HAM game with sprites - Proof of concept

[Havie]

Originally Posted by TCD

Or: http://hol.abime.net/4968/screenshot

It's Time Crisis on the Amiga but better - amazing! Seems a little short. Are you sure those are HAM graphics - look way better.

[NorthWay]

I always thought a pinball game would do well in HAM, even more so in HAM8.
My idea would be to mask the right side of objects with hw sprites (it would take a bit of processing to calculate the RGB changes needed to fix it up to be correct to the right of objects, but there are always optimizations to try).

[Havie]

Originally Posted by rothers

Does the nighmare fest that is top banana use HAM mode? Some of the later levels are pushing some really weird colour depths. Or is it just hammering the blitter in 32/64 colour mode? It's an odd one.

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Argghhhh - my eyes are bleeding...

[rothers]

Originally Posted by Havie

Argghhhh - my eyes are bleeding...

Yeah it's a bizarre game but those later levels kinda look like they have the bleeding on them and it only scrolls vertically.


Is this a forgotten HAM game?

[Solo Kazuki]

Originally Posted by TCD

Or: http://hol.abime.net/4968/screenshot

Beware! There is 2D version coming!
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Mind that game was made in one day (!)

But to not be offtopic, also Knights of Crystallion is in HAM
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[TCD]

Originally Posted by Solo Kazuki

But to not be offtopic, also Knights of Crystallion is in HAM
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So far there are 12 games in HOL marked as using HAM: http://hol.abime.net/hol_search.php?..._quickmatch=81

Maybe we can find more?

[Thorham]

Originally Posted by Havie

Argghhhh - my eyes are bleeding...

A terrible day to have eyes indeed

[Solo Kazuki]

Originally Posted by TCD

So far there are 12 games in HOL marked as using HAM: http://hol.abime.net/hol_search.php?..._quickmatch=81

Maybe we can find more?

No, "Zdzislav..." is 3x (same game). So it's only 10 games (and one unreleased).


Edit: AFAIR Ubek and Rebel GW24 are in HAM.

[TCD]

Originally Posted by Solo Kazuki

No, "Zdzislav..." is 3x (same game). So it's only 10 games (and one unreleased).

Ah yes, my bad.

Originally Posted by Solo Kazuki

Edit: AFAIR Ubek and Rebel GW24 are in HAM.

Yeah, UBEK looks like HAM. In Rebel GW24 it's the cutscenes (screenshots #2 and #3)? Would like some second opinions about both games.

[Solo Kazuki]

Originally Posted by TCD

In Rebel GW24 it's the cutscenes (screenshots #2 and #3)?

Not only, in unit/building info there is animation of unit/bulding in HAM. (screenshots #6 - #15).

[turrican3]

Originally Posted by TCD

So far there are 12 games in HOL marked as using HAM: http://hol.abime.net/hol_search.php?..._quickmatch=81

Maybe we can find more?

Genetic species use ham !
But where ?

[TCD]

Originally Posted by turrican3

Genetic species use ham !
But where ?

The intro: https://hol.abime.net/2716/screenshot

[sandruzzo]

@remz

If you tell me what you need to prove your idea in real time, maybe I can arrange an exe to "only" see your gfx into action.

[Seiya]

links (golf game) is in HAM.

[Amigajay]

Aceball uses HAM and HAM8 for the AGA version

[remz]

Originally Posted by sandruzzo

@remz

If you tell me what you need to prove your idea in real time, maybe I can arrange an exe to "only" see your gfx into action.

Thank you! I do have currently a running exe with horizontal scrolling at 50 fps.
I was checking various ways to use the blitter efficiently for drawing 16x16 tiles (which are 192 bytes each in HAM interleaved).
I was comparing blithog vs non-hog:
I seam to reach the simplified conclusion that for small blits, non-hog is more efficient because the CPU setup time for preparing the next blit is done in parallel. Blithog probably would win for large blits however.

[jotd]

> CPU setup time for preparing the next blit is done in parallel.

if you have fastmem, HOG or not HOG it runs in parallel. But yes if you're targetting a vanilla A1200 / full chip machine, turn off HOG if you want parallel, only enable HOG when you HAVE to wait for blitter to finish.