25 July 2020, 16:55 | #721 | |
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Nottingham England
Posts: 277
|
Quote:
I'm looking forward to seeing how OS 3.2 develops, if it succeeds and what Hyperion does afterwards. Flogging one dead horse hasn't turned out to be too successful for them. |
|
07 August 2020, 23:43 | #722 |
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Minneapolis, USA
Posts: 301
|
First of all, let me join everyone else and say "Thank you for working on new Amiga OS builds"! I think it's just awesome we're getting actual new updates, complete with ROMs and physical floppies.
I bought a copy of 3.1.4 this week from Amiga on the Lake. I'm sure 3.2 is "two weeks" away (just like every other software project I ever worked on), but if it encourages Hyperion to keep letting these guys crank out code, great! Plus I like installer floppies I haven't done any dev for 2.0 and newer builds of the OS, and my 1.3 knowledge is a little fuzzy at the moment too. I was doing a little comparison a couple of years ago about developing for classic Mac OS 6.x vs Amiga OS 1.x, and I know there were some things I thought would make developer's lives a lot easier, but I'll try to get up to speed on the 3.x NDK first. But one thing I do remember and wanted to inquire about for 3.3 or 3.4: how impossible would it be to resize the window gadgets so that they are not vertically squished if you are in 640x400/512 or any other 1:1 pixel size mode? We're still using the same proportions for gadgets that were designed in 1985 when everyone had color TVs, and interlaced mode was definitely second-class. I'm not sure what that would break for properly-conforming programs (memory fuzzy, like I said), but I think it would make a big impact on how good the WorkBench can look. I think (don't have data!) that the reality is that these days, most retro Amiga users all use flicker fixers or more powerful graphics cards (or indivision, etc.) and are using the larger screen real estate. (or are just using UAE). Beyond that, would like to add my vote to support for: - "better" icon management. - "cleaner", "clearer" fonts (a la XEN, but a sans and non-sans, and decent set of sizes) - continue to have options for those of us still on OCS and ECS machines! Thanks again, really looking forward to 3.2! |
08 August 2020, 01:25 | #723 | |
BoingBagged
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: The South of nowhere
Age: 46
Posts: 2,358
|
Quote:
BTW, if you get the itch to start coding on Amiga again and once you believe you have mastered the art of not being driven crazy by Amiga and C, you can always join us. |
|
08 August 2020, 10:19 | #724 | |||
Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Cork/Gallia
Posts: 27
|
@gulliver
Quote:
I reiterate the same too (again)! Quote:
Pleeeeaaaseee don't! I hate Helvetica Quote:
|
|||
08 August 2020, 20:39 | #725 | |
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Manchester, UK
Posts: 4
|
Quote:
I thought that was FreeBSD, they have the logo. |
|
08 August 2020, 22:34 | #726 |
Coder/webmaster/gamer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Canberra/Australia
Posts: 2,630
|
Here's a preview of the new sketchboard.gadget in action...
Last edited by Minuous; 08 August 2020 at 23:34. |
08 August 2020, 22:46 | #727 | |
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Minneapolis, USA
Posts: 301
|
Fantastic! Can't wait.
Quote:
|
|
09 August 2020, 01:44 | #728 |
Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Germany
Posts: 585
|
|
09 August 2020, 21:57 | #729 |
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 57
|
I did a quick search but couldnt find an answer, would 3.2 require new roms? I have a 2000 and 3000 that I am itching to upgrade to 3.1.4 but if 3.2 requires new roms, ill wait and get those instead
|
10 August 2020, 06:51 | #730 | |
BoingBagged
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: The South of nowhere
Age: 46
Posts: 2,358
|
Quote:
Of course, having a physical 3.2 ROM makes things much better since you will be able to boot faster, save memory and fix some additional bugs. |
|
12 August 2020, 11:03 | #731 |
Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Poland
Posts: 166
|
Any estimation for release date?
|
12 August 2020, 12:31 | #732 |
Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Germany
Posts: 585
|
|
12 August 2020, 15:09 | #733 | |
Inviyya Dude!
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Amiga Island
Posts: 2,770
|
Quote:
Basically it comes down to: * AOS is a hobby OS for the remaining few people using Amigas in 2020 * there is no interest for an OS with these modern features. MacOS covers the arty and trendy people faction, Windows the majority of business users, and Linux the nerds and server shit. There is simply no need for another OS in a world where classic tabletop and laptop OSes are on their way out anyway. * there have been many tries to modernize AOS. Like Amithlon, or even within sub branches like AROS there once was "Anubis", which was supposed to be a Linux with an AOS UI. Guess what? No one gave a fuck, so it died a year later. What you are doing here is proposing modern people should use flying cars, and thinking you are a genius for doing that. When the reality is a lot more difficult, and there are reasons why this is not happening. Plus, talk is cheap. If you think it's a great idea what you are proposing, put in the man hours, or shut up. Last edited by Tigerskunk; 13 August 2020 at 11:12. |
|
12 August 2020, 15:11 | #734 |
Inviyya Dude!
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Amiga Island
Posts: 2,770
|
|
12 August 2020, 15:20 | #735 |
Coder/webmaster/gamer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Canberra/Australia
Posts: 2,630
|
@Steril707:
Basically, yes. |
12 August 2020, 15:56 | #736 |
Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Germany
Posts: 3,215
|
Well, it is. What is strange is that this boopsi was actually already present in 3.1, but statically linked into the IconEditor, the Pointer preferences and the WBPattern preferences (slightly modified, case by case). It is much better to have it as a separate library.
|
12 August 2020, 16:18 | #737 |
Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Sweden
Posts: 528
|
|
12 August 2020, 16:18 | #738 |
Supernormal
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Istanbul / Turkey
Age: 43
Posts: 1,410
|
I haven't seen the new 3.1.4 yet, but there is one thing that bothers me on all Amigaos versions.
When the refresh rate of the resolution is not 50hz for pal timings and 60hz for ntsc timings, there is screen tearing when moving objects on screen. This is especially a problem with CGX screens on CVisionPPC where 50hz refresh rates disturb your eye too much. (and even with a 50hz screen mode there is visible line that looks like it is tearing the screen slowly in one direction depending on whether your precise 50.xxxxhz mode is higher or lower than the PAL precise timing). Also the mouse pointer will not move smoothly when refresh rate is different from 50hz. (I overcame this problem by creating 100hz screenmodes. This way the mouse moves semi-smoothly alas with a bit of flickering as if there is a double of the mouse pointer.) Is there a way to fix this? Maybe create a new timer for screenmodes? |
12 August 2020, 17:34 | #739 |
WinUAE 4000/40, V4SA
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: East of Oshawa
Posts: 538
|
What's the max colour depth on sketchboard.gadget?
|
12 August 2020, 19:45 | #740 | |
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 57
|
Quote:
|
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | |
Thread Tools | |
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
AmigaOS 3.1.x v 3.9 | steve_mynott | New to Emulation or Amiga scene | 35 | 19 April 2020 06:23 |
AmigaOS 3.9 | PoLoMoTo | support.WinUAE | 8 | 27 August 2011 18:06 |
AmigaOS 3.5 or 3.9 | maddoc666 | support.Apps | 12 | 22 February 2010 08:02 |
AmigaOS | koncool | request.Apps | 6 | 04 June 2003 17:45 |
AmigaOS XL | sturme | New to Emulation or Amiga scene | 4 | 15 January 2002 02:13 |
|
|