Games by CRIONICS? (and TV appearance video)

Amiga1992 · 23 March 2010, 16:35

This video triggered my curiosity:
[ Show youtube player ]

They talk about game development... What games did Crionics make? What was the name of Crionics as a game developer? The TV footage mistakingly shows Turrican 2.

WayneK · 23 March 2010, 18:44

They made some games on Sega Megadrive as ZYRINX (Sub-Terrania, a very nice Thrust-clone, and Red Zone which was an overhead helicopter sim (clone of another game I don't recall right now, but with a much better 3d-ish engine). They also made some Sega Saturn + Dos/Windows games as part of the company SCAVENGER.

I believe 1 or more of them went on to work for Shiny Entertainment, and worked on Messiah and some other popular games around 1999-2000 time, I don't know what happened to them after that!

Djay · 23 March 2010, 23:31

read my post at youtube... by breakpointUK

the left post on the version with english subs

Amiga1992 · 28 March 2010, 05:49

Why would I read on youtube when i the information would be better stored in here?

PLease post whatever you got to say about the matter in this very thread!

Djay · 28 March 2010, 19:21

ok...

breakpointuk (4 weeks ago) 0 Reply | Remove
wow, at the time i thought the demoscene was underground, but you guys on TV.. spoils it, also... at least reading the text, it felt like you made Turrican 2 ... not true or some sort of trade secret.. and when pressed you didnt want to want to talk about your games, again trade secret or simply you only copied then at parties???

Amiga1992 · 28 March 2010, 22:07

awwi thought you had some information, not a question

Maren · 31 March 2010, 12:00

Vertical Insanity! not by them either

nice footage nonetheless

StingRay · 31 March 2010, 13:56

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Originally Posted by Maren

Vertical Insanity! not by them either

Eh? Where do you see Vertical Insanity in that video?

Maren · 31 March 2010, 14:33

At the very beginning. I know it's a routine from Total Destruction, but considering that it pretty much looks like Vertical Insanity which had just been released a few months before, what are the chances that they didn't reverse-engineer this code?

StingRay · 31 March 2010, 15:09

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Originally Posted by Maren

At the very beginning. I know it's a routine from Total Destruction, but considering that it pretty much looks like Vertical Insanity which had just been released a few months before, what are the chances that they didn't reverse-engineer this code?

Yeah, right... Because Alcatraz bars are incredibly hard to code and Crionics never had any good coders.... I'm sorry but sometimes I'm really out of words. Besides, you didn't mention that with any word in your first post but that just as an aside.

Maren · 31 March 2010, 22:38

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Originally Posted by StingRay

Yeah, right... Because Alcatraz bars are incredibly hard to code and Crionics never had any good coders.... I'm sorry but sometimes I'm really out of words. Besides, you didn't mention that with any word in your first post but that just as an aside.

It takes a good coder to reverse-engineer stuff. Amiga demos seem to be plagued with copy-paste routines. They probably learned how to do it from them because there was nothing like it before. I downloaded a transcription for an interview with someone from the scene explaining this, but I'm having trouble finding it.

If you had remembered the demo, you would have figured it out without asking. I think it was rather self-evident.

StingRay · 31 March 2010, 23:29

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Originally Posted by Maren

If you had remembered the demo, you would have figured it out without asking. I think it was rather self-evident.

Aha, so according to you I didn't remember the demo and the routine is stolen from Vertical Insanity. Awesome logic there my friend! Where did Vertical Insanity steal the routine from then, Alcatraz Megademo 3?
The only thing that is rather self-evident here is that you don't have a clue what you are talking about!

Maren · 01 April 2010, 00:06

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Originally Posted by StingRay

Aha, so according to you I didn't remember the demo and the routine is stolen from Vertical Insanity. Awesome logic there my friend! Where did Vertical Insanity steal the routine from then, Alcatraz Megademo 3?
The only thing that is rather self-evident here is that you don't have a clue what you are talking about!

Sorry pal but that's barely 4 sparse colours and not even vertical. You should have known better.

StingRay · 01 April 2010, 00:20

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Originally Posted by Maren

Sorry pal but that's barely 4 sparse colours and not even vertical. You should have known better.

Of course, they are indeed not vertical...

I bow down, your superior knowledge of Amiga demos is really amazing! This even makes it possible that the Total Destruction routine is ripped from Vertical Insanity even though the code is completely different. You are my hero, really.

Maren · 01 April 2010, 00:55

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Originally Posted by StingRay

Of course, they are indeed not vertical...

I bow down, your superior knowledge of Amiga demos is really amazing! This even makes it possible that the Total Destruction routine is ripped from Vertical Insanity even though the code is completely different. You are my hero, really.

I was talking about the horizontal colour bars during the Mickey Mouse scene, and these you mention don't look anything like Vertical Insanity's. Whether or not the code is entirely different, that I cannot tell, but to say that they couldn't have inspected or even copied someone else's code, is only wishful thinking.

StingRay · 01 April 2010, 01:12

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Originally Posted by Maren

I was talking about the horizontal colour bars during the Mickey Mouse scene

But you told me I should have known better, awesome! I can just quote myself again:

Quote:

Originally Posted by StingRay

The only thing that is rather self-evident here is that you don't have a clue what you are talking about!

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Originally Posted by Maren

Whether or not the code is entirely different, that I cannot tell

You can't? How come? Some hours ago you could:

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Originally Posted by Maren

Vertical Insanity! not by them either

What's up? Lost your memory suddenly?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maren

but to say that they couldn't have inspected or even copied someone else's code, is only wishful thinking.

I did not say that.

Amiga1992 · 01 April 2010, 05:09

I love nerd fights xD

s2325 · 07 October 2012, 14:30

longplay of Sub-Terrania: [ Show youtube player ]

s2325 · 09 October 2012, 21:28

longplay of Red Zone: [ Show youtube player ]

Asle · 14 October 2012, 00:21

The Spy for you : http://www.mobygames.com/developer/s...loperId,30834/

23 March 2010, 16:35	#1
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,658	Games by CRIONICS? (and TV appearance video) This video triggered my curiosity: [ Show youtube player ] They talk about game development... What games did Crionics make? What was the name of Crionics as a game developer? The TV footage mistakingly shows Turrican 2.

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23 March 2010, 18:44	#2
WayneK Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Somewhere secret Age: 50 Posts: 366	They made some games on Sega Megadrive as ZYRINX (Sub-Terrania, a very nice Thrust-clone, and Red Zone which was an overhead helicopter sim (clone of another game I don't recall right now, but with a much better 3d-ish engine). They also made some Sega Saturn + Dos/Windows games as part of the company SCAVENGER. I believe 1 or more of them went on to work for Shiny Entertainment, and worked on Messiah and some other popular games around 1999-2000 time, I don't know what happened to them after that!

23 March 2010, 23:31	#3
Djay 95th User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Brighton/UK Age: 48 Posts: 3,120	read my post at youtube... by breakpointUK the left post on the version with english subs

28 March 2010, 05:49	#4
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,658	Why would I read on youtube when i the information would be better stored in here? PLease post whatever you got to say about the matter in this very thread!

28 March 2010, 19:21	#5
Djay 95th User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Brighton/UK Age: 48 Posts: 3,120	ok... breakpointuk (4 weeks ago) 0 Reply \| Remove wow, at the time i thought the demoscene was underground, but you guys on TV.. spoils it, also... at least reading the text, it felt like you made Turrican 2 ... not true or some sort of trade secret.. and when pressed you didnt want to want to talk about your games, again trade secret or simply you only copied then at parties???

28 March 2010, 22:07	#6
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,658	awwi thought you had some information, not a question

31 March 2010, 12:00	#7
Maren Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: * Posts: 567	Vertical Insanity! not by them either nice footage nonetheless

31 March 2010, 14:33	#9
Maren Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: * Posts: 567	At the very beginning. I know it's a routine from Total Destruction, but considering that it pretty much looks like Vertical Insanity which had just been released a few months before, what are the chances that they didn't reverse-engineer this code?

01 April 2010, 05:09	#17
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,658	I love nerd fights xD

07 October 2012, 14:30	#18
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 44 Posts: 17,789	longplay of Sub-Terrania: [ Show youtube player ]

09 October 2012, 21:28	#19
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 44 Posts: 17,789	longplay of Red Zone: [ Show youtube player ]

14 October 2012, 00:21	#20
Asle Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Paris/France Age: 52 Posts: 527	The Spy for you : http://www.mobygames.com/developer/s...loperId,30834/

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