Can't Install ImageFX 4.5

[stylon]

Hi Guys,

Hoping someone can assist here. Just bought ImageFX4.5 and can't get it to install. Got the physical CD version but also tried the download version after I registered and had the exact same experience with both.

Basically half-way through the install (just after I finish selecting printers) it just stops with this error:

"Copyfiles: Problem with source file/drawer "RAM:Browser.info" in line 1726."
"DOS Error Type: Unable to locate file or drawer."

The Install_Datatypes_V45 installer fails in almost the exact same way.

Installing on an A1200/030/FPU with 128MB RAM, WB3.1.4.1.

Thanks.

[Matt_H]

Not a guarantee, but check your version of Installer - old versions can sometimes cause errors like this.

[stylon]

OK - that was good info thanks. Turns out I had an older installer in C: (43.x) and newer ones in both my System and Utilities folder (45.8). No idea how that came to be...

Anyway, when I pointed it to the newer installer it worked perfectly. I've now replaced the older one in C:.

However.... now I've got over that hurdle I've encountered yet another...

ImageFX just crashes when I try to run it.

What happens is it briefly pops up a message about loading a dither module and then bang - Software Failure. Error 8100 0005

[Matt_H]

Time for SnoopDos! See what exactly it’s failing on. My guess would be it’s trying to load an 040/060 version of something that doesn’t like the 030. Even though you probably specified 030 in the Installer, the way ImageFX packages/installs it’s modules is bizarre and some incompatible versions may have slipped in.

If it’s not that, it might have overwritten some system files. I seem to recall that it dumps a few things into Libs: and Sys:Classes without asking...

[AMIGASYSTEM]

stylon, i think you need OS 3.9 to run ImageFX 4.5, you need ClassAct

[stylon]

Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM

stylon, i think you need OS 3.9 to run ImageFX 4.5, you need ClassAct

Unless they've made a mistake it does explicitly say that it works with Classic systems: OS 3.0, 3.1 and 3.9 so hopefully that's not the problem. I do have ClassAct2 installed on my system as I remember something else needed it.

Source: http://apps.amistore.net/imagefx/

[stylon]

Originally Posted by Matt_H

Time for SnoopDos! See what exactly it’s failing on. My guess would be it’s trying to load an 040/060 version of something that doesn’t like the 030. Even though you probably specified 030 in the Installer, the way ImageFX packages/installs it’s modules is bizarre and some incompatible versions may have slipped in.

If it’s not that, it might have overwritten some system files. I seem to recall that it dumps a few things into Libs: and Sys:Classes without asking...

Not entirely sure how I'd go about checking if I have the correct 030 version of the program(s) to be honest...

I don't always get the Software fault guru meditation reset, sometimes the program just locks up completely after failing to load the dither module.

Anyway here's my log...

SnoopDos logging started on Saturday, 17-Apr-21 at 17:56:22

Count Process Name Action Target Name Options Res.
----- ------------ ------ ----------- ------- ----
1 WBL ChangeDir Work:ImageFX4
2 WBL Load ImageFX OK
3 WBL ChangeDir SYS:
4 ImageFX ChangeDir Work:ImageFX4
5 ramlib Load LIBS:cybergraphics.library Fail
6 ramlib Load cybergraphics.library Fail
7 ImageFX ChangeDir Work:ImageFX4
8 ImageFX Open ImageFX.info Read OK
9 ImageFX ToolType SCREENMODE Fail
10 ImageFX ToolType FONTNAME Fail
11 ImageFX ToolType FONTSIZE Fail
12 ImageFX ToolType PREFS OK
13 ImageFX ToolType FILETYPE Fail
14 ImageFX ToolType NOSTARTUP Fail
15 ImageFX ToolType MACRO Fail
16 ImageFX ToolType SCRIPT Fail
17 ImageFX ToolType SCANNER Fail
18 ImageFX ToolType PREVIEW Fail
19 ImageFX ToolType RENDER Fail
20 ImageFX ToolType PRINTER Fail
21 ImageFX ToolType TOOLCONFIG Fail
22 ImageFX ToolType HOOK Fail
23 ImageFX ToolType HOOKEXIT Fail
24 ImageFX ToolType HOOKSYNC Fail
25 ImageFX ToolType QUANTIZE Fail
26 ImageFX ToolType WORKBENCH Fail
27 ImageFX ToolType ICONIFY Fail
28 ImageFX ToolType PALETTE Fail
29 ImageFX ToolType PUBSCREEN Fail
30 ImageFX ToolType TEXT Fail
31 ImageFX ToolType GTCOMPLIANT Fail
32 ImageFX ToolType HELP Fail
33 ImageFX ToolType LEFTEDGE Fail
34 ImageFX ToolType TOPEDGE Fail
35 ImageFX ToolType LOADERPATH Fail
36 ImageFX ToolType SAVERPATH Fail
37 ImageFX ToolType DRAWMODEPATH Fail
38 ImageFX ToolType ASSIGN OK
39 ImageFX ToolType NOWBPREVIEW Fail
40 ImageFX ToolType ENABLE_EXTERNAL Fail
41 ImageFX ToolType INITVMEMLATE Fail
42 ImageFX ToolType NOATTACHEDSCREENS Fail
43 ImageFX ToolType FONTREQ Fail
44 ImageFX ToolType QUIET Fail
45 ImageFX ToolType THUMBLIBRARY Fail
46 ImageFX ToolType ASPECTADJUST Fail
47 ImageFX ToolType NOASYNCHELP Fail
48 ImageFX ToolType NOHELP Fail
49 ImageFX ToolType ASYNCHELP Fail
50 ImageFX ToolType PREVIEWNAILWIDTH Fail
51 ImageFX ToolType PREVIEWNAILHEIGHT Fail
52 ImageFX ToolType WINDOWED OK
53 ImageFX ToolType SCREENED Fail
54 ImageFX ToolType CLASSIC Fail
55 ImageFX ToolType INTERFACE Fail
56 ImageFX ToolType LARGEFONT Fail
57 ImageFX ToolType SMALLFONT Fail
58 ImageFX ToolType CPU Fail
59 ImageFX ToolType FPU Fail
60 ImageFX ToolType NOCACHEFX Fail
61 ImageFX ToolType CYCLE_GADGET Fail
62 ImageFX ToolType AUTOSAVEPREFS Fail
63 ImageFX ToolType POWERUP Fail
64 ImageFX ToolType LAYERMANAGERHEIGHT Fail
65 ImageFX ToolType DBUGLEVEL Fail
66 ImageFX ToolType DEBUGLEVEL Fail
67 ImageFX ToolType DBUGFILE Fail
68 ImageFX ToolType DEBUGFILE Fail
69 ImageFX ToolType SERIALDEBUG Fail
70 ImageFX ToolType DEBUG Fail
71 ImageFX ToolType GREENOPAQUE Fail
72 ImageFX ToolType DEBUGDELAY Fail
73 ImageFX ChangeDir Work:ImageFX4
74 ImageFX LockScreen Workbench OK
75 ImageFX ChangeDir Work:ImageFX4
76 ImageFX Open Text/Main.text Read Fail
77 ramlib Load LIBS:magic.library Fail
78 ramlib Load magic.library Fail
79 ramlib Load LIBS:thumbnail.library OK
80 ramlib Load LIBS:retina.library Fail
81 ramlib Load retina.library Fail
82 ramlib Load LIBS:retinaemu.library Fail
83 ramlib Load retinaemu.library Fail
84 ramlib Load LIBS:cybergraphics.library Fail
85 ramlib Load cybergraphics.library Fail
86 ramlib Load LIBS:cybergraphics.library Fail
87 ramlib Load cybergraphics.library Fail
88 ImageFX Open Default.prefs Read Fail
89 ImageFX Open Default.prefs Read Fail
90 ImageFX Open Default.prefs Read Fail
91 ImageFX Open Default.prefs Read Fail
92 ImageFX Open Default.keys Read Fail
93 ImageFX Open Default.keys Read Fail
94 ImageFX Load Modules/Loaders/ILBM Fail
95 ImageFX Load modules/sys/Dither Fail

Closed SnoopDos log at 17:56:53

[AMIGASYSTEM]

Originally Posted by stylon

Unless they've made a mistake it does explicitly say that it works with Classic systems: OS 3.0, 3.1 and 3.9 so hopefully that's not the problem. I do have ClassAct2 installed on my system as I remember something else needed it.

Source: http://apps.amistore.net/imagefx/

Yes I know it works with OS 3.0, 3.1 and 3.9, but you are using OS 3.1.4.

If you don't have problems with the ClassAct, try to use the "post.library" of OS 3.9, that should work, I did a test and it works for me, see screenshot !

[stylon]

Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM

Yes I know it works with OS 3.0, 3.1 and 3.9, but you are using OS 3.1.4.

If you don't have problems with the ClassAct, try to use the "post.library" of OS 3.9, that should work, I did a test and it works for me, see screenshot !

Sounds promising... but do you have any idea where I can get hold of the post.library file?

I tried downloading the OS3.9 ISO and searched the entre disc and couldn't find it?

Thanks.

[AMIGASYSTEM]

Yes you're right it's not part of OS3.9, it was in Libs for a previous test.

Then about the "post.library", you must use the standard v22.25, not the one named post.library.020

[AMIGASYSTEM]

As mentioned on OS3.9 ImageFX works better, all post.library even the newest post.library 23.1 works fine.

I attach a screenshot of ImageFX on my OS 3.9 BB4 AfA One:

[stylon]

OK I checked the version of post.library and it was 22.25 so by your reckoning it should be working. (The only other version there was a backup of an older version - 17.7).

So I uninstalled ImageFX, making sure I deleted every trace of the program, all the extras and so on and then re-installed it. This time around instead of installing everything I just installed the main program with no extras and I also didn't enable that 'Magic server' thing... and now it works!

As I get more familiar with the program I'll add any extras as and when I need them and then at least I will know which thing breaks it next time.

Anyway, thanks for the assist.

Now I just need to track down a decent manual for it as there wasn't one included, despite me buying the physical version of the software!

[gdonner]

Originally Posted by stylon

OK - that was good info thanks. Turns out I had an older installer in C: (43.x) and newer ones in both my System and Utilities folder (45.8). No idea how that came to be...

Anyway, when I pointed it to the newer installer it worked perfectly. I've now replaced the older one in C:.
[snip]

FWIW, another odd issue that the latest Installer corrects is the Installer defaulting to a topaz font that extends past the GUI window, making it impossible to continue the installation (happened with AD Pro v2.5).

Once I used the newest version of Installer (from 3.1.4), the font was correct, and the install worked perfectly.

[gdonner]

Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM

Yes you're right it's not part of OS3.9, it was in Libs for a previous test.

Then about the "post.library", you must use the standard v22.25, not the one named post.library.020

If you don't mind my asking, what functionality does post.library offer that ImageFX needs?

I ask, as I have ImageFX 4.5, and it seems to run fine without it?