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Old 20 August 2020, 09:00   #821
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Layer cliprects are slow and can eat lot of memory. If you have a smart refresh window with an installed clipping region to inner window area, and the window is hidden behind some other window. Then the hidden areas are backed up twice.
Not that I know of in layers V45.

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And the clipping region will regularly be NULLed and then re-installed by Intuition when doing things like rendering gadgets or window border frame. In case of (partly) hidden smart refresh windows changing clipping region includes blitting stuff around as you know.
Why should installation of clipping regions blit anything around? It only does that if the layer is SMART, and hidden, and the hidden cliprects need undergo "slice and dice" operations if they overlap with the installed cliprect.
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Old 20 August 2020, 11:05   #822
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1. completely hidden smart refresh window.

2. install clipregion in upper left quarter of window.
3. uninstall clipregion


How do cliprects created by V45 layers look like at step 1, 2 and 3?
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Old 20 August 2020, 11:09   #823
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Btw. what's the current state of 3.2?
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Old 20 August 2020, 16:20   #824
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Steril707: From what I've gathered in this thread, bug fixing and polishing. Of course, what I know of bug fixing in my own career, that doesn't necessarily it's anywhere near release
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Old 20 August 2020, 18:01   #825
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Did anyone try contacting Cybergraphx4 developers about fixing old intuition.library dependencies?

Do you think they have the code but refuse (or would refuse) to let their code be fixed for the new intuition.library ?
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Old 20 August 2020, 18:55   #826
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Last I heard, CyberGraphX is part of MorphOS and is inaccessible to Hyperion. Anyway, P96 is backwardly compatible to CGX 3 as long as you can get drivers for the cards.
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Old 20 August 2020, 19:50   #827
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Did anyone try contacting Cybergraphx4 developers about fixing old intuition.library dependencies?
Yes, early in the development of 3.1.4.


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Do you think they have the code
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but refuse (or would refuse) to let their code be fixed for the new intuition.library ?
That's what I see.



Sorry, folks, as authors show no interest, what can we do? Well, except pimping P96?
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Old 21 August 2020, 19:50   #828
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Well, except pimping P96?
True. I'm happy to give a few € to actively supported software. I was a little sad to lose screen dragging but I haven't really missed it (and your sneak pic shows this is changing).

The problem will be cards that have no P96 support.
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Old 21 August 2020, 20:57   #829
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The problem will be cards that have no P96 support.
You will be surpriced
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Old 21 August 2020, 21:34   #830
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True. I'm happy to give a few € to actively supported software. I was a little sad to lose screen dragging but I haven't really missed it (and your sneak pic shows this is changing).

The problem will be cards that have no P96 support.
Screen dragging is something i also miss in P96. I asked about it a few months ago. He said they discussed it , but choose NOT to add it. Sad.
Maybe if more people ask about it, it might happen.
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Old 21 August 2020, 21:42   #831
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Screen dragging is something i also miss in P96. I asked about it a few months ago. He said they discussed it , but choose NOT to add it. Sad.
Maybe if more people ask about it, it might happen.
I thought that was happening.. Isn't that happening?
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Old 22 August 2020, 03:49   #832
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One feature that I like and use is SuperFloppy for ZIP drives etc. Has this been improved or able to be improved as I have found it works with 1230scsi.device and scsi.device but NOT with gvpscsi.device and usbscsi.device. I have found this on my systems, might be different for other people. Maybe it's a limitation of those particular SCSI controllers (latest firmware in all)?
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Old 22 August 2020, 09:44   #833
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@Storm

SuperFloppy is already working under 3.1.4. Just make sure you are using the correct mountlist which is explained in section 2.11 of the 3.1.4 FAQ:

http://nl.aminet.net/docs/help/AmigaOS_3.1.4-FAQ.txt
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Old 22 August 2020, 09:48   #834
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I followed the FAQ and got it to work correctly on my A1200 with a Blizzard 1260 and SCSI but it doesn’t want to play ball on my A2000 with a GVP combo card or my A4000 using USB ZIP drive.
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Old 22 August 2020, 12:06   #835
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Screen dragging is something i also miss in P96. I asked about it a few months ago. He said they discussed it , but choose NOT to add it. Sad.
Maybe if more people ask about it, it might happen.
That's a shame. It's in OS4 (which uses a version of P96), but maybe it comes down to the way it's implemented not suiting classic graphics cards?
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Old 22 August 2020, 13:10   #836
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I thought that was happening.. Isn't that happening?
Looks like it's happening to me:
http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...&postcount=107
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Old 22 August 2020, 16:02   #837
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Screen dragging is something i also miss in P96. I asked about it a few months ago. He said they discussed it , but choose NOT to add it. Sad.
Maybe if more people ask about it, it might happen.
Screen dragging will be available in p96 2.5
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I thought that was happening.. Isn't that happening?
Yes!
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Old 22 August 2020, 16:38   #839
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This seems to be such an amazing new version of the OS.
Can't wait...
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Old 22 August 2020, 17:44   #840
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Did anyone try contacting Cybergraphx4 developers about fixing old intuition.library dependencies?

Do you think they have the code but refuse (or would refuse) to let their code be fixed for the new intuition.library ?
We had talks. It’s just a lack of time and motivation which is totally legitimate, as CGX-authors - just like us - don’t owe anyone.

Please don’t speculate about motives; it’ll lead to wrong conclusions most of the time.
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