I Give UP!!! (Ami<>PC)

[Djay]

Hmmm.... NOW i'm stressed...

i've spent most of this evening trying to get my Ami<>PC network running (via Parallel) (PC running XP Pro)

I've...

changed the cable
got latest version of the mount software (ami)
change my parallel port settings, tried 4 settings (pc)
tried running all versions of PC2amiga [at the sametime in some cases] (pc)
tried running on A1200 & A600 (just in case of dead parallel port)
banging my head against a brick wall

so, unless someone comes up with a solution...


I'M KNACKERED!!

[Unknown_K]

If you figure it out let me know, I am going to try getting amiga explorer to work via PCMCIA network.. thats going to be a pain.

[kriz]

why not run ftp , very easy method to share files amiga/pc , setting up the pcmcia network shouldnt be hard (normal tcp/ip network)...

I don't know why people don't use the same method as me. It's simple and always (?) works

I have a serial cable connected to my PC and to my Amiga.
On the PC side, I run a terminal program, CRT, although any will do
On the Amiga side, I run a terminal program, NComm. Once again, any will do
I set both sides to use 115200 speeds and to use a ZModem protocol (although 115200 will report alot of errors during transmission, these errors will be corrected and the files will work fine....the same principle is used on the net with TCP/IP)
From there, I tell the machines to connect to each other. To confirm that they're connected, type on the PC. If it comes up on the Amiga, it works. Do the same on the Amiga.

I then do a ZModem upload on whichever machine is going to send the files. On the other end, I tell it to download (NComm on the Amiga is smart. It automagically detects and begins downloading by itself). That's it. It's simple

Since I'm using a serial cable, it's slower. This method should work with better speeds with a parallel cable.

[Walker]

@Djay
If the file transfer gear is supposed to be used for CAPS dumping, TCP/IP is out of the question, but maybe you're setting this up for general use...?

If you don't want to spend any money on a PCMCIA card, Amigaboy's method should work fine (unless there's something wrong with your cable or port).

[Unknown_K]

Originally posted by Amigaboy
I don't know why people don't use the same method as me. It's simple and always (?) works

I have a serial cable connected to my PC and to my Amiga.
On the PC side, I run a terminal program, CRT, although any will do
On the Amiga side, I run a terminal program, NComm. Once again, any will do
I set both sides to use 115200 speeds and to use a ZModem protocol (although 115200 will report alot of errors during transmission, these errors will be corrected and the files will work fine....the same principle is used on the net with TCP/IP)
From there, I tell the machines to connect to each other. To confirm that they're connected, type on the PC. If it comes up on the Amiga, it works. Do the same on the Amiga.

I then do a ZModem upload on whichever machine is going to send the files. On the other end, I tell it to download (NComm on the Amiga is smart. It automagically detects and begins downloading by itself). That's it. It's simple

Since I'm using a serial cable, it's slower. This method should work with better speeds with a parallel cable.

Well at the moment I am using a null modem cable and amiga explorer from Amiga Forever.

The thing is on both the A500 and A1200 the fastest speed that both the PC and the Amiga have in comon under serial settings is 19200 baud and this is slow. PC has Win2k, Amiga is OS/ROM 3.0

I love the explorer program because all I have to do is drop the adf to the df1 icon and put a blank DD disk in the drive and the program recreates the disk. Can dump to HD or wherever on the machine also.

I know the software will use a network connection if one is detected I just never had a pcmcia modem setup on my A1200 yet and am not too familiar with the setup procedure on the amiga side. The card is ne2000 compatible (from the cnet list anyway) and is 10/100 speed.

ack! Silly me. I called it "serial cable" when the correct term is "null modem cable"...I thought there was something wrong with my reply

Anyway, It's been a while, so I won't quote how fast the A1200's Serial port is. My A1200 is 030 accelerated, so I'm guessing that's why I can use speeds of 115200.
If you're unsure of speed, start at the highest available and progressively go down until you got a fully working transfer.

[Unknown_K]

Originally posted by Amigaboy
ack! Silly me. I called it "serial cable" when the correct term is "null modem cable"...I thought there was something wrong with my reply

Anyway, It's been a while, so I won't quote how fast the A1200's Serial port is. My A1200 is 030 accelerated, so I'm guessing that's why I can use speeds of 115200.
If you're unsure of speed, start at the highest available and progressively go down until you got a fully working transfer.

Your terminal program might have the 115200 but is the transfer going anyway near that fast? last time I checked the preferences setting for the serial port it didnt go anywhere near that high. There was one setting higher but the PC side didnt support it (both sides have to be the same setting).

Takes me about 3 minutes to turn an adf into a real disk at 19.2Kb

Originally posted by Unknown_K
Your terminal program might have the 115200 but is the transfer going anyway near that fast?

Yep. 100% sure of it

[mr_0rga5m]

Originally posted by Amigaboy
I don't know why people don't use the same method as me. It's simple and always (?) works

I have a serial cable connected to my PC and to my Amiga.
On the PC side, I run a terminal program, CRT, although any will do
On the Amiga side, I run a terminal program, NComm. Once again, any will do
I set both sides to use 115200 speeds and to use a ZModem protocol

I do use this same method .. I actually said all this to DJay on the IRC chan when he posted the msg to this forum, But i didnt have the knowledge of where to find NComm n such to hand because mine has been installed on my A1200 since back in the day of using BBS's (and also coz it was 1 in the morning and we was both off to bed (NOT the same bed i must quickly add here ).

Is NComm available on Aminet .. i bet it is but i cant check atm.

And i also do use 115200 on a unaccellerated A1200 just fine.

Originally posted by mr_0rga5m
Is NComm available on Aminet

Yep.
http://wuarchive.wustl.edu/~aminet/c...m/ncomm306.lha

And also on Aminet, the keyfile for it
http://wuarchive.wustl.edu/~aminet/c...m306PubKey.lha

[IFW]

I'm going to try pc2amiga on XPPro maybe I will encounter the same problems and hopefully I can post a fix for them...

[Mojo]

sorry to dig up an old thread (did a search)

having horrible problems with network PC (comes with a parellel cable), i tried this 'easy' method

It sounds really easy, but with terminal software (even got same software -VanDykes's CRT 4.1b23 +4.0), there is no parallel selctor! Its serial-COM1-50 or rlogin,telnet, or TAPI (modem)

???? so therefore am I right in saying you cant do terminal zuploads with parellels?

[manicx]

Matey, the problem is with winXP. I had the very same problems and here's what I did.

-Booted with a win98 disk
-Used NTFSDos to be able to access my NTFS partition from DOS
-Used PC2Amiga software with a parallel cable through pure dos mode.

Keep in mind that NTFSDos is a commercial program. This way, I went around winXP to solve my problem.

[Mojo]

Interesting.. Wonder if there is any linux/unix binaries of any kind - that would be great - another opportunity to try and dump windows altogether (hah!)

[Amiga1992]

As I said before Twin Express came with unix binaries but it seem, according to Creosote, that they dont come anymore with teh distro. I will have a look at home, it's all a mes and I cant finda bloody thing :P

[adolescent]

Originally posted by Unknown_K
The thing is on both the A500 and A1200 the fastest speed that both the PC and the Amiga have in comon under serial settings is 19200 baud and this is slow. PC has Win2k, Amiga is OS/ROM 3.0

I know this post is old, and you probably already know this now. But, the serial prefs means little to programs like NComm. In NComm you set the prefs and it controls the device as needed. You should be able to get at least 57600 out of a standard A1200, and 38400 out of the A500. (I say at least because you can probably bump it up more but you might get retrys...).

[Unknown_K]

Originally posted by adolescent
I know this post is old, and you probably already know this now. But, the serial prefs means little to programs like NComm. In NComm you set the prefs and it controls the device as needed. You should be able to get at least 57600 out of a standard A1200, and 38400 out of the A500. (I say at least because you can probably bump it up more but you might get retrys...).

yes, but when your using amiga explorer your stuck with what the highest common setting is for both systems.

[adolescent]

You only need to set the serial prefs when initially transfering the executable over (I avoided this by just copying the files to a floppy). After that you use the tool types to change the speed. I've used 57600 on my stock A1200 with no big problems (although 38400 worked better).

BTW, with TCP/IP I've found a packet size of 4096 to work much faster than the defaut (I think default is 128 or 256...).

[mr_0rga5m]

Just to let you in on my experience....

With regards to Ncomm (great program) .. I use it over serial from A1200 to my XP machine at 115200 8n1 Zmodem no problems/no retrys .. The other way is a diff matter .. 57600 from XP to A1200 with the occasional retrys.