28 August 2020, 19:51 | #1 |
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Workbench Colour Palettes
OK, so I've read enough to realise that colour palettes in Workbench are a bit of a can of worms, but...
Without any extras, such as Magic this and Glow that, I have set my screen mode in Workbench to 16 colours. So far so good. But when drawing icons or working with the Palette Prefs, I am only offered 8. Am I missing something? Where are the other 8 colours? If they're not usable by WB, then is there any point going above 8? IconEdit and Palette Prefs can both show me 8 colours... Confused... ...any advice? |
28 August 2020, 21:06 | #2 |
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You need this: http://aminet.net/package/util/wb/FullPalette22
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always asked this myself. will try it out.
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@daxb Thanks for that, just the job! I've now made myself a nice 16 colour palette.
But, IconEdit, Pointer and WBpattern still only offer me the 8 default locked colours, am I doing something wrong, or do I need to find more sophisticated apps to make my pointers, patterns and icons? |
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As far as I know Pointer is (and always was) limited to 4 colours. I don't know if or how it works, but there exists 16 colour pointers: http://aminet.net/package/pix/icon/MCP_CoplandPtr
IconEdit from OS3.1 is limited. Maybe OS 3.1.4 or 3.9 have better colour support. Alternative use PPaint for drawing icons. I don't know if OS >= 3.1.4 support more colours with WBPattern for pattern. However, you can use images as patterns and therefore all the colours you need or palette provides. You may look at Aminet what is full of icons, pointers and patterns. |
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For Icons: There are 3 main types of icons on Amiga:
Don't install "hacks" like NewIcons or PowerIcons. They were very useful in their day, but are slow and ugly hacks. They are now superseded by "proper" implementations. For all icons, just install PeterK's latest icon library and you're fine. (http://aminet.net/package/util/libs/IconLib_46.4) As Workbench background, you can just use any image you like (IFF and in more recent versions also JPG) with as much colours as you want. Any OS can display these icons, but the colour depth of your workbench determines how and with what colours they are displayed exactly. Your workbench background and your icons get mapped/converted on the fly. All workbench programs that want to display graphics can "claim" any amount of colour, then the system works out what the most optimal palette is on the fly and that's the palette all graphics have to work with, including icons and background. Quite a clever mechanism actually! This is also why the colours of your (classic) icons suddenly can change when you open a program that also want to display some graphics, because the exact workbench palette is not fixed and can change at any time. All this "on the fly colour mapping" takes CPU power of course. That's why on non-expanded Amigas, it's not recommended to use backgrounds with lots of colours, or set your colour depth too high, because everything will slow down, trying to cope with these palette optimisations. Tools like fullpalette let you manage/lock all of your system colours, then the icons and your background will map on those colours. And if you lock all colours with this tool, your palette won't change on the fly. So for best visual results on a 16 color workbench.
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I keep coming back to this post as it's a comprehensive description of all this.
Thanks Steffest! |
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