Quake 3 on Classic

[trixster]

Alpha 6 crashes for me on loading with a ppc data storage exception.

[Cowcat]

Ok. This is the almost exact alpha5 with fixed multiplayer part. It's a little smaller than 5 because is using my mglQ2 lib with unneeded parts (that I used since the beginning of this). Alpha6 had some things "different". If this one doesn't work (works for me) there's a problem enabling network that screws all.

And I remove old alpha6.

[jack-3d]

Nice! I will test it this afternoon ans let you know.

BTW what is the trick to enable sound? Any command to console? I have AHI set to 8bit DMA on all Units.

And one more thing, how do you measure FPS? I would like to test differences between various Sonnets.

[trixster]

Seta s_initsound "1" in your config file. Sound causes a big fps hit on my system, I am using \s_sndbits 8

In game \cg_drawfps 1

In menus pre-game, timedemo 1 then demo [demoname] but I think we should decide what is a good common demo to use first so we can all compare results.

[Cowcat]

what is the trick to enable sound?

"sndbits 8" "s_initsound 1" "snd_restart".
Hedeon have it working with 8bit dma within certain parameters with gfx configurations.

how do you measure FPS?

"cg_drawFPS 1 "

Or "timedemo 1" on console and then going to "demos" on menu in the full game.

There are some kind of missconfiguration setting the vars by the game: Sometimes get recorded on q3config.cfg sometimes not. Old sources and 2 million things to change to update for 2017 daily ioquake3 github.

[Cowcat]

On the other side, it must be acknowledged than a good part of drawing functions are missing: No vertex arrays, no planeclipping, etc.... So it's a little unfair to check against other system versions.

[BULI]

Hello Everyone :-D

Cowcat thank for your fantastic work :-) (Again BlizQuake and HexenII

I just tested Q3, and Alpha5 work fine on A4000 with Sonnet 400mhz/1MB cache and Voodoo3 :-)

Last Alpha6, like first Alpha6 don't start correct :-( (error message from Sonnet/WarpOs).

By the way, if you want have more smooth textures and fire from gun, use this:
r_textureMode "Gl_LINEAR"

:-D

[trixster]

Hi Buli your Falcon is doing well!

GL_LINEAR looks good, I believe it is the console/config command for trilinear filtering in the settings. Bilinear is default and is GL_LINEAR_MIPMAP_NEAREST. Trilinear seems to be a few fps slower than bilinear.

[Cowcat]

Last Alpha6, like first Alpha6 don't start correct :

Dammit.

Stop downloading it then. Will post the sources to github.

[Marlon_]

Originally Posted by Cowcat

Dammit.

Stop downloading it then. Will post the sources to github.

[Cowcat]

@Marlon_ Feel free to grab my Blizquake & Q2 sources too.

[Marlon_]

Originally Posted by Cowcat

@Marlon_ Feel free to grab my Blizquake & Q2 sources too.

Will do!

I will merge the sources in the in the ioq3 repository with your sources, but until I've sorted that out, the sources can be downloaded as is from here: https://github.com/AmigaPorts/ioq3/releases/tag/v0.0.1

Download the .lha files, not the zip-sources.

[Cowcat]

Good !!

Now, for compile you need latest vbcc, posixlib, do the miniglQ3 lib and some hacky stuff for "msg.c" that is not updated. Have another one for those who dare.

This sources were ready to upload this last friday, but did run out of space

There is a makefile for a 68k binary, but something is missing in my code to make it work: Doesn't load the levels.
The org makefile is for building on a PC: I tested it with debian.

[Marlon_]

Cowcat's sources are now in it's own branch: https://github.com/AmigaPorts/ioq3/tree/Cowcat-WarpOS

It'll be there until I merge the changes. I'll try to wrap everything up so one repo works for all Amiga flavors (like I've done with my MilkyTracker port), while also grabbing the latest updates from the main ioq3 repo, but that will take a while. But when I've done the initial work, it'll be easier to keep up to date.

To work on the repo:

git clone git@github.com:AmigaPorts/ioq3.git
git checkout Cowcat-WarpOS

If you want to work on the sources on your own, you can fork the repo and push updates with pull requests, or I can add you to the Quake3 team on AmigaPorts: https://github.com/orgs/AmigaPorts/teams/quake3

[jack-3d]

Thank you for tips, now sound works and game is great!

Now tell me where I can download alpha6 with multiplayer support. I am gonna connect two Sonnet Amigas and maybe also PC and make some nice promo video ;oP

[BULI]

Originally Posted by trixster

Hi Buli your Falcon is doing well!

Hello, glad to know that Falcon is doing well

GL_LINEAR looks good, I believe it is the console/config command for trilinear filtering in the settings. Bilinear is default and is GL_LINEAR_MIPMAP_NEAREST. Trilinear seems to be a few fps slower than bilinear.

Option Bilinear and Trilinear from menu work strange (or they don't work corect?), but yes, You have right, with option GL_LINEAR is few FPS slower, but look much better for me (filtering textures).

[jack-3d]

I just tested my own recorded demo (q3dm6 wihout bots, just quick run and shooting to walls) to see FPS difference between various settings of texture quality and bilinear and trilinear. Here are results:

bilinear, txt 1 = 24,0
bilinear, txt 2 = 23,3
bilinear, txt 3 = 21,8
bilinear, txt 4 = 9,2 (unstable, maybe low memory)

trilinear, txt 1 = 24,0
trilinear, txt 2 = 23,3
trilinear, txt 3 = 21,9

Alpha5, G3 500/1, 192 MB, Voodoo3 2k

I have to say no FPS difference between Bilinear and Trilinear on my setup. The texture quality level 3 looks very nice and speed is fine. Level 4 is veeery slow and unstable (very often Amiga freezes and goes to reboot).

[BULI]

Originally Posted by jack-3d

I have to say no FPS difference between Bilinear and Trilinear on my setup.

Very Interesting, but when You have Trilinear option active in Menu, textures are filtering/smooth? Like when You use option r_textureMode "Gl_LINEAR" in config file?

[trixster]

I was looking for a quick way to start and stop demo recording and found this:

this is what I use. one key starts and stops the recording. unlimited number of recordings, each saved with a sequencial name (demo001, demo002,...)

bind x "vstr rec"
set rec "vstr first_rec"
set first_rec "g_synchronousclients 1;wait;record;wait;g_synchronousclients 0;set rec vstr second_rec"
set second_rec "stoprecord; set rec vstr first_rec"

[trixster]

I've just made a quick Alpha5 400/1 timedemo, q3dm6, no gun model, plenty of of shooting, no bots:

640x480 bilinear geo high, textures 2nd highest, lightmap = 24.5fps
640x480 trilinear geo high, textures 2nd highest, lightmap = 23.5fps
640x480 bilinear geo high, textures 2nd highest, vertex = 34.7
640x480 bilinear geo high, textures 2nd highest, lightmap, dyn lights off = 24.7

Seems like there really isn't a big hit with trilinear!

Using Paula 8bit DMA, sound works but the game often stutters and fps are noticeably lower. I can't get a timedemo score from using sound as the game crashes on trying to return to the main menu.

Paula Fast 8bit Stereo ++ is so stuttery as to be unusable, predictably.

I need to try a video with bots now.