FireForce on 1200

pubzombie · 08 February 2009, 02:46

Hi peeps,
I am trying to run Fireforce on my 1200 from floppy with little success. is it not 1200 compatible without whdload (i have tried booting as a 500) or do i have a bad image? just wondered if anybody else running it with no problems.
cheers
PZ

Yoto · 08 February 2009, 03:10

Try to press both mouse buttons at A1200 startup, before the KS image appear, and change the display mode from AGA to OCS or ECS (if i remember correctly, dont use the boot in ages).
If that dosent work you will need a degrader, its a simple utility disk to replace your KS 3.1 with KS 1.3 until Hard Reset.

pubzombie · 08 February 2009, 03:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yotoxionomai

Try to press both mouse buttons at A1200 startup, before the KS image appear, and change the display mode from AGA to OCS or ECS (if i remember correctly, dont use the boot in ages).
If that dosent work you will need a degrader, its a simple utility disk to replace your KS 3.1 with KS 1.3 until Hard Reset.

yep tried it. do you know where I can get a boot degrader ? is it possible to download one from the zone or a website,
thank you for all your help Yotoxionomai
pz

Yoto · 08 February 2009, 03:21

Aminet i guess, the degrader.lha:
http://aminet.net/search?query=degrader

pubzombie · 08 February 2009, 03:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yotoxionomai

Aminet i guess, the degrader.lha:
http://aminet.net/search?query=degrader

ahh i need one of these to fit on a floppy as i dont yet have a HDD. theses are lha files can i put these on floppy
cheers
Pz

pubzombie · 08 February 2009, 16:47

yay found one

Galahad/FLT · 08 February 2009, 18:34

Fire Force doesn't work on A1200 because of the useless stepper routine in the fileloader, several AGA fixes are about of it, shouldn't be too hard to locate.

pubzombie · 08 February 2009, 18:48

jeeze i cant seem to find one for adf or cd32 if anybody can point me in the right direction would be grateful
cheers
pz

DamienD · 08 February 2009, 19:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by pubzombie

jeeze i cant seem to find one for adf or cd32 if anybody can point me in the right direction would be grateful
cheers
pz

From the filenames in TOSEC I can't see any AGA fixed versions. This is not to say that one of them doesn't have this applied though, haven't tested personally:

... Fire Force (1992)(I.C.E.)(Disk 1 of 2).adf
... Fire Force (1992)(I.C.E.)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr QTX].adf
... Fire Force (1992)(I.C.E.)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr QTX][t +21 ATX].adf
... Fire Force (1992)(I.C.E.)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr TSL][t +18 TSL].adf
... Fire Force (1992)(I.C.E.)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr TSL][t +18 TSL][a].adf
... Fire Force (1992)(I.C.E.)(Disk 1 of 2)[WB].adf
... Fire Force (1992)(I.C.E.)(Disk 2 of 2).adf
... Fire Force (1992)(I.C.E.)(Disk 2 of 2)[a].adf
... Fire Force (1992)(I.C.E.)(Disk 2 of 2)[a2].adf
... Fire Force (1992)(I.C.E.)(Disk 2 of 2)[cr QTX][t +21 ATX].adf
... Fire Force (1992)(I.C.E.)(Disk 2 of 2)[cr TSL][t +18 TSL].adf

Anyway, I've uploaded the CD32 version to The Zone! for you

Retro-Nerd · 08 February 2009, 19:10

None of this versions seems to be fixed for AGA, as you already said. Isn't Relokick working here?

pubzombie · 08 February 2009, 20:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

From the filenames in TOSEC I can't see any AGA fixed versions. This is not to say that one of them doesn't have this applied though, haven't tested personally:

... Fire Force (1992)(I.C.E.)(Disk 1 of 2).adf
... Fire Force (1992)(I.C.E.)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr QTX].adf
... Fire Force (1992)(I.C.E.)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr QTX][t +21 ATX].adf
... Fire Force (1992)(I.C.E.)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr TSL][t +18 TSL].adf
... Fire Force (1992)(I.C.E.)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr TSL][t +18 TSL][a].adf
... Fire Force (1992)(I.C.E.)(Disk 1 of 2)[WB].adf
... Fire Force (1992)(I.C.E.)(Disk 2 of 2).adf
... Fire Force (1992)(I.C.E.)(Disk 2 of 2)[a].adf
... Fire Force (1992)(I.C.E.)(Disk 2 of 2)[a2].adf
... Fire Force (1992)(I.C.E.)(Disk 2 of 2)[cr QTX][t +21 ATX].adf
... Fire Force (1992)(I.C.E.)(Disk 2 of 2)[cr TSL][t +18 TSL].adf

Anyway, I've uploaded the CD32 version to The Zone! for you

been through these - I think, most anyway - and cant find one that works. its been an afternoons work cooking all those adf's.
I cooked 2 different relokicks to adf disk but niether seemed to cook on HD or DD disk, giving me bad sectors, so have bit the bullet and purchased one of ebrobber.
gggrrrrrrr
its a good job i like my loft and have given up smoking -- where's the gin

will go try zone version - cheers my friend nice one DamienD
pz

pubzombie · 08 February 2009, 20:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

From the filenames in TOSEC I can't see any AGA fixed versions. This is not to say that one of them doesn't have this applied though, haven't tested personally:

... Fire Force (1992)(I.C.E.)(Disk 1 of 2).adf
... Fire Force (1992)(I.C.E.)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr QTX].adf
... Fire Force (1992)(I.C.E.)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr QTX][t +21 ATX].adf
... Fire Force (1992)(I.C.E.)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr TSL][t +18 TSL].adf
... Fire Force (1992)(I.C.E.)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr TSL][t +18 TSL][a].adf
... Fire Force (1992)(I.C.E.)(Disk 1 of 2)[WB].adf
... Fire Force (1992)(I.C.E.)(Disk 2 of 2).adf
... Fire Force (1992)(I.C.E.)(Disk 2 of 2)[a].adf
... Fire Force (1992)(I.C.E.)(Disk 2 of 2)[a2].adf
... Fire Force (1992)(I.C.E.)(Disk 2 of 2)[cr QTX][t +21 ATX].adf
... Fire Force (1992)(I.C.E.)(Disk 2 of 2)[cr TSL][t +18 TSL].adf

Anyway, I've uploaded the CD32 version to The Zone! for you

Hi DamienD,
this is an ISO file is there a way of running it? I dont have a HDD yet but I do have an pcmcia flash card
cheers
PZ

mai · 08 February 2009, 20:30

I am not able to find any AGA-fixed version, probably an AGA-fix for this game was never released.

pubzombie · 08 February 2009, 20:39

ok thanx for your time though guys
pz

DamienD · 08 February 2009, 20:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by pubzombie

Hi DamienD,
this is an ISO file is there a way of running it? I dont have a HDD yet but I do have an pcmcia flash card
cheers
PZ

Oops, forgot that you use a real Amiga and not WinUAE.

You could try using the HiSoft Squirrel CD32 emulator. See these threads for more details:

... Asim CD32 emulator - how to use it?
... why not microcosm (page 3 mainly)

File is back in The Zone! for you

pubzombie · 08 February 2009, 21:21

ok cheers this is going to be interesting - I need a scuzzy cd?
pz

Galahad/FLT · 08 February 2009, 21:24

Both myself and NOMAD did an AGA fix for this game, if you can't find it, i'll refix it, its a simple stepper fix for the loader, its all that stops it working.

Relockick won't do a damn thing.

DamienD · 08 February 2009, 21:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by pubzombie

ok cheers this is going to be interesting - I need a scuzzy cd?
pz

Not according to posts in the first thread I linked to, IDE will work fine

pubzombie · 08 February 2009, 21:28

ok cheers Galahad/FLT
that will be cool thanx - I used to love this game back in the 1990s.
the squirrel cd32 emulator can i run it somehow from my pcmcia flash card?
PZ

Retro1234 · 09 February 2009, 10:59

I havent looked at the CD32 version it might work with assigns?
Ive uploaded to the Zone a edited Squirrel boot disk I use It will boot file "GAME.ISO" from pcmcia CF - And seemed to work with FireForce.

EDIT:Script needed editing hopefuly works in the zone

:Nice trick found by FOL and hold down fire for some options ; )

08 February 2009, 02:46	#1
pubzombie Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: westmids Posts: 900	FireForce on 1200 Hi peeps, I am trying to run Fireforce on my 1200 from floppy with little success. is it not 1200 compatible without whdload (i have tried booting as a 500) or do i have a bad image? just wondered if anybody else running it with no problems. cheers PZ

09 February 2009, 10:59	#20
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,812	I havent looked at the CD32 version it might work with assigns? Ive uploaded to the Zone a edited Squirrel boot disk I use It will boot file "GAME.ISO" from pcmcia CF - And seemed to work with FireForce. EDIT:Script needed editing hopefuly works in the zone :Nice trick found by FOL and hold down fire for some options ; ) Last edited by Retro1234; 09 February 2009 at 11:40.

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08 February 2009, 03:10	#2
Yoto 1 Potato to Spam´em all! Join Date: May 2008 Location: Lost in a Wine Country Age: 48 Posts: 572	Try to press both mouse buttons at A1200 startup, before the KS image appear, and change the display mode from AGA to OCS or ECS (if i remember correctly, dont use the boot in ages). If that dosent work you will need a degrader, its a simple utility disk to replace your KS 3.1 with KS 1.3 until Hard Reset.

08 February 2009, 03:21	#4
Yoto 1 Potato to Spam´em all! Join Date: May 2008 Location: Lost in a Wine Country Age: 48 Posts: 572	Aminet i guess, the degrader.lha: http://aminet.net/search?query=degrader

08 February 2009, 16:47	#6
pubzombie Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: westmids Posts: 900	yay found one

08 February 2009, 18:34	#7
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 9,016	Fire Force doesn't work on A1200 because of the useless stepper routine in the fileloader, several AGA fixes are about of it, shouldn't be too hard to locate.

08 February 2009, 18:48	#8
pubzombie Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: westmids Posts: 900	jeeze i cant seem to find one for adf or cd32 if anybody can point me in the right direction would be grateful cheers pz

08 February 2009, 19:10	#10
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,457	None of this versions seems to be fixed for AGA, as you already said. Isn't Relokick working here?

08 February 2009, 20:30	#13
mai Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Federativnaya Respublika Germaniya Posts: 4,994	I am not able to find any AGA-fixed version, probably an AGA-fix for this game was never released.

08 February 2009, 20:39	#14
pubzombie Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: westmids Posts: 900	ok thanx for your time though guys pz

08 February 2009, 21:21	#16
pubzombie Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: westmids Posts: 900	ok cheers this is going to be interesting - I need a scuzzy cd? pz

08 February 2009, 21:24	#17
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 9,016	Both myself and NOMAD did an AGA fix for this game, if you can't find it, i'll refix it, its a simple stepper fix for the loader, its all that stops it working. Relockick won't do a damn thing.

08 February 2009, 21:28	#19
pubzombie Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: westmids Posts: 900	ok cheers Galahad/FLT that will be cool thanx - I used to love this game back in the 1990s. the squirrel cd32 emulator can i run it somehow from my pcmcia flash card? PZ

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