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Probably because of post #38 in thread below?. Sad if that is the case. It was an excellent tool for troubleshooting.
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=99872&page=2 |
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The site is now working again.
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Would think it is a good time to donate a bit there
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The site probably generated more traffic, because of my converted gerber files I told Scrat that people would still need his site as a reference
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Just did a donation @Scrat I assume, thanks for your work
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Oh I always believed this was done with Scrats approvements. but that wasn't so..
oh. you should have checked that first.. :-( now it seems we will not have that great tool anymore. this is a very sad moment. |
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You simply do not just rip sites without permission. This is indeed a very sad moment
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That is pretty sad that you did that, the guy has put a lot of work putting all that information up on the site for all of us to use and now he is no longer supporting his site.
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To all the people that posted in the last recent days, do you realise that you are responding to something from 3 months ago that is no longer relevant?
While I personally disagree with the cloning and mass-manufacture of original Amiga motherboards that these files could encourage (say goodbye to spare parts and say hello to harvesting and destruction of parts from working machines) - AmigaPCB.org is working fine. I see no evidence of it now being unsupported. In fact the maintainer just updated it in July to warn people that the A600 motherboard is from pre-beta data and should be used with caution! Does anyone even bother to fact check before they post, or has excessive use of Facebook caused you to lose touch with reality? Last edited by rvctech; 02 August 2020 at 10:37. |
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the author told vert clear in "Commodore Amiga" group on facebook that it is now "as is" and if it crashes. so be it. it is dead and never more maintained due to the "gerberfiles" made.. (that none is btw working)
so factchecking is very much done.. also checked with him directly!. it is a dead-end so far unless we can make he change his mind. |
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I can tell that during my ReAmiga projects. I had discussion with him and he have been more than helpful.. so that's why I always was thinking this was done with his good permission.. but this wasn't the case sadly.
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Hi Chucky,
I don't use Facebook , thanks for posting it here and providing some context. This is a big change in his position, if one goes to page 1 of this same thread, he wrote "No worries. I expected that someone would do this eventually..." Strange that he is now upset. These Gerber files can never replace the versatility of a website like AmigaPCB.org, and he never owned the manufacturing data which was leaked from, and created by Commodore. |
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Well we do not know if there is something outside this thread that have been discussed and not held etc.
the data he had might be leaked from commodore. but it was not "just to use" anyway. there is a lot of work involved creating netlists etc. and the gerbers produced. I did a check of them last night. all i can say that none of them will even work. actually it can be some quite "interesting" shorts.. |
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I feel 100% certain that the data was directly leaked from Commodore, I say this because I was also able to independently convert the plot data on AmigaPCB.org to a Gerber too (I never released it though, out of respect, and because I do not want people to make these boards). I could see from my analysis that the data on AmigaPCB.org was a direct translation of photo plot data (probably the original Commodore Gerbers). In fact AmigaPCB.org uses SVG which has much similarity to Gerber. It is true that these Gerbers had some "errors in translation" . Also some of them are for pre-production boards that Commodore never released (like the A600 2A). Those pre-production boards do not even work. |
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@Chucky
Can you give me the direct URL to the sh!t that hit the fan on Faecesbook (pun intended )? Thanks in advance. I was always open about how I did it, but I could have kept it a secret and not give the Gerber files away, but my urge for knowledge and (even more important) sharing that knowledge with other people was always my motivation. Honestly, I don't understand why Scrat is so secretive about the origin of the orginal Commodore data and (like rvctech wrote before) so possessive about it. The code of the PCB explorer was always wide open to the public if you know how to use the Chrome Developer Tools. All I did was, save the HTML of the individual layers, change stylesheet.php to stylesheet.css (thát was the protection, rvctech ), print to PDF, import PDF into FAB3000 and finally export to Gerber. Thanks to rvctech, now I know you can do it much faster by importing the SVG data directly into Altium Designer..lol..Knowledge is king, man! |
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CD32Freak,
You can't load SVG directly into Altium (I did not say that you could). But you can convert the SVG data to an intermediary format and then load it into Altium. It still requires manual effort, and it does not result in any netlists or anything like that of course. It's only graphical photo plots of layers (which can then be exported to Gerber). |
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Just a bump. I'm looking for a base to try and layout an ITX 1200/4000 in gaKiCad.
I'm also just trying to collect Gerber files for all Amigas to future proof my personal archive. |
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