American Laser Games (Mad Dog McCree and others)

[Amigajay]

Originally Posted by Retro1234

I dont know if CDTV could of handled it? would of made a lot of difference these games in the catalogue.

Ive not had a chance to try these can the screen be dragged or Amiga Key and M key? just curious - serial port redirected to a text file or something.

Still think these games are possible like I say CDXL Screen overlayed with Another screen at the bottom with the score etc. Cough any ideas cough earok.....

Of course, both the CDTV and CD32 could have handled it, after all the arcade machine was an A500 with a laserdisc player, just replace the video source and its still the same, heck even the Mega-CD got lots of ports with the same 150k/sec drive as the CDTV, cinepac vs cdxl.

[Belgarath]

I do have the DVD player version of Mad Dog McCree if that's of any help.

[Retro1234]

Originally Posted by Retro1234

Also there was an old old Sega Arcade machine game like this might have been VHS I mean really old anyone can remember the name????

Sorry it was nintendo check it out Wild Gunman 1974
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[Toni Wilen]

Originally Posted by Amigajay

Of course, both the CDTV and CD32 could have handled it, after all the arcade machine was an A500 with a laserdisc player, just replace the video source and its still the same, heck even the Mega-CD got lots of ports with the same 150k/sec drive as the CDTV, cinepac vs cdxl.

There is no way CDTV could do it. At least without postage stamp size video window.

Originally Posted by Amigajay

Wont load for me, the extended rom, you say use the 256k one, but in the zip file in the zone the biggest one is 128k?

ROMs must be ROM scanner detected and appear in drop down. They won't work directly.

[Amigajay]

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

There is no way CDTV could do it. At least without postage stamp size video window.

I didn't say the video size would be big! technically it could do it.

[emufan]

Originally Posted by Belgarath

I do have the DVD player version of Mad Dog McCree if that's of any help.

is there a way to just play the "raw video", so you may capture it somehow or record it with a smartphone?
somehow they did so with the Gallagher's Gallery video:
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@earok: i changed a bit the guide (extract alg.zip - ROM scan) just update the first postting

[AnnaWu]

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

http://www.winuae.net/files/b/winuae.7z (unsupported as usual!) now detects all ALG roms and also includes very basic LD player simulation.

- ROM selection is under extended ROMs.
- Some games will sort of start now.
- Game's configuration menu can be entered with right mouse button
- I didn't bother with trying to understand how light gun is connected or how trigger works.
- Most (all?) games have very long boot delay. (10s+)
- If game reboots soon after init messages: most likely reason is unsupported LD command. (I only tested few randomly chosen games)

(LD command set from: http://www.dragons-lair-project.com/...ommand_ldp.asp. MAME source was useless.)

Wow, I have to check
My old request: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=74870

Maybe better to move the thread to "support.WinUAE" forum?

[Toni Wilen]

Originally Posted by Amigajay

I didn't say the video size would be big! technically it could do it.

"Technically" every device with some kind of CPU and video output and CD interface can do it

[Amigajay]

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

"Technically" every device with some kind of CPU and video output and CD interface can do it

Well exactly.... and as nice as this is working on winuae, i would like to see it running on real Amiga hardware, is this possible what with the extended roms being used, can they be patched in software?

[Retro1234]

Didnt the Insight discs have some ok video clips and worked on CDTV.

The closest we got to Mad Dog was Town With No Name

but id be intrested to see what the CDTV could do.

How many fps was Mad Dog on Mega CD?

O and there was Sherlock Holmes - Consulting Detective on the CDTV

[emufan]

Originally Posted by AnnaWu

My old request: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=74870

*impossible* *serious?* *not interesting enough*
and now 2 yrs later it's done

#1) for instruction follow my little guide.

[Retro1234]

Yes thanks to Toni again

[emufan]

Originally Posted by emufan

#3) how do they do the timing? are there some hidden frames or is it the filelength?
i thought we could just use any video file, but this does not work, why not?

you have to convert the video file to ntsc, you can do so with ffmpeg:
23.976fps:
ffmpeg -i video-pal.mp4 -r ntsc-film video-ntsc.avi
ffmpeg -i video-pal.mp4 -filter:a "atempo=0.959040959040959" -r ntsc-film video-ntsc.avi
29.97fps:
ffmpeg -i video-pal.mp4 -r ntsc video-ntsc.avi
ffmpeg -i video-pal.mp4 -filter:a "atempo=0.959040959040959" -r ntsc video-ntsc.avi
--> not sure about the audio filter option (lists many errors), but the result you can now use with any ALG game

#2) if you get the blue screen (aka problem with videofile) with a valid video file, just try to switch the genlock mode
to "Video file" and then back to "American Laser Games" - i think there is some instability.

[AnnaWu]

Thanks for the great help, emufan.

[waldiamiga]

Thanks emufan for help and hint.

[emufan]

Originally Posted by AnnaWu

Thanks for the great help, emufan.

Originally Posted by waldiamiga

thanks emufan for help and hint.

np, good it is working for u too

[prowler]

Originally Posted by SquawkBox

You may use Isobuster or maybe UltraISO to dump the game, or at least extract the files to your HD (both are shareware).

Thanks for your suggestions. Both appear to be compatible with CDi media. I downloaded trial versions of both last night with the intention of trying to dump the disc today, but events seem to have overtaken me in the meantime:

Originally Posted by earok

Ripped the CD-I footage of Mad Dog McCree, it looks like a no-go. Order appears to be wrong so it's unplayable. If anyone wants the footage anyway I can upload to Mega.

Edit: It also seems to have CD-I specific credits in the video, suggesting that they've at least inserted footage.. and FFMPEG threw all sorts of errors converting it, but also in VLC it seems to be very unstable near the end of the video. I'm getting the feeling trying to rip from home conversions will be a waste of time.

[SquawkBox]

Anyway, you couldn't have done it by simply using the trial version,
if such was your idea. A CD ripping tool is probably featured for free on ubuntu platforms and similar, but all we have amongst Windows users for that purpose is crippled "demo" software.

[earok]

If anyone else wanted to try CD-I, there's a file with the extension "RTF" in the CD-I version (not rich text format..!) which contains graphics and video, at least some of which can be converted with FFMPEG. Use ISOBuster to get the file from the CD-I disc image, even the trial version works.

Regarding 3DO, files can be ripped from the image using the "4DO" emulator, but there's so many of them it would be a painful process stitching them all together.

[Tomislav]

If your mouse don't work in "Input" configuration select your mouse and check "Device Enable" (upper right check box). That worked for me.