 10:24

If you do a search on here I think Amigaboy wrote a nice front end for WinUAE a short (ie in the last six months) while ago.

Belgarath · 04 September 2003, 12:01

1-up really works a lot better if you take the time to make a seperate config for each game, otherwise you will either end up with a ton of disk disk 3 disk 4 etc listed as seperate games, or if all the adf's for a game are in 1 zip it will ask which adf in the zip is the first disk and you will have to go through each one and set it.

but if you take the time to do it properly it looks pretty good.
heres a quick example i knocked up.

killergorilla · 04 September 2003, 12:04

Just a quick question...

With that 1-up menu thingy, how can you load games like Alien Breed (The original) which require DF0 to be used for both disks?

Belgarath · 04 September 2003, 12:31

it's only possible to use it to insert 1 disk in df0: i'm afraid, having winuae's gui disabled in the config doesn't mean you can't bring it up by pressing f12 like normal to change disks.

killergorilla · 04 September 2003, 12:34

Oh ok

that makes it a little less appealing

All that effort of pressing the key AND selecting ANOTHER disk! :eek

Fjrb · 04 September 2003, 20:31

Quote:

Originally posted by Belgarath
it's only possible to use it to insert 1 disk in df0: i'm afraid, having winuae's gui disabled in the config doesn't mean you can't bring it up by pressing f12 like normal to change disks.

How about the END+Fkey combination to insert disks via windows open file browser during emulation?

Can't remember the exact key combination, because i never use it, but there is one.

Maybe a frontend is the best solution, and you're already going in the right direction.

killergorilla · 05 September 2003, 02:33

I really don't know if people are interested but I'm creating a partition or hdf (or whatever format you want it in) of whdload installs of the CAPS images, which I will be running via a front-end (maybe with different versions of whdload depending on the game) from within winuae or a real miggy, so feel free to leech from my ftp once I announce it somewhere.

03 September 2003, 15:24	#1
Critter Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Nth^Dimension Posts: 188	WinUAE suggestion Wasnt sure where to post this because its not a 'problem' but more like a request. It would be cool to have a menu in WinUAE (like the one in MAME) which allows you to play games from a list. Sounds like alot of work, because of the extensive list of amiga games. So is there any possibility of implementing a 'scan directory' which could retrieve your games list? ie: select the 'main folder' which contains your games in 'sub folders' Would be even cooler if the game you clicked on, booted from disk1 without having to insert it

04 September 2003, 12:01	#11
Belgarath HOL Team Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Manchester Posts: 2,500	1-up really works a lot better if you take the time to make a seperate config for each game, otherwise you will either end up with a ton of disk disk 3 disk 4 etc listed as seperate games, or if all the adf's for a game are in 1 zip it will ask which adf in the zip is the first disk and you will have to go through each one and set it. but if you take the time to do it properly it looks pretty good. heres a quick example i knocked up. Attached Thumbnails

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03 September 2003, 15:44	#2
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 41 Posts: 7,957	This would be a lot of work, they are so many variables involved. And what games would you use? Adf? Ipf? Whdload? Some people prefer whdload versions, some prefer adf's. It'd mean a lot of configs for all the different types of games etc. I'm not saying it's impossible (at least for adf's anyway), as long as a suitable winuae config could be used for each game out there, it'd just be a matter of each game relying on a suitable config and booting winuae. I personally don't use adf games, and prefer to use whdload versions, but this would mean a different config for games, and a different startup-sequence for each game too. But it would be great once it's done! I'd be willing to help! I'm installing all the CAPS images using whdload onto a hd partition which could come in handy (having 'perfect' installs from 'original' disks) Oh well.

03 September 2003, 16:17	#3
lilalurl Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: France Posts: 3,289	Sounds like a nice idea. Wouldn't it be possible to use TOSEC dats ? This way WinUAE would have a built-in dat interpreter and could compute which game are present or not.

03 September 2003, 16:18	#4
Belgarath HOL Team Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Manchester Posts: 2,500	Although having it built into winuae would be nice, you can do exactly the same thing with an external frontend, either create a config for each game, edit the uae files to change use_gui to no then treat the configs as the roms and the parameter as -f or if you are using a frontend that can edit emulator ini files you can tell it to to use a basic config, and then insert the name of the floppy in the floppy0= line. the frontend i use is called 1-up and although it's a bit buggy and hasn't been updated in ages it is pretty powerful and and can do all of the above, get it from http://1-up.retrogames.com/

03 September 2003, 16:30	#5
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 41 Posts: 7,957	Looks interesting Belg, cheers for the link. Shame you can't use it from 'within' winuae or on a real amiga

04 September 2003, 00:07	#7
Djay 95th User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Brighton/UK Age: 47 Posts: 3,120	you could of course, get WinUAE to pre-scan a folder, you must have 2 files something like... turrican.adf turrican.gif or defender of the crown - disk 1.adf defender of the crown - disk 2.adf defender of the crown - disk 1.gif then winuae would allow you to browse your PC HD for loading games etc.. (as normal) or allow you to use your pre-scanned folder menu (probably for your favourites games etc... and winuae would have a little pic of the box or whatever you decide the .gif should be.... .... i hope that makes sense!!! if you wanna use a custom config for turrican.adf, winuae looks for turrican.UAE if its not found then it uses a default config you have previously saved (use by default option would need to be included)

04 September 2003, 09:39	#9
Critter Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Nth^Dimension Posts: 188	Hey thanks for the link Belgarath.. Hope it works well

04 September 2003, 10:24	#10
Big-Byte Long time member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: UK Posts: 754	If you do a search on here I think Amigaboy wrote a nice front end for WinUAE a short (ie in the last six months) while ago.

04 September 2003, 12:04	#12
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 41 Posts: 7,957	Just a quick question... With that 1-up menu thingy, how can you load games like Alien Breed (The original) which require DF0 to be used for both disks?

04 September 2003, 12:31	#13
Belgarath HOL Team Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Manchester Posts: 2,500	it's only possible to use it to insert 1 disk in df0: i'm afraid, having winuae's gui disabled in the config doesn't mean you can't bring it up by pressing f12 like normal to change disks.

04 September 2003, 12:34	#14
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 41 Posts: 7,957	Oh ok that makes it a little less appealing All that effort of pressing the key AND selecting ANOTHER disk! :eek

05 September 2003, 02:33	#16
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 41 Posts: 7,957	I really don't know if people are interested but I'm creating a partition or hdf (or whatever format you want it in) of whdload installs of the CAPS images, which I will be running via a front-end (maybe with different versions of whdload depending on the game) from within winuae or a real miggy, so feel free to leech from my ftp once I announce it somewhere.

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