XBox 1 video playback

Peter · 14 January 2011, 16:53

I know the Xbox using XBMC can show show avi files but can it show MKV and MP4 films and files as well...?

alexh · 14 January 2011, 17:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter

can it show MKV and MP4 films and files as well...?

Yes, but if they are encoded at too high a bit-rate it will struggle (i.e. stutter) Some downloads say "xbox friendly" in the nfo file.

Peter · 14 January 2011, 17:06

Thanks Alex, picking your brains a bit further if that's ok - what is an acceptable bit-rate do you think?

Allen1 · 14 January 2011, 17:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter

I know the Xbox using XBMC can show show avi files but can it show MKV and MP4 films and files as well...?

And you can change the screen size etc in XBOX media center, my PSP films look pretty good on my standard TV when I use the Xbox and you can stick a lot of MP4 films on a DVD

alexh · 14 January 2011, 17:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter

what is an acceptable bit-rate do you think?

http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title..._XBMC_For_Xbox

Peter · 14 January 2011, 18:14

Thanks for the info Alex and for the thread split TCD!

rare_j · 15 January 2011, 00:08

I've not had much luck with mkv. I encoded some dvd's at a recommended settings ( lower actually) with handbrake. I got sound and subtitles in mplayer but no picture, and sound and picture in dvdplayer but no subtitles! Using t3ch's last stable release. What's the secret?

Retroplay · 15 January 2011, 10:04

I always used the x264 XBOX profile in MeGUI whenever I encoded x264/AAC MKV or MP4 movies.

I said used because there's really no point in using x264, Xvid/AC3 is a much better choice for the good old XBOX.
Xvid 720p looks and runs sweet (1280x544), 1280x720 can be a little choppy but it's still watchable.

Peter · 15 January 2011, 16:10

Just got some MP4 files and they are very choppy/jerky on the Xbox through XBMC so what is the best thing to do with the files...?

I have the software "Any Video Converter" so I was going to convert the files to AVI - is that the best thing to do in these circumstances?

Retroplay · 15 January 2011, 19:26

Yes, but I don't know how well "Any Video Converter" does the job.

MeGUI does an excellent job.
You need to install Avisynth if you want to try it.

Peter · 15 January 2011, 19:36

Thanks Retroplay - I will have a play with MeGUI as "Any Video Converter" doesn't seem too configurable.

Mad-Matt · 15 January 2011, 20:21

MeGui isnt very streamlined. Give Staxrip a shot if it gives you trouble.

Peter · 17 January 2011, 11:46

OK, picking your Brains even further... I am still working with Any Video Converter software trying to convert a MKV file to AVI - I must be a bit thick because although I have read the Wiki guide to XBMC I am still a bit confused about the best video settings for AVI playback via XBMC....

What from your experience (aimed at anyone!) would be the best video settings (see picture) for an AVI conversion here... the conversion process takes a long time on my computer so if anyone can give me an idea of what setting would produce the best picture on the Xbox I would be grateful for the advice...

Amigafanboi · 17 January 2011, 12:38

640x272 950kpbs 25 fps

640x240 1150kpbs 23 fps

examples of 2 very good quality films that run great on my xbox

Peter · 17 January 2011, 12:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amigafanboi

640x272 950kpbs 25 fps

640x240 1150kpbs 23 fps

examples of 2 very good quality films that run great on my xbox

Thanks!

BuZz · 17 January 2011, 18:47

in regards to 1280x720 playback, even better than xvid is divx or ffmpegs mpeg4 codec for example. this is because unlike xvid, you can set a maximum bitrate.

i do something like

mencoder -oac copy -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vbitrate=5000:vrc_maxrate=5000:vrc_buf_size=4096 infile.mkv -o outfile.avi

which will play without dropping frames on 1280x720p video. The charts on the xbmc4xbox wiki are also out of date. you can do slightly higher bitrates with h264 than it states - also newer h264 will only okay on the dvdplayer player, as the built in mplayer is rather out of date.

Jimbo · 17 January 2011, 18:59

Another nice output is using handbrakecli. You can use a gui as well. I use linux but commands should be exactly the same. This is from a DVD source: (I rip the DVD to HD first)

HandBrakeCLI -i '/media/disk2/dvd/THE_MATRIX/' -o /media/disk2/Matrix.mp4 -t 1 -C 2 -f mp4 -e ffmpeg -b 2000 -r 25 -a 1 -E lame -B 200 -6 dpl2 -R 48 -D 4.0 --loose-anamorphic

Takes about 40 mins tops on a P4 3.4ghz with 1.5gig of ram

Quick easy and a superb picture I doubt you will beat easily.

Above options -t = track number. -a = audio track you want to rip from DVD

Amigafanboi · 17 January 2011, 19:04

it also depends on wich revision/build of XBMC you are using, i hadn't updated for a very long time and newer encoded stuff played choppy or stuttered until i upgraded to the latest version of XBMC wich is still being improved to this day.

BuZz · 18 January 2011, 00:12

here is an example 720p video that the xbox can play back without skipping

http://malus.exotica.org.uk/~buzz/eab/

I used my example commandline above - and im sure you could increase the quality further, but it's ok as an example.

Peter · 18 January 2011, 16:33

That's a great clip BuZz - it looked great on my Xbox through Xbmc!

14 January 2011, 16:53	#1
Peter Still an Amiga user Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kent Age: 55 Posts: 2,715	XBox 1 video playback I know the Xbox using XBMC can show show avi files but can it show MKV and MP4 films and files as well...?

15 January 2011, 16:10	#9
Peter Still an Amiga user Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kent Age: 55 Posts: 2,715	Just got some MP4 files and they are very choppy/jerky on the Xbox through XBMC so what is the best thing to do with the files...? I have the software "Any Video Converter" so I was going to convert the files to AVI - is that the best thing to do in these circumstances? Last edited by Peter; 15 January 2011 at 16:29.

17 January 2011, 11:46	#13
Peter Still an Amiga user Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kent Age: 55 Posts: 2,715	OK, picking your Brains even further... I am still working with Any Video Converter software trying to convert a MKV file to AVI - I must be a bit thick because although I have read the Wiki guide to XBMC I am still a bit confused about the best video settings for AVI playback via XBMC.... What from your experience (aimed at anyone!) would be the best video settings (see picture) for an AVI conversion here... the conversion process takes a long time on my computer so if anyone can give me an idea of what setting would produce the best picture on the Xbox I would be grateful for the advice... Attached Thumbnails

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14 January 2011, 17:06	#3
Peter Still an Amiga user Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kent Age: 55 Posts: 2,715	Thanks Alex, picking your brains a bit further if that's ok - what is an acceptable bit-rate do you think?

14 January 2011, 18:14	#6
Peter Still an Amiga user Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kent Age: 55 Posts: 2,715	Thanks for the info Alex and for the thread split TCD!

15 January 2011, 00:08	#7
rare_j Zone Friend Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London Posts: 1,176	I've not had much luck with mkv. I encoded some dvd's at a recommended settings ( lower actually) with handbrake. I got sound and subtitles in mplayer but no picture, and sound and picture in dvdplayer but no subtitles! Using t3ch's last stable release. What's the secret?

15 January 2011, 10:04	#8
Retroplay Lemon Curry ? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Denmark Age: 49 Posts: 4,084	I always used the x264 XBOX profile in MeGUI whenever I encoded x264/AAC MKV or MP4 movies. I said used because there's really no point in using x264, Xvid/AC3 is a much better choice for the good old XBOX. Xvid 720p looks and runs sweet (1280x544), 1280x720 can be a little choppy but it's still watchable.

15 January 2011, 19:26	#10
Retroplay Lemon Curry ? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Denmark Age: 49 Posts: 4,084	Yes, but I don't know how well "Any Video Converter" does the job. MeGUI does an excellent job. You need to install Avisynth if you want to try it.

15 January 2011, 19:36	#11
Peter Still an Amiga user Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kent Age: 55 Posts: 2,715	Thanks Retroplay - I will have a play with MeGUI as "Any Video Converter" doesn't seem too configurable.

15 January 2011, 20:21	#12
Mad-Matt Longplayer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lincoln / UK Age: 44 Posts: 1,848	MeGui isnt very streamlined. Give Staxrip a shot if it gives you trouble.

17 January 2011, 12:38	#14
Amigafanboi Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Fareham Hampshire Age: 54 Posts: 142	640x272 950kpbs 25 fps 640x240 1150kpbs 23 fps examples of 2 very good quality films that run great on my xbox

17 January 2011, 18:47	#16
BuZz Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Oxford / UK Age: 47 Posts: 583	in regards to 1280x720 playback, even better than xvid is divx or ffmpegs mpeg4 codec for example. this is because unlike xvid, you can set a maximum bitrate. i do something like mencoder -oac copy -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vbitrate=5000:vrc_maxrate=5000:vrc_buf_size=4096 infile.mkv -o outfile.avi which will play without dropping frames on 1280x720p video. The charts on the xbmc4xbox wiki are also out of date. you can do slightly higher bitrates with h264 than it states - also newer h264 will only okay on the dvdplayer player, as the built in mplayer is rather out of date.

17 January 2011, 18:59	#17
Jimbo Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Colchester Essex Age: 44 Posts: 822	Another nice output is using handbrakecli. You can use a gui as well. I use linux but commands should be exactly the same. This is from a DVD source: (I rip the DVD to HD first) HandBrakeCLI -i '/media/disk2/dvd/THE_MATRIX/' -o /media/disk2/Matrix.mp4 -t 1 -C 2 -f mp4 -e ffmpeg -b 2000 -r 25 -a 1 -E lame -B 200 -6 dpl2 -R 48 -D 4.0 --loose-anamorphic Takes about 40 mins tops on a P4 3.4ghz with 1.5gig of ram Quick easy and a superb picture I doubt you will beat easily. Above options -t = track number. -a = audio track you want to rip from DVD

17 January 2011, 19:04	#18
Amigafanboi Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Fareham Hampshire Age: 54 Posts: 142	it also depends on wich revision/build of XBMC you are using, i hadn't updated for a very long time and newer encoded stuff played choppy or stuttered until i upgraded to the latest version of XBMC wich is still being improved to this day.

18 January 2011, 00:12	#19
BuZz Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Oxford / UK Age: 47 Posts: 583	here is an example 720p video that the xbox can play back without skipping http://malus.exotica.org.uk/~buzz/eab/ I used my example commandline above - and im sure you could increase the quality further, but it's ok as an example.

18 January 2011, 16:33	#20
Peter Still an Amiga user Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kent Age: 55 Posts: 2,715	That's a great clip BuZz - it looked great on my Xbox through Xbmc!

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