Squamble background collision not working

[sahowe1]

Hi,

Playing PD game Sqamble. Everything is fine apart from the ship doesn't collide with the ground, has anyone got any idea if there is a WINUAE setting I should try.

This is the latest WINUAE 4.9.1 - KS1.3, OCS, with collision set to full.

Thanks.

[Cobe]

Find "collision level" in chipset setting and thick full.

[sahowe1]

Originally Posted by Cobe

Find "collision level" in chipset setting and thick full.

Already tried this.

The last winuae I tried it on was 3.2.2 and it didn't work then either.

This was the first game I played on my shiny new Amiga 1500 back in '92 so I'd really like to play it once again!

[amilo3438]

Just checked in the last official winuae 4.9.1 (QS A500 1.3 512+512 with chipset/collision level = Full) and its not working!? (last fine on winuae 4.9.0)

[Mclane]

Tried it with the last beta beta 0 and no collision with ground no matter what you set..

Nice find..

[Zarnal]

Confirmed.

[R-TEAM]

similar problem ....
No collision from the player sprite to anything (weapons/enemys)


http://aminet.net/game/shoot/galactoid.lha


Regards

[Zarnal]

Originally Posted by R-TEAM

similar problem ....
No collision from the player sprite to anything (weapons/enemys)


http://aminet.net/game/shoot/galactoid.lha


Regards

Exact. Since 4.9.0.

[sahowe1]

I just tried Squamble on 4.9.0 and the collision works perfectly! Thanks everyone

[Zarnal]

Originally Posted by sahowe1

I just tried Squamble on 4.9.0 and the collision works perfectly! Thanks everyone

Yes, but they no longer work with WinUae 4.9.1 (latest official version).

You have therefore discovered a new technical issue.

[sahowe1]

Originally Posted by Zarnal

Yes, but they no longer work with WinUae 4.9.1 (latest official version).

You have therefore discovered a new technical issue.

Yes agreed, actually after checking moving left (backwards) doesn't work correctly on Squamble in 4.9.0 but did work in 4.9.1

[Zarnal]

Yes, the real problem with this game is that the collisions with the bottom of screen not currently work with WinUae 4.9.1 even in "Full" level collision mode.

[Zarnal]

We (AF) will be testing a real A500 soon (Squamble and Galactoid).

I will let you know as soon as they are finished.

[Toni Wilen]

Statefile that shows the problem almost immediately would be nice
(still working with UAE 68000 IPL accuracy, not much time for anything else until it is done)

[Zarnal]

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Statefile that shows the problem almost immediately would be nice
(still working with UAE 68000 IPL accuracy, not much time for anything else until it is done)

Here are the statefiles:


Squamble : Collisions in red zone do not work. The ship enters the red background instead of exploding (Collision Level Full required). Since WinUae 4.9.1.



Galactoid : Alien shots have no effect on the ship. Same thing for the aliens that collide with the ship. Other collisions are working.
Note: The glitch ( it's other thing with this game ) on the left may be normal in OCS (I will see during the hardware test) because it is not present with ECS Agnus. Since WinUae 4.9.0.

[Toni Wilen]

Fixed. There was 2 bugs.

- sprite to bitplane collisions didn't work if display hdiw was "always on" (end position out of range).
- bitplane to bitplane collision only worked if same scanline had at least one enabled sprite.

I did test it with game Rotor which uses bitplane to bitplane collisions but unfortunately part of player ship is made from sprites..

[Mclane]

Hi Tony, are these fixes incorporated in the non beta beta ie

https://download.abime.net/winuae/files/b/winuae.7z

I checked the latest one with a timestamp of 15:58 yesterday but Squamble still not registering collision. Apologies if the fix is not in that version. I know it's not exactly an item that's top of your list at the moment.

[Zarnal]

Originally Posted by Mclane

Hi Tony, are these fixes incorporated in the non beta beta ie

https://download.abime.net/winuae/files/b/winuae.7z

I checked the latest one with a timestamp of 15:58 yesterday but Squamble still not registering collision. Apologies if the fix is not in that version.

All is ok for me with latest dev version.

Have you actived " Full Level Collisions " ( Chipset menu ) in your config ? It's required with this game. Standard Quickstart A500 is not enough.

[Mclane]

Same link as in my post?

I'm still getting the 15:58 one...

Not the end of the world

Thanks..

[Mclane]

Ack, that could be the case, I forgot as standard it does not set it to full...Will test...Thanks for the tip!

Edit: Yup, that fixed it...My memory is getting bad...Thank you!