Unfinished shoot 'em up

dreamkatcha · 02 December 2016, 01:31

What are your first impressions of the attached pic? Just suppose in theory this was an unfinished game begging to be completed so it could finally see the light of day and be enjoyed by the masses, would anyone be up for the challenge? Hypothetically speaking of course.

saimon69 · 02 December 2016, 02:00

Looks like an AGA title; good color palette btw - hypotetically speaking, what is the grade of completion?

dlfrsilver · 02 December 2016, 02:18

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Originally Posted by dreamkatcha

What are your first impressions of the attached pic? Just suppose in theory this was an unfinished game begging to be completed so it could finally see the light of day and be enjoyed by the masses, would anyone be up for the challenge? Hypothetically speaking of course.

beautiful game. I hope it's an AGA game

DamienD · 02 December 2016, 12:06

Wow, looks very good indeed dreamkatcha

spudje · 02 December 2016, 12:29

Looks really cool!!! The artsy font however is a bit hard to read

Selur · 02 December 2016, 13:27

graphics style is similar to Banshee, but too dark. It needs more contrast

AlgoRythmic · 02 December 2016, 13:48

Undoubtedly, this is top-grade stuff. Pixel art at it's finest, really.. so many details/little touches! and personally, I love the darker palette also. It reeks of "Amiga", which is cool ofc!
Are you the artist?

PortuguesePilot · 02 December 2016, 14:39

Looks nice. Unfortunately, I doubt that it will ever be applied to an actual, finished game. What's that!? Why am I ever so negative about these things? You say that maybe it's due to too many years of bitter disappointments over the uncountable number of vapourware that have graced us year after year since 1995 or the enormous amount of graphic work that was presented to us but that never got into an actual game? It sure is. I hope I'm proven wrong, though... I always hope that I'm proven wrong. Unfortunately, when it comes to this sort of thing, I'm right 9 out 10 times...

Giving the inherent lack of "faith" and the underlying negativity of the post, I pondered highly if I should comment at all. Decided at the last moment that I should speak my mind - after all, we do have that conceptual beauty that is "free speech" - but now that I wrote the comment, I'm starting to think that maybe I shouldn't have done it. I already feel the nearing outrage of many my fellow amigans. But heck, too bad! I've gone this far so I'm going to press "reply". If any sensibilities are offended by my apparent doubt, well... though luck. Cheers, mates!

PS: Yes, the graphics are adorable and I would love to see a game based around them. dreamkatcha, please prove my previous words wrong. please? You would make me a very glad amigan if you did. You really would...

Gzegzolka · 02 December 2016, 16:20

Looks like a great pixel art. I like it a lot. It reminds me Light Shock software somehow, I'm sure they were working on shmup somewhere in 98-2000. If it was finished I would love to buy it and play. If there were any demo, I would love to put my hands on it

and add it to my collection.

dreamkatcha · 02 December 2016, 20:11

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Originally Posted by Gzegzolka

Looks like a great pixel art. I like it a lot. It reminds me Light Shock software somehow, I'm sure they were working on shmup somewhere in 98-2000. If it was finished I would love to buy it and play. If there were any demo, I would love to put my hands on it

and add it to my collection.

You are very astute Sherlock. Well done.

... but I'll get to that.

Several versions of the game began development on both the Amiga and DOS platforms, though the pic shown is from the most advanced PC version.

It was never designed as an AGA title, but I'm told the 256 colour DOS assets could easily be converted to fit that mould. The game only got as far as a one level demo unfortunately, but this isn't from your average pie in the sky developer so I have high hopes for its evolution.

I should point out that I deserve absolutely none of the credit for the game. I've been working on a developer profile/retrospective article (which has practically become a book by this stage) on the Italian Light Shock studio. During my discussions with one of the co-founders, Francesco Iorio, I learnt of a number of unfinished games that he has expressed an interest in resuscitating, and the icing on the cake is that he likes the idea of a collaboration with people from the Amiga scene who have kept their development skills fresh and would like to contribute in any way they can.

The full details will be included in the article (along with a look at some other unreleased games), which I'm hoping to get online some time next week assuming my last few developer insights/anecdotes arrive.

It's kind of my Kickstarter book... minus Kickstarter or the price tag. I can't wait as it's been a long slog putting it all together (though totally worth it), and I'd like to get it posted sooner rather than later in case I get hit by a bus tomorrow.

Thanks for all the feedback. I'm sure the guys will appreciate the kind words and curiosity.

Tsak · 02 December 2016, 21:29

Top grade pixel art indeed!

LightShock software was one of the greatest last standing studios for the platform. Them coming home again out of the blue is fantastic news!

Selur · 02 December 2016, 21:35

Well... If you count that Italian Light Shock studio provide gfx/sfx and some amiga coder will finish code it then this is a mistake i'm afraid. I guess there will not be volunteers.

dreamkatcha · 03 December 2016, 00:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Selur

Well... If you count that Italian Light Shock studio provide gfx/sfx and some amiga coder will finish code it then this is a mistake i'm afraid. I guess there will not be volunteers.

It's still very early days so I can't say exactly what the plan might be, only that Francesco has said he's been thinking about resurrecting certain games from his unfinished back catalogue and would be interested in communicating with active Amiga developers. I don't want to put words in his mouth as I'm just a layperson go-between.

Say your scenario played out, why do you think that would be a dead end?

saimon69 · 03 December 2016, 00:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamkatcha

It's still very early days so I can't say exactly what the plan might be, only that Francesco has said he's been thinking about resurrecting certain games from his unfinished back catalogue and would be interested in communicating with active Amiga developers. I don't want to put words in his mouth as I'm just a layperson go-between.

If he need a musician am here

AND italian speaker

DamienD · 03 December 2016, 01:12

Ignore Selur's comments dreamkatcha, he's quite a negative person from reading his relatively few posts

TroyWilkins · 03 December 2016, 02:37

Looks interesting, colour me intrigued

Selur · 03 December 2016, 04:24

"Ignore Selur's comments dreamkatcha, he's quite a negative person..."

why so such negative opinion

Ok, call me then when the game will be ready

dreamkatcha · 05 December 2016, 00:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by saimon69

If he need a musician am here

AND italian speaker

Thanks for the offer. I've passed it on.

Francisco is going to contact some of the ex-Light Shock guys to find out if they'd be up for a collaboration. Exciting times!

DamienD · 05 December 2016, 12:26

Indeed dreamkatcha

You should point them to EAB where they can be part of a thriving Amiga community, might help them make more contacts and inspiration

blade002 · 05 December 2016, 15:27

Looks stunning, I certainly hope LightShock picks this one and other games back up again

02 December 2016, 01:31	#1
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02 December 2016, 02:00	#2
saimon69 J.M.D - Bedroom Musician Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: los angeles,ca Posts: 3,519	Looks like an AGA title; good color palette btw - hypotetically speaking, what is the grade of completion?

02 December 2016, 12:06	#4
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Wow, looks very good indeed dreamkatcha

02 December 2016, 12:29	#5
spudje Registered User Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,406	Looks really cool!!! The artsy font however is a bit hard to read

02 December 2016, 13:27	#6
Selur Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Poznan/Poland Age: 47 Posts: 116	graphics style is similar to Banshee, but too dark. It needs more contrast

02 December 2016, 13:48	#7
AlgoRythmic Registered User Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: MiggyLand Age: 43 Posts: 13	Undoubtedly, this is top-grade stuff. Pixel art at it's finest, really.. so many details/little touches! and personally, I love the darker palette also. It reeks of "Amiga", which is cool ofc! Are you the artist?

02 December 2016, 14:39	#8
PortuguesePilot Global Moderator Join Date: May 2013 Location: Setúbal, Portugal Posts: 609	Looks nice. Unfortunately, I doubt that it will ever be applied to an actual, finished game. What's that!? Why am I ever so negative about these things? You say that maybe it's due to too many years of bitter disappointments over the uncountable number of vapourware that have graced us year after year since 1995 or the enormous amount of graphic work that was presented to us but that never got into an actual game? It sure is. I hope I'm proven wrong, though... I always hope that I'm proven wrong. Unfortunately, when it comes to this sort of thing, I'm right 9 out 10 times... Giving the inherent lack of "faith" and the underlying negativity of the post, I pondered highly if I should comment at all. Decided at the last moment that I should speak my mind - after all, we do have that conceptual beauty that is "free speech" - but now that I wrote the comment, I'm starting to think that maybe I shouldn't have done it. I already feel the nearing outrage of many my fellow amigans. But heck, too bad! I've gone this far so I'm going to press "reply". If any sensibilities are offended by my apparent doubt, well... though luck. Cheers, mates! PS: Yes, the graphics are adorable and I would love to see a game based around them. dreamkatcha, please prove my previous words wrong. please? You would make me a very glad amigan if you did. You really would...

02 December 2016, 16:20	#9
Gzegzolka Registered User Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Warszawa / Polska Posts: 1,858	Looks like a great pixel art. I like it a lot. It reminds me Light Shock software somehow, I'm sure they were working on shmup somewhere in 98-2000. If it was finished I would love to buy it and play. If there were any demo, I would love to put my hands on it and add it to my collection.

02 December 2016, 21:29	#11
Tsak Pixelglass/Reimagine Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Athens Posts: 1,031	Top grade pixel art indeed! LightShock software was one of the greatest last standing studios for the platform. Them coming home again out of the blue is fantastic news!

02 December 2016, 21:35	#12
Selur Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Poznan/Poland Age: 47 Posts: 116	Well... If you count that Italian Light Shock studio provide gfx/sfx and some amiga coder will finish code it then this is a mistake i'm afraid. I guess there will not be volunteers.

03 December 2016, 01:12	#15
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Ignore Selur's comments dreamkatcha, he's quite a negative person from reading his relatively few posts

03 December 2016, 02:37	#16
TroyWilkins Registered User Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 548	Looks interesting, colour me intrigued

03 December 2016, 04:24	#17
Selur Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Poznan/Poland Age: 47 Posts: 116	"Ignore Selur's comments dreamkatcha, he's quite a negative person..." why so such negative opinion Ok, call me then when the game will be ready

05 December 2016, 12:26	#19
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Indeed dreamkatcha You should point them to EAB where they can be part of a thriving Amiga community, might help them make more contacts and inspiration

05 December 2016, 15:27	#20
blade002 Zone Friend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Australia Age: 50 Posts: 2,616	Looks stunning, I certainly hope LightShock picks this one and other games back up again

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