21 July 2021, 07:56 | #1 |
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MMULib, weird problem
Problem started when I replaced hard drive with SD based solution. I just copied hard drive content to new drive after I had created new partions.
My Zorro IV / FastATA ZIV started to require soft reset to boot from hard drive. Tried two different kickstarts and CF based soltion and result was same. Problem started to solve, when I noticed that I can get to FastATA prefs, even from cold bot, so it does boot from hard drive, just not to OS. Here is my startup-sequence's first lines. C:CheckLMB IF WARN SYS:Prefs/FastATAPrefs ENDIF C:FastATA.driver QUIET ; $VER: Startup-Sequence_HardDrive 45.4 (28.5.2018) ; Startup-Sequence for hard drive systems ;C:MuMove4k C:SetPatch QUIET ;C:MuFastZero ON FASTEXEC C:MuFastRom ON Protect >NIL: C:CPU CHECKINSTALL Solution was disable MuMove4k and MuFastZero. How this was NOT a problem with old hard drive??? |
21 July 2021, 08:48 | #2 |
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OS and kickstart version? I had a similar problem with mumove4k, os 3.2 and vinced boot shin; I needed an updated vnc.library recently released on aminet.
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What does this do, and why it is required so early in the startup-sequence? |
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Problem is my Zorro IV / FastATA ZIV required soft reset to boot from hard drive if MuMove4k and MuFastZero are on startup-sequence. It how ever worked just fine with "real" hard drive earlier. Quote:
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21 July 2021, 12:44 | #5 |
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I tried to edit startup-sequence so that C:FastATA.driver QUIET is after mmulib thingies and enabled C:MuFastZero and C:MuFastZero. It didn't work, problem was there again. I needed to do soft reset to get it get it boot from hard drive.
[edit] I have also tried to disable four fist lines, that din't help either [/edit] C:CheckLMB IF WARN SYS:Prefs/FastATAPrefs ENDIF ; $VER: Startup-Sequence_HardDrive 45.4 (28.5.2018) ; Startup-Sequence for hard drive systems C:MuMove4k C:SetPatch QUIET C:MuFastZero ON FASTEXEC C:MuFastRom ON Protect >NIL: C:CPU CHECKINSTALL C:FastATA.driver QUIET Last edited by utri007; 21 July 2021 at 13:10. |
21 July 2021, 13:39 | #6 |
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I aslo made two minits video to demonstrate problem.
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21 July 2021, 14:28 | #7 |
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If you disable fastata driver does mumove4k works? If yes could be the driver messing with some chipram space needed by mumove4k. What I can't understand it's why the same configuration works on mechanical hard drive and not on CF, maybe something related with your actual CF2IDE adapter I don't know...
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21 July 2021, 14:30 | #8 |
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Does it work if you delay upfront MuMove4K with WAIT, such that the reset comes later? Maybe the reset is triggered right while the ATA is initializing itself.
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21 July 2021, 14:57 | #10 | |
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Note this used to work with real hard drive, problem is SD and CF hard drive replacements. |
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21 July 2021, 15:16 | #11 |
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Did you had FastATA.driver running while set up your HD/SD? Did you run FastATAPrefs and clicked on the Save button? The Readme says that all this is needed.
If you still have problems you should comment all third party stuff (Mu stuff for example) in your S-S. I.e. get a clean system running. I'm not sure but I guess the Zorro version of the FastATA doesn't need a reset itself like the non Zorro versions may need. If so your clean system should run without any second reset. |
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PS. FastATA ZIV manual is same than FastATA 4000 manual. Last edited by utri007; 21 July 2021 at 19:24. |
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Which OS version? I would try a fresh system with only mmulibs and fastata driver installed. Just to be sure that it could work.
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Originally I had a OS3.9 with ks3.9, now I'm running OS3.9 with ks3.1.4. Originally I also had two hard drives, OS3.9 and OS3.1 with quite plain version of it. Problem was same with all possible scenarios. But, this problem is before any OS components are loaded, it is with FFS and SFS, it with OS3.1 and OS3.9, KS3.9 and KS3.1.4. BUT not if hard drive is real, mechanical. |
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21 July 2021, 23:55 | #16 |
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Clean install of OS3.1.4 and problem is same. This time no FastATA driver or prefs or any othter programs installed at all.
C:MuMove4k C:SetPatch QUIET C:MuFastZero ON FASTEXEC C:MuFastRom ON Protect >NIL: C:CPU CHECKINSTALL With this I get to KS3.1.4 screen "Please insert disk", soft reboot A + A + CTRL and it boots to OS. After FAstATA driver instal, I can get to FastATA prefs, before it display KS screem. Disabling MuMove4k and MuFastZero it boots normally. And again, current install on "real hard drive" works as should. Last edited by utri007; 22 July 2021 at 00:05. |
22 July 2021, 01:03 | #17 |
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Short demonstration video of problem. Now FastATA programs installed. Problem is same are they installed or not.
[ Show youtube player ] Cold boot - > ks screen Soft reset - > OS Cold boot - > Left mouse button and to FastATA prefs time 1:50 |
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Very concrete advice: Put a WAIT 5 upfront MuMove4K and report back. MuMove4K doesn't do anything fancy to reset the machine, it just runs into a ColdReboot(). It may happen that the driver/the drive is still busy initializing itself, thus the wait may help. If that does not help, well, then the driver has an "issue" by not resetting itself properly on a software-initiated reboot. There is then nothing I can do. |
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FastATA.driver reads the config file that is saved by FastATAPrefs. So, if you change your configuration without saving it the old configuration is read/in use. FastATA.driver needs to be running because it builds the scsi.device that it using. If not running the default scsi.device or whatever device is used. It is not a good idea to setup drives with for example HDToolbox using different scsi.devices. |
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22 July 2021, 14:17 | #20 | |
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How ever this seems to be a weird problem with Blizzard 1260 and SD/CF hard drives. Last edited by utri007; 22 July 2021 at 14:28. |
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