Emplant Diagnostic

Irl · 04 April 2017, 03:09

It shows a chip with BAD status, but there is no chip in the socket. What would go there and should I try to find it?

It also says all tests passed..

attle · 04 April 2017, 09:53

I wonder if that is the "ROM SIMM" socket?

Quote:

four empty 32 pin ROM / RAM sockets for OSs stored in DIP format (like 128 kB Mac ROMs) and a ROM SIMM socket

http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/emplant

Irl · 04 April 2017, 15:32

No, the SIMM socket is the long, white slot above it :/

Irl · 04 April 2017, 18:05

I found one on eBay that has the chip

It is a "HM6264ALP-10" 8192-word x 8-bit High Speed CMOS Static RAM

I wonder what CMOS is needed there.. I remember reading there was a BIOS for the e586dx, is that what the CMOS socket is for?

Irl · 04 April 2017, 18:13

Reading the datasheet, it appears to be high-speed SRAM not a ROM... I went ahead and ordered a couple on eBay to test out. If it is just SRAM, then I don't have to worry about finding a binary for it at least.

I still haven't gotten rsvrMEM or rsvrKick to work, so I haven't been able to get passed "Multitasking not enabled".

emufan · 04 April 2017, 23:14

Jim Drew is a member here. send him a pm, he should know what to do or what to get.

Irl · 08 April 2017, 01:12

I PM'd Jim, but I don't think he has been online to see it. I should receive the SRAM today and will post the results of testing with them.

JimDrew · 08 April 2017, 06:11

The SRAM could be used for the Mac's PRAM. The jumper by the socket enables/disables the RAM. You could fill the 4 other sockets and have up to 128K of RAM. I think I had a device driver for this to emulate a storage drive or something like that. The info is in the EMPLANT manual (which I haven't read since I wrote it 25 years ago).

Irl · 08 April 2017, 18:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimDrew

The SRAM could be used for the Mac's PRAM. The jumper by the socket enables/disables the RAM. You could fill the 4 other sockets and have up to 128K of RAM. I think I had a device driver for this to emulate a storage drive or something like that. The info is in the EMPLANT manual (which I haven't read since I wrote it 25 years ago).

Thanks, Jim! Coincidentally, the chips I ordered on ebay were a pack of 5 so I will have enough to fill all sockets

29 March 2018, 18:12

About the diagnosis.
I have recently installed the card Emplant on an a2000-030-mmu.
Driver version 5.0 (1994). After finishing the installation, I can start HardLaunch_Mac (configure memory, Rom image, PortI / o, ect) and Start Emulator.
The EMPLAN logo appears and a diskette waiting for the OS.
But, the Diagnostic utility seems to have an error. When I execute it, a guru message appears (but yellow) "OS Error! Can't Open any screens".
Any solution?
The same thing happens with the MAC_HDsetup utility; same message.
Pressing any key returns to the WB.
Hope someone can help me.
Thank you very much.

30 March 2018, 09:58

All right. It seems that I have solved it. When leaving OS error message, I focused on it. Simply, the utility needs the monitor output in ntcs, so I have introduced in devs / monitors, ntcs drivers. Now the diagnostic utility works and also the MAC_HDsetup works. As Usual, it is good to read up to the last page of the manual

30 March 2018, 10:38

Now I can execute the card's diagnosis.
Surprise, mark three chips in poor condition.
One does not matter so much to me; Just like the question that IRL asks and opens this thread, the first bad is the ic just under the simm socket. I do not have that chip to insert, and I do not see it put on any photo on the web.
What worries me most, are the next two in bad condition, just the two that follow after the cr2032 battery.
When I start the emulator, it seems that everything is fine; At least no error message appears, and instead, the large logo "EMPLANT" and the image of the floppy disk with the question mark appear.
Is it normal? Will it affect the operation?
For now, I do not have system disks to test. I will look for where to get a 7.1 or similar, to continue with the project of making the emplant work.

JimDrew · 30 March 2018, 11:04

Yes, everything I made was for NTSC. So, it's not an option to have the NTSC monitor file in the DEVS:Monitors drawer.

If the SRAM is missing, it will shows as bad. The VIAs should all show as GOOD. If the SCC or SCSI chip is missing, they will show bad. I would pull the two chips that are to the right of the CR2032 battery and put them back in and see if they then work. Oxidation can cause bad contact.

Irl · 17 June 2018, 20:12

Just got my Amiga set back up after storing it for a move. I haven't had a chance to attempt to install an OS yet, but the chips I placed in the Emplant show up as "OK" in the diagnostics (in case anyone was wondering

).

JimDrew · 27 June 2018, 09:06

That's great... it still works!

04 April 2017, 03:09	#1
Irl Registered User Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Denver Posts: 76	Emplant Diagnostic It shows a chip with BAD status, but there is no chip in the socket. What would go there and should I try to find it? It also says all tests passed.. Attached Thumbnails

30 March 2018, 09:58	#11
Santi Posts: n/a	All right. It seems that I have solved it. When leaving OS error message, I focused on it. Simply, the utility needs the monitor output in ntcs, so I have introduced in devs / monitors, ntcs drivers. Now the diagnostic utility works and also the MAC_HDsetup works. As Usual, it is good to read up to the last page of the manual Last edited by Santi; 30 March 2018 at 10:27.

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04 April 2017, 15:32	#3
Irl Registered User Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Denver Posts: 76	No, the SIMM socket is the long, white slot above it :/

04 April 2017, 18:05	#4
Irl Registered User Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Denver Posts: 76	I found one on eBay that has the chip It is a "HM6264ALP-10" 8192-word x 8-bit High Speed CMOS Static RAM I wonder what CMOS is needed there.. I remember reading there was a BIOS for the e586dx, is that what the CMOS socket is for?

04 April 2017, 18:13	#5
Irl Registered User Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Denver Posts: 76	Reading the datasheet, it appears to be high-speed SRAM not a ROM... I went ahead and ordered a couple on eBay to test out. If it is just SRAM, then I don't have to worry about finding a binary for it at least. I still haven't gotten rsvrMEM or rsvrKick to work, so I haven't been able to get passed "Multitasking not enabled".

04 April 2017, 23:14	#6
emufan Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: #DrainTheSwamp Posts: 4,545	Jim Drew is a member here. send him a pm, he should know what to do or what to get.

08 April 2017, 01:12	#7
Irl Registered User Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Denver Posts: 76	I PM'd Jim, but I don't think he has been online to see it. I should receive the SRAM today and will post the results of testing with them.

08 April 2017, 06:11	#8
JimDrew Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Lake Havasu City, AZ Posts: 741	The SRAM could be used for the Mac's PRAM. The jumper by the socket enables/disables the RAM. You could fill the 4 other sockets and have up to 128K of RAM. I think I had a device driver for this to emulate a storage drive or something like that. The info is in the EMPLANT manual (which I haven't read since I wrote it 25 years ago).

29 March 2018, 18:12	#10
Santi Posts: n/a	About the diagnosis. I have recently installed the card Emplant on an a2000-030-mmu. Driver version 5.0 (1994). After finishing the installation, I can start HardLaunch_Mac (configure memory, Rom image, PortI / o, ect) and Start Emulator. The EMPLAN logo appears and a diskette waiting for the OS. But, the Diagnostic utility seems to have an error. When I execute it, a guru message appears (but yellow) "OS Error! Can't Open any screens". Any solution? The same thing happens with the MAC_HDsetup utility; same message. Pressing any key returns to the WB. Hope someone can help me. Thank you very much.

30 March 2018, 10:38	#12
Santi Posts: n/a	Now I can execute the card's diagnosis. Surprise, mark three chips in poor condition. One does not matter so much to me; Just like the question that IRL asks and opens this thread, the first bad is the ic just under the simm socket. I do not have that chip to insert, and I do not see it put on any photo on the web. What worries me most, are the next two in bad condition, just the two that follow after the cr2032 battery. When I start the emulator, it seems that everything is fine; At least no error message appears, and instead, the large logo "EMPLANT" and the image of the floppy disk with the question mark appear. Is it normal? Will it affect the operation? For now, I do not have system disks to test. I will look for where to get a 7.1 or similar, to continue with the project of making the emplant work.

30 March 2018, 11:04	#13
JimDrew Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Lake Havasu City, AZ Posts: 741	Yes, everything I made was for NTSC. So, it's not an option to have the NTSC monitor file in the DEVS:Monitors drawer. If the SRAM is missing, it will shows as bad. The VIAs should all show as GOOD. If the SCC or SCSI chip is missing, they will show bad. I would pull the two chips that are to the right of the CR2032 battery and put them back in and see if they then work. Oxidation can cause bad contact.

17 June 2018, 20:12	#14
Irl Registered User Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Denver Posts: 76	Just got my Amiga set back up after storing it for a move. I haven't had a chance to attempt to install an OS yet, but the chips I placed in the Emplant show up as "OK" in the diagnostics (in case anyone was wondering ).

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27 June 2018, 09:06	#15
JimDrew Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Lake Havasu City, AZ Posts: 741	That's great... it still works!