Help needed with PCMCIA WLAN card

KONEY · 27 March 2017, 14:52

I'm trying to get this new card working on my A600 + Vampire2 with kick 3.1: http://www.ebay.it/itm/132123902138

The problem is when I boot the Amiga with the card inserted: the workbench would freeze before finishing LOADWB. I've got another pcmcia, not wireless, which works properly. I don't know exactly when it freezes because I can't do anything after. I tried to run snoopdos during boot and I see the firmware is loaded (prism2 is Installed correctly)

any suggestion? could it be a software problem or hardware? Anyone else had this problems?

Thanks in advance

idrougge · 27 March 2017, 17:15

Insert it after booting.

KONEY · 28 March 2017, 01:09

thanks, I also figured it out myself and made a test. Now I can load into the WB but as soon as I perform any action on the card it hangs Miami. I tried "Query device" and "go online", same results

I wonder if the card is faulty or what. Also, PrepCard reckognizes the hardware displaying its name and version so now I'm even more puzzled :/

idrougge · 28 March 2017, 09:36

What does Wirelessmanager say?

Sir_Lucas · 28 March 2017, 13:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by KONEY

I'm trying to get this new card working on my A600 + Vampire2 with kick 3.1: http://www.ebay.it/itm/132123902138

The problem is when I boot the Amiga with the card inserted: the workbench would freeze before finishing LOADWB. I've got another pcmcia, not wireless, which works properly. I don't know exactly when it freezes because I can't do anything after. I tried to run snoopdos during boot and I see the firmware is loaded (prism2 is Installed correctly)

any suggestion? could it be a software problem or hardware? Anyone else had this problems?

Thanks in advance

I know that A600 does not need it. However, have you tried adding CardPatch and CardReset to your S-s?

Have you tried disabling WirelessManager from your U-s and then trying to run it mannually from CLI to see if it associates with your router correctly?

KONEY · 28 March 2017, 14:17

yes I have both of them and yes I also am not sure they're needed on A600. I'll try running the manager and see if there's some feedback, thanks.

Sir_Lucas · 28 March 2017, 14:21

First disable WirelessManager from your U-s and then type in:

C:WirelessManager prism2.device

in your CLI

you can also try the Verbose option.

C:WirelessManager prism2.device VERBOSE

Let me know of the outcome.

KONEY · 29 March 2017, 00:44

I think I'm going somewhere because WirelessManager says he can find my network. Probably I need to configure it before, like with pw etc.

Sir_Lucas · 29 March 2017, 02:01

Yes, there's some progress.
What does C:WirelessManager prism2.device VERBOSE show?

KONEY · 29 March 2017, 09:20

sometimes a lot of things and sometimes what you see in picture. But in this case i realize now that maybe it's freezed. I'll try to make another picture with the full output somehow...

Sir_Lucas · 29 March 2017, 10:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by KONEY

sometimes a lot of things and sometimes what you see in picture. But in this case i realize now that maybe it's freezed. I'll try to make another picture with the full output somehow...

Try both and show the result here:

C:WirelessManager prism2.device

and

C:WirelessManager prism2.device VERBOSE

Sir_Lucas · 29 March 2017, 19:31

I've noticed one more thing. The card you've bought is a clone of ORINOCO GOLD.
Orinoco Gold supports only WPA/TKIP. It does not work with WPA2 or AES mode. It cannot work in mixed mode as well. Is your router set into WPA/TKIP mode ONLY? Can you check that as well?

KONEY · 03 April 2017, 18:12

hi, sorry my late response i've been away from the amiga for a while. Still need to grab that wirelessmanager output but I've been checking my router and it says: "Modalità cifratura:WPA-PSK TKIP-AES 256 bit" so it seems to be in the mode you mentioned... so now I'm trying some different settings! thanks!

KONEY · 03 April 2017, 22:04

I managed to authenticate by changing my router settings the way you suggested. But what I learn is that regardless of the settings inside wireless.prefs wirelessmanager would either stop at the point shown in the picture I already posted or run past that point showing a lot of informations about networks etc. which I've not been able to grab yet because the Amiga locks (mouse works but I can't do nothing). This is random, most of the times I just can't get past the shown point but sometimes I run into the big info stream (I keep trying to grab it)

tolkien · 03 April 2017, 23:36

Cardpatch and cardreset are nor needed in a a600.
I had to remove them in a a600 with vampire cos they did strange things.

Sir_Lucas · 04 April 2017, 00:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by KONEY

hi, sorry my late response i've been away from the amiga for a while. Still need to grab that wirelessmanager output but I've been checking my router and it says: "Modalità cifratura:WPA-PSK TKIP-AES 256 bit" so it seems to be in the mode you mentioned... so now I'm trying some different settings! thanks!

These are not the settings that I suggested. They are WPA/TKIP-AES.
You have to set it up WPA/TKIP only. No mixed mode, no auto.
Remember to put it also into B/G mode or B/G/N mode.
Can you set up a really simple SSID and PASSWORD? Just to test it and then delete your wireless.prefs and install the prism2v2 drivers once again?

Remember to decativate WirelessManager from your User-startup.

Sir_Lucas · 04 April 2017, 10:42

My video with WPA2/AES card connecting to router

This is how it should look like. Note, this video is made with a WPA2/AES card.

KONEY · 04 April 2017, 11:12

I get basically the same output, I get authenticated but afterwards the Amiga locks and I can't even start Miami. I'll do more tests anyway.

Sir_Lucas · 04 April 2017, 12:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by KONEY

I get basically the same output, I get authenticated but afterwards the Amiga locks and I can't even start Miami. I'll do more tests anyway.

That's good then. You've got association with your router.
About these locks. Maybe, capacitors or weak PSU?

KONEY · 04 April 2017, 19:13

Good point, I changed PSU with a ATX one which is far more powerful but with no luck. Maybe capacitors... However at this point things got worse: no matter what I put in the cfg file, anytime I launch WirelessManager it freezes and locks the Amiga as I mentioned

27 March 2017, 14:52	#1
KONEY OctaMED Music Composer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Venice - Italy Age: 49 Posts: 672	Help needed with PCMCIA WLAN card I'm trying to get this new card working on my A600 + Vampire2 with kick 3.1: http://www.ebay.it/itm/132123902138 The problem is when I boot the Amiga with the card inserted: the workbench would freeze before finishing LOADWB. I've got another pcmcia, not wireless, which works properly. I don't know exactly when it freezes because I can't do anything after. I tried to run snoopdos during boot and I see the firmware is loaded (prism2 is Installed correctly) any suggestion? could it be a software problem or hardware? Anyone else had this problems? Thanks in advance

29 March 2017, 00:44	#8
KONEY OctaMED Music Composer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Venice - Italy Age: 49 Posts: 672	I think I'm going somewhere because WirelessManager says he can find my network. Probably I need to configure it before, like with pw etc. Attached Thumbnails

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27 March 2017, 17:15	#2
idrougge Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Stockholm Posts: 4,348	Insert it after booting.

28 March 2017, 01:09	#3
KONEY OctaMED Music Composer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Venice - Italy Age: 49 Posts: 672	thanks, I also figured it out myself and made a test. Now I can load into the WB but as soon as I perform any action on the card it hangs Miami. I tried "Query device" and "go online", same results I wonder if the card is faulty or what. Also, PrepCard reckognizes the hardware displaying its name and version so now I'm even more puzzled :/

28 March 2017, 09:36	#4
idrougge Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Stockholm Posts: 4,348	What does Wirelessmanager say?

28 March 2017, 14:17	#6
KONEY OctaMED Music Composer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Venice - Italy Age: 49 Posts: 672	yes I have both of them and yes I also am not sure they're needed on A600. I'll try running the manager and see if there's some feedback, thanks.

28 March 2017, 14:21	#7
Sir_Lucas Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Norwich, UK Posts: 668	First disable WirelessManager from your U-s and then type in: C:WirelessManager prism2.device in your CLI you can also try the Verbose option. C:WirelessManager prism2.device VERBOSE Let me know of the outcome.

29 March 2017, 02:01	#9
Sir_Lucas Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Norwich, UK Posts: 668	Yes, there's some progress. What does C:WirelessManager prism2.device VERBOSE show?

29 March 2017, 09:20	#10
KONEY OctaMED Music Composer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Venice - Italy Age: 49 Posts: 672	sometimes a lot of things and sometimes what you see in picture. But in this case i realize now that maybe it's freezed. I'll try to make another picture with the full output somehow...

29 March 2017, 19:31	#12
Sir_Lucas Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Norwich, UK Posts: 668	I've noticed one more thing. The card you've bought is a clone of ORINOCO GOLD. Orinoco Gold supports only WPA/TKIP. It does not work with WPA2 or AES mode. It cannot work in mixed mode as well. Is your router set into WPA/TKIP mode ONLY? Can you check that as well?

03 April 2017, 18:12	#13
KONEY OctaMED Music Composer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Venice - Italy Age: 49 Posts: 672	hi, sorry my late response i've been away from the amiga for a while. Still need to grab that wirelessmanager output but I've been checking my router and it says: "Modalità cifratura:WPA-PSK TKIP-AES 256 bit" so it seems to be in the mode you mentioned... so now I'm trying some different settings! thanks!

03 April 2017, 22:04	#14
KONEY OctaMED Music Composer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Venice - Italy Age: 49 Posts: 672	I managed to authenticate by changing my router settings the way you suggested. But what I learn is that regardless of the settings inside wireless.prefs wirelessmanager would either stop at the point shown in the picture I already posted or run past that point showing a lot of informations about networks etc. which I've not been able to grab yet because the Amiga locks (mouse works but I can't do nothing). This is random, most of the times I just can't get past the shown point but sometimes I run into the big info stream (I keep trying to grab it)

03 April 2017, 23:36	#15
tolkien AmigaMan Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Castro Urdiales/Spain Posts: 763	Cardpatch and cardreset are nor needed in a a600. I had to remove them in a a600 with vampire cos they did strange things.

04 April 2017, 10:42	#17
Sir_Lucas Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Norwich, UK Posts: 668	My video with WPA2/AES card connecting to router This is how it should look like. Note, this video is made with a WPA2/AES card.

04 April 2017, 11:12	#18
KONEY OctaMED Music Composer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Venice - Italy Age: 49 Posts: 672	I get basically the same output, I get authenticated but afterwards the Amiga locks and I can't even start Miami. I'll do more tests anyway.

04 April 2017, 19:13	#20
KONEY OctaMED Music Composer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Venice - Italy Age: 49 Posts: 672	Good point, I changed PSU with a ATX one which is far more powerful but with no luck. Maybe capacitors... However at this point things got worse: no matter what I put in the cfg file, anytime I launch WirelessManager it freezes and locks the Amiga as I mentioned

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