Do you want an idiots guide to setting up OS4 on WinUAE?

Aegis · 18 February 2016, 15:39

Not sure how to set up a poll so I'll just ask the question

I'm currently putting together an optimization guide for WinUAE 3.3.0/OS4 so that users can get the most out of the new features introduced in WinUAE 3.3.0 - this guide covers the following:

Getting WinUAE features up and running (uaegfx, uaenet.device, sound card support etc.)

Optimizing OS4 for the best balance between functionality and free RAM.

Suggested apps and games that run well under emulation - where to find them and how to configure them.

What my guide *doesn't* cover is installing OS4 in the first place - my thinking being that there's already multiple guides on how to do this. However, some of them contain incorrect and/or redundant material and generally (to me) most of the guides I've seen are more convoluted than I feel they need to be.

If this new release of WinUAE is primarily of interest to those of you already running OS4 under 3.2.2 then another setup guide isn't going to be of much interest - but if there's a bunch of potential new OS4 users waiting for 3.3.0 to be finished then perhaps an up-to-date install guide is a good idea.

What do you think?

Arnie · 18 February 2016, 15:53

I would sooner someone competent did the guide instead of an idiot

Aegis · 18 February 2016, 16:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arnie

I would sooner someone competent did the guide instead of an idiot

Touché

elowan · 18 February 2016, 16:40

+1

B14ck W01f · 23 February 2016, 02:06

An alternate title that I would have used is "OS4 under WinUAE for simpletons like you."

Anyway, nice idea, and I look forward to this guide.

Aegis · 23 February 2016, 03:34

Hey guys - the response to this idea hasn't been overwhelming so I'm going to put it on the back-burner until the OS4/Classic optimisation guide is done.

Most of the info needed for installing OS4 on WinUAE is out there anyway - I just figured it'd be nice to have it up-to-date and all in one place.

ma693541 · 23 February 2016, 13:12

I want that guide. I have now only a .vhd setup for OS4FE and it's some limited.

amiga_Forever · 10 March 2016, 12:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arnie

I would sooner someone competent did the guide instead of an idiot

True that....there is noting worse than a idiots guide to something being written by an idiot.

If people thought they were clueless before. now they'd be completely up the creek

Arnie · 10 March 2016, 13:52

I think you're missing the point. It was just a stupid joke, a play on words.

@Aegis

I hope my attempt at being funny hasn't put you off the guide.
Although some people can Install OS4.1 O.K, a lot more struggle with it.

Aegis · 10 March 2016, 14:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arnie

@Aegis

I hope my attempt at being funny hasn't put you off the guide.
Although some people can Install OS4.1 O.K, a lot more struggle with it.

No - not at all - I can take a joke

Just waiting to see what the response is really - I've already committed to doing an optimization guide for 4.1 FE Classic timed to the release of WinUAE 3.3.0 but I still think an up-to-date guide to installing OS 4.1 under WinUAE would be useful.

Narf the Mouse · 11 March 2016, 09:09

...Yeah, but who's going to volunteer to write it?

j/k

aszu · 11 March 2016, 12:14

i struggled big style so a im sure it would be helpful for many people

psykicko · 14 June 2016, 22:03

How does it go with the guide ? Now we have Winuae 3.3.0 and would be nice to see a guide on howto make the best os4 config to save memory and other importan bits and pieces. For howto install theres already guides. Needed is the best settings in winuae config, kicklayout etc

andyhants · 15 June 2016, 04:06

Well I definitely vote for it great idea. Especially like the bit about the best s/w to run on it etc. I keep thinking about getting OS4 4.1 FE but keep coming to the same conclusion that's it's not worth the effort as there is bog-all s/w that I couldn't run under 'classic' OS3.x etc.

Would also really appreciate a plain English explanation of all this 3D driver mumbo jumbo. Getting Wip3out running under OS 4.1 could persuade me but whenever I've tried to investigate it on EAB & other forums it just descends into a load of unfathomable rubbish about Warp3D something something that makes no sense to a normal person.

So yes please from me at least!

Jope · 15 June 2016, 09:23

Instead of idiot guides and tutorials, why not make a large FAQ which covers as many bases as possible.

Idiot guides don't help anyone grow.

sturme · 01 September 2016, 19:15

any word on if this guide has been made? its interesting to an idiot like me.

Arnie · 01 September 2016, 22:57

Have you seen this guide?
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?...ight=os4+guide

sturme · 02 September 2016, 15:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arnie

Have you seen this guide?
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?...ight=os4+guide

Thanks Arnie. Yeah, I looked at that thread, and am planning on playing with it this weekend. it just sounded like he was going to pretty in depth on this and it interested me.

BarryB · 02 September 2016, 17:09

Will there be an idiots guide to the idiots guide though?

sturme · 02 September 2016, 17:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarryB

Will there be an idiots guide to the idiots guide though?

isn't that a seeing eye idiot?

18 February 2016, 15:39	#1
Aegis Gentleman Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: The Fortesque Mansion Posts: 248	Do you want an idiots guide to setting up OS4 on WinUAE? Not sure how to set up a poll so I'll just ask the question I'm currently putting together an optimization guide for WinUAE 3.3.0/OS4 so that users can get the most out of the new features introduced in WinUAE 3.3.0 - this guide covers the following: Getting WinUAE features up and running (uaegfx, uaenet.device, sound card support etc.) Optimizing OS4 for the best balance between functionality and free RAM. Suggested apps and games that run well under emulation - where to find them and how to configure them. What my guide doesn't cover is installing OS4 in the first place - my thinking being that there's already multiple guides on how to do this. However, some of them contain incorrect and/or redundant material and generally (to me) most of the guides I've seen are more convoluted than I feel they need to be. If this new release of WinUAE is primarily of interest to those of you already running OS4 under 3.2.2 then another setup guide isn't going to be of much interest - but if there's a bunch of potential new OS4 users waiting for 3.3.0 to be finished then perhaps an up-to-date install guide is a good idea. What do you think?

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18 February 2016, 15:53	#2
Arnie R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 66 Posts: 3,968	I would sooner someone competent did the guide instead of an idiot

18 February 2016, 16:40	#4
elowan Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: germany Age: 49 Posts: 374	+1

23 February 2016, 02:06	#5
B14ck W01f m68k all the way Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Koalaland Posts: 523	An alternate title that I would have used is "OS4 under WinUAE for simpletons like you." Anyway, nice idea, and I look forward to this guide.

23 February 2016, 03:34	#6
Aegis Gentleman Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: The Fortesque Mansion Posts: 248	Hey guys - the response to this idea hasn't been overwhelming so I'm going to put it on the back-burner until the OS4/Classic optimisation guide is done. Most of the info needed for installing OS4 on WinUAE is out there anyway - I just figured it'd be nice to have it up-to-date and all in one place.

23 February 2016, 13:12	#7
ma693541 Computer Wizard Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Ramberg/Norway Posts: 928	I want that guide. I have now only a .vhd setup for OS4FE and it's some limited.

10 March 2016, 13:52	#9
Arnie R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 66 Posts: 3,968	I think you're missing the point. It was just a stupid joke, a play on words. @Aegis I hope my attempt at being funny hasn't put you off the guide. Although some people can Install OS4.1 O.K, a lot more struggle with it.

11 March 2016, 09:09	#11
Narf the Mouse Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Vancouver Area, Canada Posts: 136	...Yeah, but who's going to volunteer to write it? j/k

11 March 2016, 12:14	#12
aszu Registered User Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Leeds Posts: 141	i struggled big style so a im sure it would be helpful for many people

14 June 2016, 22:03	#13
psykicko Registered User Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Gothenburg / Sweden Posts: 23	How does it go with the guide ? Now we have Winuae 3.3.0 and would be nice to see a guide on howto make the best os4 config to save memory and other importan bits and pieces. For howto install theres already guides. Needed is the best settings in winuae config, kicklayout etc

15 June 2016, 04:06	#14
andyhants Registered User Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Hampshire England Posts: 184	Well I definitely vote for it great idea. Especially like the bit about the best s/w to run on it etc. I keep thinking about getting OS4 4.1 FE but keep coming to the same conclusion that's it's not worth the effort as there is bog-all s/w that I couldn't run under 'classic' OS3.x etc. Would also really appreciate a plain English explanation of all this 3D driver mumbo jumbo. Getting Wip3out running under OS 4.1 could persuade me but whenever I've tried to investigate it on EAB & other forums it just descends into a load of unfathomable rubbish about Warp3D something something that makes no sense to a normal person. So yes please from me at least!

15 June 2016, 09:23	#15
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,861	Instead of idiot guides and tutorials, why not make a large FAQ which covers as many bases as possible. Idiot guides don't help anyone grow.

01 September 2016, 19:15	#16
sturme Zone Friend Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Seymour/USA Posts: 61	any word on if this guide has been made? its interesting to an idiot like me.

01 September 2016, 22:57	#17
Arnie R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 66 Posts: 3,968	Have you seen this guide? http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?...ight=os4+guide

02 September 2016, 17:09	#19
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,676	Will there be an idiots guide to the idiots guide though?

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