weird thing with Scout (WB3.1) + OS4.0 partitions

Bamiga2002 · 10 September 2009, 07:43

I just discovered this "funny" thing. I've created a couple of FFS partitions on OS4.0 and these show on my 3.9 Workbench fine, but on my 3.1 Workbench only the main OS4.0 partition shows up. BUT the rest of the 4.0 FFS partitions somehow pop up when i launch Scout and click on "mounted devs". Next reboot...all but the main partition are gone again.

Any explanations?

Bamiga2002 · 14 September 2009, 14:46

The volumes also show up when i launch PFS3Ud and it scans the harddrives in the system.

Bamiga2002 · 14 September 2009, 15:48

I'm thinkin could this be related somehow to AfA_OS?

DDNI · 14 September 2009, 15:52

As thomas recently told me "AfA_OS causes all sorts of issues".....

http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=592698&postcount=16

thomas · 14 September 2009, 15:59

I rather think that this is some sort of 4GB problem. Probably these partitions are above the 4GB border and the 3.1 system runs IDEfix from startup-sequence.

At the start of the boot process 3.1 cannot read the partitions because scsi.device is not able to. IDEfix replaces scsi.device but does not remount partitions. Scout or pfs3ud try to access the partitions which causes them to remount and thus appear.

Something like this.

DDNI · 14 September 2009, 16:01

Seems logical Thomas. Is there a remount line that can be added to SS or US Sequence?

thomas · 14 September 2009, 16:08

I'm not sure about that. One would have to investigate more detailed what is really going on. Perhaps a simple diskchange dhx: would do.

Bamiga2002 · 17 September 2009, 23:12

DiskChange didn't help the cause. Now if there'd be a single command to do this re-mounting. Maybe making ata.driver resident will help this.

Bamiga2002 · 18 September 2009, 08:27

Yep making ata3.driver resident did the trick

. Now there's and extra reboot at the first cold boot but trade one thing to another.

thomas · 18 September 2009, 09:23

You could try the SplitDiskMount command from http://thomas-rapp.homepage.t-online.de/splitdisk.lha
It works similar to the Mounter program which comes with OS 3.9 but has no GUI.

Bamiga2002 · 21 September 2009, 22:48

Tip noted

. But here's another:
Deduct 1 reboot and use "ata3.driver" as a module with BlizKick or similar kick-tool! Worked and all drives show on WB. Remember to remove RESIDENT from ata3.driver commandline.

Bamiga2002 · 23 July 2010, 16:36

Idefix works similarly with BlizKick, plus no need for command lines in S-S.

10 September 2009, 07:43	#1
Bamiga2002 BlizzardPPC'less Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 46 Posts: 3,210	weird thing with Scout (WB3.1) + OS4.0 partitions I just discovered this "funny" thing. I've created a couple of FFS partitions on OS4.0 and these show on my 3.9 Workbench fine, but on my 3.1 Workbench only the main OS4.0 partition shows up. BUT the rest of the 4.0 FFS partitions somehow pop up when i launch Scout and click on "mounted devs". Next reboot...all but the main partition are gone again. Any explanations? Last edited by Bamiga2002; 14 September 2009 at 14:45.

14 September 2009, 14:46	#2
Bamiga2002 BlizzardPPC'less Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 46 Posts: 3,210	The volumes also show up when i launch PFS3Ud and it scans the harddrives in the system. Last edited by Bamiga2002; 14 September 2009 at 15:48.

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14 September 2009, 15:48	#3
Bamiga2002 BlizzardPPC'less Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 46 Posts: 3,210	I'm thinkin could this be related somehow to AfA_OS?

14 September 2009, 15:52	#4
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,431	As thomas recently told me "AfA_OS causes all sorts of issues"..... http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=592698&postcount=16

14 September 2009, 15:59	#5
thomas Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 6,985	I rather think that this is some sort of 4GB problem. Probably these partitions are above the 4GB border and the 3.1 system runs IDEfix from startup-sequence. At the start of the boot process 3.1 cannot read the partitions because scsi.device is not able to. IDEfix replaces scsi.device but does not remount partitions. Scout or pfs3ud try to access the partitions which causes them to remount and thus appear. Something like this.

14 September 2009, 16:01	#6
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,431	Seems logical Thomas. Is there a remount line that can be added to SS or US Sequence?

14 September 2009, 16:08	#7
thomas Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 6,985	I'm not sure about that. One would have to investigate more detailed what is really going on. Perhaps a simple diskchange dhx: would do.

17 September 2009, 23:12	#8
Bamiga2002 BlizzardPPC'less Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 46 Posts: 3,210	DiskChange didn't help the cause. Now if there'd be a single command to do this re-mounting. Maybe making ata.driver resident will help this.

18 September 2009, 08:27	#9
Bamiga2002 BlizzardPPC'less Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 46 Posts: 3,210	Yep making ata3.driver resident did the trick . Now there's and extra reboot at the first cold boot but trade one thing to another.

18 September 2009, 09:23	#10
thomas Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 6,985	You could try the SplitDiskMount command from http://thomas-rapp.homepage.t-online.de/splitdisk.lha It works similar to the Mounter program which comes with OS 3.9 but has no GUI.

21 September 2009, 22:48	#11
Bamiga2002 BlizzardPPC'less Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 46 Posts: 3,210	Tip noted . But here's another: Deduct 1 reboot and use "ata3.driver" as a module with BlizKick or similar kick-tool! Worked and all drives show on WB. Remember to remove RESIDENT from ata3.driver commandline.

23 July 2010, 16:36	#12
Bamiga2002 BlizzardPPC'less Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 46 Posts: 3,210	Idefix works similarly with BlizKick, plus no need for command lines in S-S.

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