Amiga models

BippyM · 18 December 2002, 20:45

Maybe wrong forum.. mod move if is pls

Right I have 2 a500's they are identical in every way except for 1!

1 has a red powerlight, red capslock light, and a green floppy light

the other has a green power/capslock lights and orange drive light!

What are the differences eg.. Is one an Import (I am in UK) I have only ever seen the green/green/orange lights in 12 yrs and never the red/red/green lights!

CodyJarrett · 18 December 2002, 20:48

I think that the red power light one is a Kickstart 1.2 Amiga 500...

BippyM · 18 December 2002, 20:49

nope 1.3

It is EXACTLY the same as the other as i have stripped them both!

thinlega · 18 December 2002, 23:15

My a500 had The green and orange/yellow combo but then the keyboard stoped working so I got it fixed and it came back with red lights......so maybe it is the keyboard version??????

BippyM · 18 December 2002, 23:21

in that case why is the power led red and drive light green?!?!

What were the colours in Germany.. come on chaps!

Miggy2TheMax · 19 December 2002, 01:45

I think commodore used any parts they could get their mits on, when it came to power/drive light combinations. I remember reading a hardware fix-guide created by an amiga techo and he said that he has seen every possible combination of colors

.. another note he made about amigas was that he never saw the same floppy drive manufacturers out of two different 500's.

Amiga1992 · 19 December 2002, 02:24

Miggy2TheMax is correct. It means pish all... They could have had fluo orange lights if Commodore wanted to, they just didnt give a fuck

So forget about identifying your machines that way. Only way to identify them is opening them up and checking the board and chip revs.

ElectroBlaster · 19 December 2002, 19:27

I remember the first ST's and a500's having red lights! seems as time went on they changed to the familiar green/yellow combo!

What i want to do is change the leds for bright blue one's!

BippyM · 20 December 2002, 09:28

Quote:

Originally posted by ElectroBlaster
I remember the first ST's and a500's having red lights! seems as time went on they changed to the familiar green/yellow combo!

I seem to remember this also, hence why I asked!

Quote:

What i want to do is change the leds for bright blue one's!

That would look wicked, esp if you could change the caps-lock light also

mtb · 20 December 2002, 10:54

I have 2 500: the first one ( the one i had, 90 - 1.3 ) had a green power led and an orange drive led, another one i've found recently had a red power led and i think a green led for the drive ( i think it's older than mine )

ElectroBlaster · 20 December 2002, 14:58

@bippym

The capslok led is very small! its one of the smallest leds i have ever seen... but if a suitable blu led can be found i dont see why it cant be changed!

The other problem is these blu leds are the standard round type and i have never seen anything that comes close to the type that commodore used on the amigas

I have been toying with the idea of putting a small bit of lexan/plexi glass under where the leds are on my 1200 and fitting the blu leds in anyway!.... dont know if it will look good or not?

Amiga1992 · 20 December 2002, 18:07

The plexiglass thing might look good... Depends on its texture. if the light stucks focused in the area where the LED is, it will look like shite. If it spreads around the piece of plastic, it will look good..

Just like the Amiga leds. you just need to find the right piece of plastic. Try asking at the place where you buy the LED, they might be able to help you out.

ElectroBlaster · 20 December 2002, 20:10

The other forum i hang out on has a alot of pc modding going on!
way before the mainstream got into it... I've seen all sorts of stuff but never amiga's

Im going to ask about these leds and see if they come in different shapes and sizes!

Amiga1992 · 21 December 2002, 18:13

try PMing MOS6581, remember his modded C64?

rgen · 22 December 2002, 09:40

BTW has anybody ever unscrewed the A1200 LED board ? Never laughed so much again!

ElectroBlaster · 23 December 2002, 02:34

? eh yeh ok.... i have modded quite a few 1200's in my time! way before true amiga towers came out i was building them from scratch and yes i did remove the 1200 led board... very easy in fact! 2 screws to undo and its off!

i even used to remove the leds and fit two pin headers to allow standard ATX case leds to plug straight on and work! no silly cutting of wires etc....

rgen · 23 December 2002, 10:00

ElectroBlaster · 23 December 2002, 16:31

ah sorry! i thought i was being laugthed at cuzz i like to mod amiga's... i dont do it so much now tho! i kinda think a good condition amiga should be left well alone.

Its only when they get really tatty and yellowed that i bother to do them up!

Parsec · 17 February 2003, 01:44

I have two A500's the first is an early one (serial number about 34000), KS1.3 and green/red LED's. Made in far east.

The other is S/N something like 950,000, KS 1.3, green/orange LED's and is made in West Germany.

Unless this is a red herring it seems like later models have the green/orange LED's. The motherboard in the later one is a couple of revisions higher and has quite a few visible differences. Unfortunately it also has a duff op-amp on one of the audio-outs, so I still use the old a500

rattus · 17 February 2003, 21:40

I heard at www.amiga-hardware.com that the A500's with orange lights were actually A500+'s. Yours might be a downgraded one (replaced kick2.0 with kick1.3) or just a screw-up at the factory

18 December 2002, 20:45	#1
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	Amiga models Maybe wrong forum.. mod move if is pls Right I have 2 a500's they are identical in every way except for 1! 1 has a red powerlight, red capslock light, and a green floppy light the other has a green power/capslock lights and orange drive light! What are the differences eg.. Is one an Import (I am in UK) I have only ever seen the green/green/orange lights in 12 yrs and never the red/red/green lights!

23 December 2002, 10:00	#17
rgen Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Aachen/Germany Age: 46 Posts: 190	I meant the text on it: A1200 LED REV 1 COMMODORE (C) 1992. A technical revolution to connect 3 LEDs with 4 wires, worth to hold a copyright and they even succed at the first try !

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18 December 2002, 20:48	#2
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 6,161	I think that the red power light one is a Kickstart 1.2 Amiga 500...

18 December 2002, 20:49	#3
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	nope 1.3 It is EXACTLY the same as the other as i have stripped them both!

18 December 2002, 23:15	#4
thinlega .:Part-Time Winner:. Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: UK Posts: 531	My a500 had The green and orange/yellow combo but then the keyboard stoped working so I got it fixed and it came back with red lights......so maybe it is the keyboard version??????

18 December 2002, 23:21	#5
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	in that case why is the power led red and drive light green?!?! What were the colours in Germany.. come on chaps!

19 December 2002, 01:45	#6
Miggy2TheMax Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Australia Age: 45 Posts: 381	I think commodore used any parts they could get their mits on, when it came to power/drive light combinations. I remember reading a hardware fix-guide created by an amiga techo and he said that he has seen every possible combination of colors .. another note he made about amigas was that he never saw the same floppy drive manufacturers out of two different 500's.

19 December 2002, 02:24	#7
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,646	Miggy2TheMax is correct. It means pish all... They could have had fluo orange lights if Commodore wanted to, they just didnt give a fuck So forget about identifying your machines that way. Only way to identify them is opening them up and checking the board and chip revs.

19 December 2002, 19:27	#8
ElectroBlaster Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Exeter, Devon, UK Age: 49 Posts: 1,708	I remember the first ST's and a500's having red lights! seems as time went on they changed to the familiar green/yellow combo! What i want to do is change the leds for bright blue one's!

20 December 2002, 10:54	#10
mtb Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Italy Age: 40 Posts: 466	I have 2 500: the first one ( the one i had, 90 - 1.3 ) had a green power led and an orange drive led, another one i've found recently had a red power led and i think a green led for the drive ( i think it's older than mine )

20 December 2002, 14:58	#11
ElectroBlaster Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Exeter, Devon, UK Age: 49 Posts: 1,708	@bippym The capslok led is very small! its one of the smallest leds i have ever seen... but if a suitable blu led can be found i dont see why it cant be changed! The other problem is these blu leds are the standard round type and i have never seen anything that comes close to the type that commodore used on the amigas I have been toying with the idea of putting a small bit of lexan/plexi glass under where the leds are on my 1200 and fitting the blu leds in anyway!.... dont know if it will look good or not?

20 December 2002, 18:07	#12
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,646	The plexiglass thing might look good... Depends on its texture. if the light stucks focused in the area where the LED is, it will look like shite. If it spreads around the piece of plastic, it will look good.. Just like the Amiga leds. you just need to find the right piece of plastic. Try asking at the place where you buy the LED, they might be able to help you out.

20 December 2002, 20:10	#13
ElectroBlaster Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Exeter, Devon, UK Age: 49 Posts: 1,708	The other forum i hang out on has a alot of pc modding going on! way before the mainstream got into it... I've seen all sorts of stuff but never amiga's Im going to ask about these leds and see if they come in different shapes and sizes!

21 December 2002, 18:13	#14
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,646	try PMing MOS6581, remember his modded C64?

22 December 2002, 09:40	#15
rgen Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Aachen/Germany Age: 46 Posts: 190	BTW has anybody ever unscrewed the A1200 LED board ? Never laughed so much again!

23 December 2002, 02:34	#16
ElectroBlaster Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Exeter, Devon, UK Age: 49 Posts: 1,708	? eh yeh ok.... i have modded quite a few 1200's in my time! way before true amiga towers came out i was building them from scratch and yes i did remove the 1200 led board... very easy in fact! 2 screws to undo and its off! i even used to remove the leds and fit two pin headers to allow standard ATX case leds to plug straight on and work! no silly cutting of wires etc....

23 December 2002, 16:31	#18
ElectroBlaster Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Exeter, Devon, UK Age: 49 Posts: 1,708	ah sorry! i thought i was being laugthed at cuzz i like to mod amiga's... i dont do it so much now tho! i kinda think a good condition amiga should be left well alone. Its only when they get really tatty and yellowed that i bother to do them up!

17 February 2003, 01:44	#19
Parsec Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Lancashire Age: 49 Posts: 434	I have two A500's the first is an early one (serial number about 34000), KS1.3 and green/red LED's. Made in far east. The other is S/N something like 950,000, KS 1.3, green/orange LED's and is made in West Germany. Unless this is a red herring it seems like later models have the green/orange LED's. The motherboard in the later one is a couple of revisions higher and has quite a few visible differences. Unfortunately it also has a duff op-amp on one of the audio-outs, so I still use the old a500

17 February 2003, 21:40	#20
rattus Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 328	I heard at www.amiga-hardware.com that the A500's with orange lights were actually A500+'s. Yours might be a downgraded one (replaced kick2.0 with kick1.3) or just a screw-up at the factory

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