Second Samurai AGA: controls useless

Amiga1992 · 22 January 2016, 18:01

I cannot play this game, it has had this error since forever.
I get to the Options screen but then the controls don't work. I cannot press START ever. It's like the directions go crazy and are always pushing UP.

Belgarath · 22 January 2016, 18:38

The comment I put on GB Amiga for this was

Important: If playing a 1 player game, disable the mouse

Try it and see how you get on.

Amiga1992 · 22 January 2016, 20:54

Oh is that what it is? Kinda lame.
Is the original also that way? I feel like this could be fixed by the install. ANy takers?

[edit]I just tested it and it didn't work. Disabled the mouse in WinUAE, same shit. Uncontrollable up/down direction and every time I press fire it opens the OPTIONS MENU from which I cannot exit.

Retro-Nerd · 22 January 2016, 20:56

I have this problem on my real Amiga 1200 too. Tried everything. This patch needs an update badly.

Amiga1992 · 22 January 2016, 20:58

I'm glad to see it isn't just me, this install is really old and nobody has fixed it. I can't even find it in the official WHDLoad page so no idea how to report a problem.

Hopefully someone here can take the gauntlet and make it right.

Retro-Nerd · 22 January 2016, 21:02

http://whdload.de/games/SecondSamurai.html

or on Mantis.

Amiga1992 · 22 January 2016, 21:10

Oh I see, that is for both AGA and OCS, I didn't know they were merged.
I never used Mantis and have no idea what to do with it. I'm hoping one of the more active patchers will jump in on this, because I don't think Mr. Larmer and Bored Seal do much WHD stuff anymore.

[edit] turns out I had a Mantis account! So I reported this issue. Here's hoping it gets fixed soon.

Retro-Nerd · 22 January 2016, 21:22

Would be nice. Always wanted to play this on my Amiga but this controls issue was to annoying.

Amiga1992 · 22 January 2016, 21:33

Well I just saw an issue I reported for Quik two years ago and it was never fixed by CFOU

I hope this one gets better luck.

Retro-Nerd · 22 January 2016, 21:35

If nobody wants it i'm sure Stingy jumps in.

Nibbler · 23 January 2016, 00:54

That issue had a few Amiga Games
( f.e. FIFA comes to mind )

They Expect a Joystick in Port 1.

A simple fix is to unplug they mouse, or better, use a (Auto)Switch on port 1
which is always handy for some Multiplayer fun

Amiga1992 · 23 January 2016, 02:02

That isn't the issue. Did you read what was talked before in the thread? The game does the same even with a mouse unplugged.

jeff b00toNic · 23 January 2016, 09:24

Switch Joystick to port 1 and play the game it's realy that simple.
If you want to play the other guy as player one switch again.

Solo Kazuki · 23 January 2016, 12:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akira

[edit]I just tested it and it didn't work. Disabled the mouse in WinUAE, same shit. Uncontrollable up/down direction and every time I press fire it opens the OPTIONS MENU from which I cannot exit.

Did you switch off mouse BEFORE game? Switching off mouse while game is in main menu does't help, game remember last mouse input. You must switch off mouse on WHDLoad splash screen, not when game is already running.

Solo Kazuki · 23 January 2016, 12:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nibbler

They Expect a Joystick in Port 1.

They expect joysticks in BOTH ports, that's all

So i bet software switching ports doesn't help, it will be just mouse input for 2nd player.

daxb · 23 January 2016, 14:17

I`ve an auto switch for maus/joystick and tried the press joystick fire button while splash screen. It doesn`t really help. My experience is that some games have this issue. For example the game Bratwurst (Aminet) has a similar problem with menu- and game control.

jotd · 23 January 2016, 14:28

same thing for Chaos Engine 2!

Nibbler · 23 January 2016, 14:55

I can only talk about the real hardware... ( no winuae .. sorry )
When a Hardware-Maus/Joystick switcher is used,
simply pressing the firebutton on the second joystick sets port 1 to a joystick.

After that, i can use the menues in second samurai normally.

At least, it works in my case.
Greetings, Nib

Amiga1992 · 23 January 2016, 18:53

This isn't in the least bit simple. Even if we have to disconnect the mouse. Those of us using WHDLoad are probably running games off Workbench, therefore mouse is needed.
A fix is in place and Stingray is in the case so I hope he can figure it out.

EDIT: on the floppy version this does NOT happen. I can start a game. So it isn't just how it is supposed to be.

Lamaman71 · 11 December 2021, 00:55

Hi Folks, did this control issue ever get resolved for WHDload? I assume not.

22 January 2016, 18:01	#1
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	Second Samurai AGA: controls useless I cannot play this game, it has had this error since forever. I get to the Options screen but then the controls don't work. I cannot press START ever. It's like the directions go crazy and are always pushing UP.

22 January 2016, 21:10	#7
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	Oh I see, that is for both AGA and OCS, I didn't know they were merged. I never used Mantis and have no idea what to do with it. I'm hoping one of the more active patchers will jump in on this, because I don't think Mr. Larmer and Bored Seal do much WHD stuff anymore. [edit] turns out I had a Mantis account! So I reported this issue. Here's hoping it gets fixed soon. Last edited by Amiga1992; 22 January 2016 at 21:16.

23 January 2016, 00:54	#11
Nibbler namm namm AMIGA Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Austria Age: 44 Posts: 734	That issue had a few Amiga Games ( f.e. FIFA comes to mind ) They Expect a Joystick in Port 1. A simple fix is to unplug they mouse, or better, use a (Auto)Switch on port 1 which is always handy for some Multiplayer fun Last edited by Nibbler; 23 January 2016 at 15:44. Reason: typo .. again..

23 January 2016, 14:55	#18
Nibbler namm namm AMIGA Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Austria Age: 44 Posts: 734	I can only talk about the real hardware... ( no winuae .. sorry ) When a Hardware-Maus/Joystick switcher is used, simply pressing the firebutton on the second joystick sets port 1 to a joystick. After that, i can use the menues in second samurai normally. At least, it works in my case. Greetings, Nib Last edited by Nibbler; 23 January 2016 at 14:59. Reason: typo

23 January 2016, 18:53	#19
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	This isn't in the least bit simple. Even if we have to disconnect the mouse. Those of us using WHDLoad are probably running games off Workbench, therefore mouse is needed. A fix is in place and Stingray is in the case so I hope he can figure it out. EDIT: on the floppy version this does NOT happen. I can start a game. So it isn't just how it is supposed to be. Last edited by Amiga1992; 23 January 2016 at 19:14.

22 January 2016, 18:38	#2
Belgarath HOL Team Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Manchester Posts: 2,513	The comment I put on GB Amiga for this was Important: If playing a 1 player game, disable the mouse Try it and see how you get on.

22 January 2016, 20:54	#3
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	Oh is that what it is? Kinda lame. Is the original also that way? I feel like this could be fixed by the install. ANy takers? [edit]I just tested it and it didn't work. Disabled the mouse in WinUAE, same shit. Uncontrollable up/down direction and every time I press fire it opens the OPTIONS MENU from which I cannot exit.

22 January 2016, 20:56	#4
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,438	I have this problem on my real Amiga 1200 too. Tried everything. This patch needs an update badly.

22 January 2016, 20:58	#5
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	I'm glad to see it isn't just me, this install is really old and nobody has fixed it. I can't even find it in the official WHDLoad page so no idea how to report a problem. Hopefully someone here can take the gauntlet and make it right.

22 January 2016, 21:02	#6
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,438	http://whdload.de/games/SecondSamurai.html or on Mantis.

22 January 2016, 21:22	#8
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,438	Would be nice. Always wanted to play this on my Amiga but this controls issue was to annoying.

22 January 2016, 21:33	#9
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	Well I just saw an issue I reported for Quik two years ago and it was never fixed by CFOU I hope this one gets better luck.

22 January 2016, 21:35	#10
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,438	If nobody wants it i'm sure Stingy jumps in.

23 January 2016, 02:02	#12
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	That isn't the issue. Did you read what was talked before in the thread? The game does the same even with a mouse unplugged.

23 January 2016, 09:24	#13
jeff b00toNic Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Arnsberg Germany Age: 45 Posts: 193	Switch Joystick to port 1 and play the game it's realy that simple. If you want to play the other guy as player one switch again.

23 January 2016, 14:17	#16
daxb Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 3,303	I`ve an auto switch for maus/joystick and tried the press joystick fire button while splash screen. It doesn`t really help. My experience is that some games have this issue. For example the game Bratwurst (Aminet) has a similar problem with menu- and game control.

23 January 2016, 14:28	#17
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,166	same thing for Chaos Engine 2!

11 December 2021, 00:55	#20
Lamaman71 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: Katy, USA Posts: 154	Hi Folks, did this control issue ever get resolved for WHDload? I assume not.

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