68060/50 Mhz available at Vesalia.de

[emuola]

Don't really know if this is really worth announcing here, but I've understood that these cpus are pretty hard to find? Personally I'm not planning to buy one, but if someone wants one, here they are

http://www.vesalia.de/e_68060.htm

-Olli

[grond]

I guess with the apollo core on the horizon some people need to get rid of their deeply hidden stock...

[Locutus]

Vesalia has had these for years..........

Mind, these are not the much (over)hyped Rev6 models.

[eXeler0]

There are a couple of ppl in these forums (well AmiBay actually) who are sitting on NOS rev6 060's but they only release a limited amount at a time to regulate the market and keeping prices high. (like trading with diamonds, basically ,-) )
There will always be some interest for genuine rev6 parts, but ye, the old XC parts should drop significantly once Apollo-core is available for more models.

[OlafSch]

Originally Posted by eXeler0

There are a couple of ppl in these forums (well AmiBay actually) who are sitting on NOS rev6 060's but they only release a limited amount at a time to regulate the market and keeping prices high. (like trading with diamonds, basically ,-) )
There will always be some interest for genuine rev6 parts, but ye, the old XC parts should drop significantly once Apollo-core is available for more models.

that was a basic problem in the market... no real competition. People could earn lots of money with old hardware or new slow accellerators. That will be over soon...

[pandy71]

There is another competition - new Suska core should have full (but faster) MC68030 compatible FPGA core - probably no match to Apollo but... Apollo can be inspiration to Suska too.

[eXeler0]

Originally Posted by pandy71

There is another competition - new Suska core should have full (but faster) MC68030 compatible FPGA core - probably no match to Apollo but... Apollo can be inspiration to Suska too.

As I mentioned before.. A genuine rev6 holds some other values than just speed. I have one myself.
A half-decent FPGA core (no offence Suska -team) is not competing with it.

[1time]

FPGA is the future... just forget about the old stuff =)

[eXeler0]

Originally Posted by 1time

FPGA is the future... just forget about the old stuff =)

You do realise ppl might want to own particular stuff beyond the merely practical reasons?

[1time]

Im one of them

[S0ulA55a551n]

nearly bought all 11 of them to release slowly to the market, whahh hah hah haha

[Amiga1992]

SCrew this shit, Vampire forever

[eXeler0]

Originally Posted by S0ulA55a551n

nearly bought all 11 of them to release slowly to the market, whahh hah hah haha

Rev6 hold their value, the other masks, not so much.

[HardStep]

Whats the difference between Rev6 and older revs, more reliable for overclocking and less heat?

[eXeler0]

Originally Posted by HardStep

Whats the difference between Rev6 and older revs, more reliable for overclocking and less heat?

AFAIK the 060 was produced between 94-99. First part was an XC part manufactured on 0.6um (micrometers) and according to Motorola nomenclature, chips that they don't consider to be a fully qualified part get the XC label.
Then for each revision there are bug fixes and process optimizations.

The 060 also had 3 (I think) die shrinks.. From 0.6um (rev 1-3) to 0.4um (rev 4-5) and finally 0.32um for revision 6.

Smaller process usually translates into higher clockspeeds or lower power consumption.

However it should be remembered that the 060 is from a different time, so power consumption was never above 5W for the official parts anyway.
Since both rev1 XC and rev6 MC exist in 50MHz versions you can imagine that the Rev 6 has a lot of headroom for overclocking compared to oldest revs.

[S0ulA55a551n]

And these ones are that they are selling are Rev 6 then. Says last revision ?

[amigasith]

Originally Posted by S0ulA55a551n

And these ones are that they are selling are Rev 6 then. Says last revision ?

Definitely not. I sent them an email asking about the revision and the numbers printed on the CPUs, but the answer was that they cannot guarantee any mask. Maybe you're even getting XC68060 CPUs, who knows. I for myself decided not to buy one from Vesalia.

[S0ulA55a551n]

Give that a miss then. Thanks for the info.

[HardStep]

eXeler0, thanks for clarification.