Unreal

ilm · 26 May 2001, 15:34

I heard that it is a very good game
is it really so good ?
if so -> where can I download it ?

Thanks in advance

Tim Janssen · 29 May 2001, 13:09

Unreal is a great game programmed by Belgian Appeal Software who also brought us No Never Outside, Iron Lord and Agony on Amiga and No Respect & Outcast on PC.

The game is divided in two parts: In the odd levels you fly on the back of a red dragon. It is a 3D into-the-screen type affair. In other levels the game turns into a side-scrolling beat'em-up/ platform game with beautiful graphics and sounds.
I was always very fond of this game. Pity the disc it came on went corrupt.

On this site you can download Unreal for emulator. I do not know whether this version works, though.

Amiga1992 · 29 May 2001, 17:56

This is a good case of complete eyecandy... The game was not as good as it looked, really, just as Agony was an okayish (tending to be below average) game, while it looked completely amazing.

It's worth a look, however, I do nto know if it works in any emu. I Couldn't get it to work.

Tim Janssen · 30 May 2001, 07:55

No Never Outside (NNO) is a text adventure with nice graphics programmed somewhere in 1987. I do not exactly know what the game is about.
In the Dutch/Belgian magazine PC Gameplay of August 1997 I read an interview with Appeal Software. The programmers mentioned NNO was their first commercial game written for both C64 and Amiga.
I have played NNO only on C64, though. The game came on 4 C64 floppies and is a pain to load on C64 emulators.

Jambo · 30 May 2001, 14:37

Unreal can be downloaded as a HD-Upgrade for Amiga in a Box.

You'll need to download AIAB, get a wb 3.x disk and a kick 3.x rom, then get unreal off the downloads page

ilm · 30 May 2001, 19:16

seems there is a crc error in the zip file from Amiga in a box (the init file)

Twistin'Ghost · 01 June 2001, 11:33

Tim...back to NNO again. Do you know who published the game? Was it in English?

As for Agony (the Psygnosis one, I assume you mean), I thought that game was developed by Art & Magic. Are you sure they did the Amiga version of this game?

Tim Janssen · 01 June 2001, 12:00

I have just found the Appeal Company Profile.
To my horror I just have discovered No, Never Outside was only published on C64 by Lankhor

. The game is in English, though.

Art & Magic is one of the names they have used. Under this name they published many games in the Arcades which looked very, very Amiga-esque. Me and my friends were always saying there was an Amiga hidden in the Arcade Cabinet. I am lucky that I have played their games Spellsinger and Western Shooting in the Arcades. -Great fun!

Twistin'Ghost · 01 June 2001, 12:17

OK, I am answering my own question(s) here:

The actual full title is "No (Never Outside!)" and was published in 1989 by Lankhor. But on the Amiga? Maybe not. This info I found on the Lankhor web site www.lankhor.com - but delving deeper to the Appeal web site www.appeal.be indicates that they developed the C64 version only, followed by the Amiga version of "Iron Lord" (converted from the C64), then Unreal, and finally Agony.

As for the Art & Magic question, the Appeal team formed in 1992 Art & Magic for the purpose of developing coin-op arcade games, so while there is a pointer to them, it doesn't appear that Agony was developed under that moniker. The Art & Magic site is at www.art-magic.be

The puzzling thing for me is that they claim to have formed in the summer of '95. So I have to assume that they were not a 'named' team back then. They're not listed on the credits for "Iron Lord", "Unreal" I haven't been able to emulate (I could try harder...) and likewise for "Agony" (I am lazy with Amiga emulators).

Removed screenshot

Twistin'Ghost · 01 June 2001, 12:19

Hehehe...I guess you were replying while I was replying and you beat me to the punch!

Mangar · 01 June 2001, 13:09

Art & Magic are indeed listed as the developers in Agony. Dunno about the others tho

Twistin'Ghost · 01 June 2001, 18:23

Well, I knew I had them listed in my database as the team for that game, but couldn't get it booted in emulation to verify. Interesting that their site doesn't address this curious crossover. My guess is they used the name, expecting it to represent their game dev team, then a year later, moved on to the coin-op thing and kept the name for that project.

Mangar · 01 June 2001, 18:49

agony works fine with winfellow.. the HD version also works fine in winuae.. I believe the cracktro is the culprit with the adf version

Warlock99 · 21 June 2001, 06:52

Just wanted to say Outcast is great! I know it's a pc games, but it's just so ambitious and totally immersive. Loved that game: )

It's one of those games that just grabs you and won't let you go until you've finished it. I Lived that game when I bought it for a couple of weeks (in fact I didn't want to finish it, it was like living another life). (http://www.outcast-game.com/)

It's one of the few pc games that I actually rushed out and bought when it was released. Can't wait for outcast 2! (http://www.outcastii.net/).

Sorry, couldn't resist that! No, I don't work for infogrames.

[akira] I changed the URL, it was wrong [/akira]

icycool · 21 June 2001, 09:45

Unreal was published by UBISoft, i don't know about the Belgian bit tho ;p.. Also, i thought the dragon sequence was very well programmed, and no at all dodgy as most people seem to think.

Amiga1992 · 21 June 2001, 17:54

Oi, Tim! How come you played Spellsinger, when Art and Magic claim that teh game was NEVER released?

Quote:

this heroic-fantasy game never came out ! However, the extreme beauty of the backgrounds and the quality of its design are quite interesting, even today four years after

http://www.art-magic.be/spell.htm

Either you are confusing the names, or you are one mad pir8

Tim Janssen · 22 June 2001, 10:18

Akira, I am really puzzled..

I was (and I am still) quite sure I have played this game by Art & Magic in 1995 in the arcades. It was a cross between a shmup and platform game, looked very Manga-like and featured many 'underwater' levels. It was also difficult to play. -I soon lost my interest in it. I am 100% sure the game featured the Art & Magic logo and the screenshots of Spellsinger look most like how I remember the game.

MethodGit · 22 June 2001, 16:24

It doesn't appear to be emulatable in MAME yet, but why don't you try the message boards at Mame.net and ask them if they could try and find the game and "MAMEitise" it?

I'm not sure if there are small sites talking about the arcade game that exist though. You could try searching for one on Yahoo or Google etc. or something...

Amiga1992 · 22 June 2001, 18:40

The KLOV (Killer List of Videogames) should have an entry for the A&M games. Now what was the URL? :P Duh, easy one:

http://www.klov.com/

They DON'T have an enrty for the game. Let's try another game, like their supposedly popular Tennis....

Yep, Ultimate Tennis appears. Here's info:

http://www.klov.com/U/Ultimate_Tennis.html

Stoneball, Western Shooting and Spellsinger do not have entries in the database. This does not mean they don't exist, though.

Cheese Chase and Ultimate Tennis do appear.

Being that they developed their very own arcade hardware, i doubt it's emulated in MAME, or if it will be. Seems to be obscure. I will ask them about how the hardware is, I'm interested. It could be some Amiga crossbreed as you always thought, Tim. I bet that, at least, it will have a 680x0 processor.

Oh well, I'll try to contact these guys. Rare games are what I like

Fred the Fop · 27 September 2001, 19:39

Twist and anyone else: I have to ask if you still have problems with Unreal or Agony. Have youse been able to emulate them? I have installed Unreal on my WinUAE HD, so if you want, I'll post it and the config. It works perfecly. As for Agony, Akira, it is not just eye candy. True, it breaks no new ground...but ever play a shooter, and it feels..losse? Controls, orientation..those are essential factors in th playing of any shooter. Agony addresses this very well. And it works under OCS 13 config found at BTTR. Both games are fine under 8.14r3.

26 May 2001, 15:34	#1
ilm Zone Friend Join Date: May 2001 Location: Belgium Age: 39 Posts: 54	Unreal I heard that it is a very good game is it really so good ? if so -> where can I download it ? Thanks in advance

29 May 2001, 13:09	#2
Tim Janssen Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Den Bosch / The Netherlands Age: 47 Posts: 1,271	Unreal is a graphic feast Unreal is a great game programmed by Belgian Appeal Software who also brought us No Never Outside, Iron Lord and Agony on Amiga and No Respect & Outcast on PC. The game is divided in two parts: In the odd levels you fly on the back of a red dragon. It is a 3D into-the-screen type affair. In other levels the game turns into a side-scrolling beat'em-up/ platform game with beautiful graphics and sounds. I was always very fond of this game. Pity the disc it came on went corrupt. On this site you can download Unreal for emulator. I do not know whether this version works, though.

30 May 2001, 07:55	#4
Tim Janssen Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Den Bosch / The Netherlands Age: 47 Posts: 1,271	About "No Never Outside" No Never Outside (NNO) is a text adventure with nice graphics programmed somewhere in 1987. I do not exactly know what the game is about. In the Dutch/Belgian magazine PC Gameplay of August 1997 I read an interview with Appeal Software. The programmers mentioned NNO was their first commercial game written for both C64 and Amiga. I have played NNO only on C64, though. The game came on 4 C64 floppies and is a pain to load on C64 emulators.

30 May 2001, 14:37	#5
Jambo Yarr! Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: n. A place where something is or could be located; a site. Age: 48 Posts: 112	Unreal Unreal can be downloaded as a HD-Upgrade for Amiga in a Box. You'll need to download AIAB, get a wb 3.x disk and a kick 3.x rom, then get unreal off the downloads page

01 June 2001, 11:33	#7
Twistin'Ghost Give up the ghost Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U$A Age: 33 Posts: 4,662	No Never Outside Tim...back to NNO again. Do you know who published the game? Was it in English? As for Agony (the Psygnosis one, I assume you mean), I thought that game was developed by Art & Magic. Are you sure they did the Amiga version of this game?

29 May 2001, 17:56	#3
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	This is a good case of complete eyecandy... The game was not as good as it looked, really, just as Agony was an okayish (tending to be below average) game, while it looked completely amazing. It's worth a look, however, I do nto know if it works in any emu. I Couldn't get it to work.

30 May 2001, 19:16	#6
ilm Zone Friend Join Date: May 2001 Location: Belgium Age: 39 Posts: 54	seems there is a crc error in the zip file from Amiga in a box (the init file)

01 June 2001, 12:00	#8
Tim Janssen Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Den Bosch / The Netherlands Age: 47 Posts: 1,271	Appeal Company Profile I have just found the Appeal Company Profile. To my horror I just have discovered No, Never Outside was only published on C64 by Lankhor . The game is in English, though. Art & Magic is one of the names they have used. Under this name they published many games in the Arcades which looked very, very Amiga-esque. Me and my friends were always saying there was an Amiga hidden in the Arcade Cabinet. I am lucky that I have played their games Spellsinger and Western Shooting in the Arcades. -Great fun!

01 June 2001, 12:17	#9
Twistin'Ghost Give up the ghost Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U$A Age: 33 Posts: 4,662	Never Say NNO OK, I am answering my own question(s) here: The actual full title is "No (Never Outside!)" and was published in 1989 by Lankhor. But on the Amiga? Maybe not. This info I found on the Lankhor web site www.lankhor.com - but delving deeper to the Appeal web site www.appeal.be indicates that they developed the C64 version only, followed by the Amiga version of "Iron Lord" (converted from the C64), then Unreal, and finally Agony. As for the Art & Magic question, the Appeal team formed in 1992 Art & Magic for the purpose of developing coin-op arcade games, so while there is a pointer to them, it doesn't appear that Agony was developed under that moniker. The Art & Magic site is at www.art-magic.be The puzzling thing for me is that they claim to have formed in the summer of '95. So I have to assume that they were not a 'named' team back then. They're not listed on the credits for "Iron Lord", "Unreal" I haven't been able to emulate (I could try harder...) and likewise for "Agony" (I am lazy with Amiga emulators). Removed screenshot Last edited by Ian; 27 October 2001 at 01:24.

01 June 2001, 12:19	#10
Twistin'Ghost Give up the ghost Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U$A Age: 33 Posts: 4,662	Hehehe...I guess you were replying while I was replying and you beat me to the punch!

01 June 2001, 13:09	#11
Mangar Got the fever back Join Date: May 2001 Location: Toronto / Canada Age: 52 Posts: 288	Art & Magic are indeed listed as the developers in Agony. Dunno about the others tho

01 June 2001, 18:23	#12
Twistin'Ghost Give up the ghost Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U$A Age: 33 Posts: 4,662	A&M Well, I knew I had them listed in my database as the team for that game, but couldn't get it booted in emulation to verify. Interesting that their site doesn't address this curious crossover. My guess is they used the name, expecting it to represent their game dev team, then a year later, moved on to the coin-op thing and kept the name for that project.

01 June 2001, 18:49	#13
Mangar Got the fever back Join Date: May 2001 Location: Toronto / Canada Age: 52 Posts: 288	agony works fine with winfellow.. the HD version also works fine in winuae.. I believe the cracktro is the culprit with the adf version

21 June 2001, 06:52	#14
Warlock99 Webmaster of AmigaRarities Join Date: May 2001 Location: Liverpool / UK Age: 52 Posts: 222	Outcast Just wanted to say Outcast is great! I know it's a pc games, but it's just so ambitious and totally immersive. Loved that game: ) It's one of those games that just grabs you and won't let you go until you've finished it. I Lived that game when I bought it for a couple of weeks (in fact I didn't want to finish it, it was like living another life). (http://www.outcast-game.com/) It's one of the few pc games that I actually rushed out and bought when it was released. Can't wait for outcast 2! (http://www.outcastii.net/). Sorry, couldn't resist that! No, I don't work for infogrames. [akira] I changed the URL, it was wrong [/akira] Last edited by Amiga1992; 21 June 2001 at 17:24.

21 June 2001, 09:45	#15
icycool Banned Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Melbourne/Australia Age: 50 Posts: 203	Unreal was published by UBISoft, i don't know about the Belgian bit tho ;p.. Also, i thought the dragon sequence was very well programmed, and no at all dodgy as most people seem to think.

22 June 2001, 10:18	#17
Tim Janssen Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Den Bosch / The Netherlands Age: 47 Posts: 1,271	I am quite sure about Spellsinger Akira, I am really puzzled.. I was (and I am still) quite sure I have played this game by Art & Magic in 1995 in the arcades. It was a cross between a shmup and platform game, looked very Manga-like and featured many 'underwater' levels. It was also difficult to play. -I soon lost my interest in it. I am 100% sure the game featured the Art & Magic logo and the screenshots of Spellsinger look most like how I remember the game.

22 June 2001, 16:24	#18
MethodGit Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Streets Age: 39 Posts: 2,731	You want to look at the arcade version? It doesn't appear to be emulatable in MAME yet, but why don't you try the message boards at Mame.net and ask them if they could try and find the game and "MAMEitise" it? I'm not sure if there are small sites talking about the arcade game that exist though. You could try searching for one on Yahoo or Google etc. or something...

22 June 2001, 18:40	#19
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	The KLOV (Killer List of Videogames) should have an entry for the A&M games. Now what was the URL? :P Duh, easy one: http://www.klov.com/ They DON'T have an enrty for the game. Let's try another game, like their supposedly popular Tennis.... Yep, Ultimate Tennis appears. Here's info: http://www.klov.com/U/Ultimate_Tennis.html Stoneball, Western Shooting and Spellsinger do not have entries in the database. This does not mean they don't exist, though. Cheese Chase and Ultimate Tennis do appear. Being that they developed their very own arcade hardware, i doubt it's emulated in MAME, or if it will be. Seems to be obscure. I will ask them about how the hardware is, I'm interested. It could be some Amiga crossbreed as you always thought, Tim. I bet that, at least, it will have a 680x0 processor. Oh well, I'll try to contact these guys. Rare games are what I like

27 September 2001, 19:39	#20
Fred the Fop flaming faggot Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Versailles Age: 55 Posts: 2,808	Twist and anyone else: I have to ask if you still have problems with Unreal or Agony. Have youse been able to emulate them? I have installed Unreal on my WinUAE HD, so if you want, I'll post it and the config. It works perfecly. As for Agony, Akira, it is not just eye candy. True, it breaks no new ground...but ever play a shooter, and it feels..losse? Controls, orientation..those are essential factors in th playing of any shooter. Agony addresses this very well. And it works under OCS 13 config found at BTTR. Both games are fine under 8.14r3.

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