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04 June 2021, 09:38 | #523 | |
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If there is one thing I wished for, it would be to have one "big command center" pref where you can switch on/off and change the biggest things in the Workbench. Should have the aforementioned resizing and window offscreen feature, the stuff that's already in the workbench pref, and the theming that currently hidden somewhere in the menu bar of the palette pref. I know now where I can find that stuff after reading up about it, but after installing yesterday I was a bit puzzled, like "so, where is all that new stuff now I have been hearing about?" Anyway, great job you people did. |
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04 June 2021, 10:01 | #524 |
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Just wanted to say thanks to all the devs for their work on OS3.2. It's really nice to be able to finally get rid of a whole bunch of patches, and the whole OS feels solid and responsive.
If anybody wants to see how much work as actually gone in to this, I'd recommend taking a look at the release notes in the NDK. Also, make sure to read the reference manual - there's a whole bunch of useful information in there, including some tips on how to change the way tab completion works in the shell. |
04 June 2021, 11:19 | #525 | |
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I haven't seen the new NDK yet and was never contacted about vbcc support in it, so I just assumed the worst. |
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04 June 2021, 12:07 | #526 |
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04 June 2021, 13:34 | #527 | |
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And the reason is also how these prefs files are applied to the system. Sort of the same thing, but yet another big change. Finally we didn't want to touch the prefs editors this time around. In the future (but maybe not even 3.3) we have an idea that we might want to rework the prefs editors, so it will have to wait until that point to make things more logical. |
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04 June 2021, 15:24 | #528 |
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I just read on Amiga.org that the serial number is printed on the outside wrapper of the packaging.
Keep your packaging people!! Mines gone to landfill |
04 June 2021, 16:18 | #529 |
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Yes, it's true and odd. Today i received my copy of AmigaOS 3.2 and serial number is sticked on transparent package foil.
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04 June 2021, 17:20 | #530 | |
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Is it for whenever we can register with Hyperion for updates ? |
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04 June 2021, 17:57 | #531 |
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04 June 2021, 18:05 | #532 |
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04 June 2021, 18:15 | #533 | |
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When the compiler's installation script has concluded and you reboot for the first time, have a look at the S:User-Startup file. It should have the following additions, if you installed the compiler to the "Work" device/volume: Code:
;BEGIN SAS/C assign sc: Work:sc assign lib: sc:lib assign include: sc:include assign cxxinclude: sc:cxxinclude path sc:c add ;END SAS/C Start with the files which are used by the compiler and its assembler and delete only those which will be replaced by the 3.2 header files: Code:
delete all include:clib delete all include:datatypes delete all include:devices delete all include:diskfont delete all include:dos delete all include:exec delete all include:gadgets delete all include:graphics delete all include:hardware delete all include:intuition delete all include:libraries delete all include:pragmas delete all include:prefs delete all include:proto delete all include:resources delete all include:rexx delete all include:utility delete all include:workbench delete include:all.gst delete include:all.gst.info Code:
copy NDK3.2/Include_H/#? include: all copy NDK3.2/Include_I/#? include: all Code:
copy NDK3.2/lib/#?.lib lib: Note that the "include:all.gst" file is deleted as a precaution so that you do not use it by mistake. It contains all the old Kickstart/Workbench 3.1 header files in a precompiled form which can be helpful to cut compilation time. But we just replaced all the 3.1 header files with the 3.2 versions... I recommend not to use "include:all.gst" file but to generate that precompiled global symbol table file in each of your projects as needed. The compiler options you use to generate these header files may have an impact on what is generated, and that may not be a file which works well with a different set of compiler options. Last edited by Olaf Barthel; 04 June 2021 at 18:57. |
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We have new and reworked interface files in the proto/protos/clib/inline/pragma/pragmas 'C' header file directories, generated from the updated SFD files. We tested these with the "old guard" (Lattice 'C' 4/5, SAS/C 6.x, Aztec 'C' 5.0b, DICE, GCC 2.95.3) but did not test specifically with VBCC We (meaning that it's my fault that VBCC slipped by) will try to do better next time. Hopefully, all three essential variants (#pragma libcall/tagcall/syscall for Lattice 'C' 4/5 and SAS/C, #pragma libcall/syscall and #pragma amicall for Aztec 'C' 5.0 and the inline functions and macros used by GCC 68k) will cover all the corners. If not, please let us know what needs to be done. Please note that support for precursors to C89/C90 (ANSI 'C'/ISO 'C') might at some point no longer be tenable. We did not test, specifically, if the old guard (Lattice 'C' 3, Aztec 'C' 3.6) could handle these header files. |
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04 June 2021, 19:51 | #536 | |
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That said I know someone has tested the NDK with vbcc so it should work. |
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04 June 2021, 19:51 | #537 | |
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A lot of programs and libraries called by programs can do checks for features and do optimized rendering based on the system configuration, so it's normal behavior for GUI toolkits. |
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04 June 2021, 20:02 | #538 | |
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But 3.2 brings in many new and revolutionary features never seen before even in 4.x series without overloading resources. In that respect 3.2 has caught up with 3.9 and superseded it. You are still able to use some of the 3.9 bundled applications that are not part of 3.2. |
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04 June 2021, 20:30 | #539 | |
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I'm glad to help. Just contact me by email with a copy of the latest NDK, and I will test it and provide suitable header files. My address should be known, but you find it here on top: http://sun.hasenbraten.de/~frank/ |
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04 June 2021, 20:42 | #540 |
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Is anyone using a Deneb with 3.2 yet? Can the new rom modules be flashed into the Deneb flashrom like the 3.9 rom modules and boingbag elements can?
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