Amiga Games at 50 fps - Page 2

vulture · 04 November 2015, 21:32

Added mixed fps sections for OCS/ECS and AGA

@Retro Nerd

I know, but Toni is a wizard so he may think of a trick to pull for that purpose!

Retro-Nerd · 04 November 2015, 21:34

Katakis is still missing in your list. It's fully 50fps. X-Out too.

jayminer · 04 November 2015, 21:36

Writing from memory so I'm hope I'm not wrong about any game, but here are some that come to mind:

Rod-land
Pang
Giana Sisters
Skidmarks
Lionheart (

)
Puggsy

Sandro · 04 November 2015, 21:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by vulture

Added everything you've mentioned (how could I forget Mr Beanbag!) plus Alien Breed Tower Assault AGA - if you believe other alien breed games are 50 fps as well, plz let me know.

I think that alien breed 1, 2 and tower assault runs at 50 fps because they are smooth and were done by Team 17

Retro-Nerd · 04 November 2015, 21:37

True, Giana Gisters is 50fps.

jayminer · 04 November 2015, 21:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

How? A PAL Amiga always ouputs 50fps@50Hz. No matter if scrolling and animation runs with lower speed. Technically impossible probably.

Should just be a check to see if anything has changed on screen since last vblank. Games like Battle Squadron that are 50fps for the scrolling (and the player I think) but runs the enemies at 25fps would be reported as 50fps games that way.

Retro-Nerd · 04 November 2015, 21:41

A candidate for the most pointless WinUAE feature ever. Maybe Toni likes it (if technically possibly).

vulture · 04 November 2015, 21:42

Added all mentioned + Snow Bros and Qwak

I'll sort everything alphabetically at some point and make the sections clearer, but I'll keep it as is for a while.

@jayminer

good thought!

Retro-Nerd · 04 November 2015, 21:48

KATAKIS and X-OUT!!

edit: B.C. Kid and Tony and his Friends in Kellog's Land.

jayminer · 04 November 2015, 22:01

Doesn't most (all?) sensible games run at 50fps?

Retro-Nerd · 04 November 2015, 22:03

Probably.

Havie · 04 November 2015, 22:07

How do you know the frame rate of a game - surely feel is not scientific enough? Is there a way to analyse on a real Amiga?

Retro-Nerd · 04 November 2015, 22:09

A proper 50Hz display and good eyes. Then it's not too hard to recognize a 100% smooth scrolling and animation.

jayminer · 04 November 2015, 22:27

Yes, what Retro-Nerd said! It's easy to spot the difference between 25 and 50fps. 25fps looks jerky and horrible, 50fps looks smooth and wonderful

Mrs Beanbag · 04 November 2015, 22:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayminer

Doesn't most (all?) sensible games run at 50fps?

pretty sure Wizball didn't

Retro-Nerd · 04 November 2015, 22:43

Well, Wizball was ported by Peter Johnson. Probably a 1:1 Atari ST port.

vulture · 04 November 2015, 23:13

List Updated

So, is there a consensus that Sensible should go in? In that case, Canon Fodder 1 and 2 as well?
What about Kick Off 2 and Goal! ?
Also, what do you think of SWIV, should it be included? I think it should. There are a few points of small, but noticeable frame dropping, but all in all I think it's a 50 fps game.
And how about Disposable Heroes? I recall it was smooth, but I can't say yet.
Few more candidates I just thought of: Fighting Spirit ECS, Fighting Spirit AGA, Black Viper ECS, Black Viper AGA.
Plz, gimme your thoughts.

Retro-Nerd · 04 November 2015, 23:19

Performance slowdowns happens, even on good console games with smooth scrolling. SWIV looks like 50fps. Hybris probably too.

jayminer · 04 November 2015, 23:22

I was pretty sure SWIV was 25fps, but I could be wrong, haven't played it in a long time.

Yes Hybris I'm quite sure is 50fps, Mega Typhoon aswell!

Retro-Nerd · 04 November 2015, 23:24

Disposable Hero also looks fine here.

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04 November 2015, 21:32	#21
vulture Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Athens , Greece Posts: 1,840	Added mixed fps sections for OCS/ECS and AGA @Retro Nerd I know, but Toni is a wizard so he may think of a trick to pull for that purpose!

04 November 2015, 21:34	#22
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,435	Katakis is still missing in your list. It's fully 50fps. X-Out too.

04 November 2015, 21:36	#23
jayminer Registered User Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Umeå / Sweden Posts: 266	Writing from memory so I'm hope I'm not wrong about any game, but here are some that come to mind: Rod-land Pang Giana Sisters Skidmarks Lionheart ( ) Puggsy

04 November 2015, 21:37	#25
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,435	True, Giana Gisters is 50fps.

04 November 2015, 21:41	#27
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,435	A candidate for the most pointless WinUAE feature ever. Maybe Toni likes it (if technically possibly).

04 November 2015, 21:42	#28
vulture Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Athens , Greece Posts: 1,840	Added all mentioned + Snow Bros and Qwak I'll sort everything alphabetically at some point and make the sections clearer, but I'll keep it as is for a while. @jayminer good thought!

04 November 2015, 21:48	#29
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,435	KATAKIS and X-OUT!! edit: B.C. Kid and Tony and his Friends in Kellog's Land.

04 November 2015, 22:01	#30
jayminer Registered User Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Umeå / Sweden Posts: 266	Doesn't most (all?) sensible games run at 50fps?

04 November 2015, 22:03	#31
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,435	Probably.

04 November 2015, 22:07	#32
Havie Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: UK Posts: 1,893	How do you know the frame rate of a game - surely feel is not scientific enough? Is there a way to analyse on a real Amiga?

04 November 2015, 22:09	#33
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,435	A proper 50Hz display and good eyes. Then it's not too hard to recognize a 100% smooth scrolling and animation.

04 November 2015, 22:27	#34
jayminer Registered User Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Umeå / Sweden Posts: 266	Yes, what Retro-Nerd said! It's easy to spot the difference between 25 and 50fps. 25fps looks jerky and horrible, 50fps looks smooth and wonderful

04 November 2015, 22:43	#36
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,435	Well, Wizball was ported by Peter Johnson. Probably a 1:1 Atari ST port.

04 November 2015, 23:13	#37
vulture Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Athens , Greece Posts: 1,840	List Updated So, is there a consensus that Sensible should go in? In that case, Canon Fodder 1 and 2 as well? What about Kick Off 2 and Goal! ? Also, what do you think of SWIV, should it be included? I think it should. There are a few points of small, but noticeable frame dropping, but all in all I think it's a 50 fps game. And how about Disposable Heroes? I recall it was smooth, but I can't say yet. Few more candidates I just thought of: Fighting Spirit ECS, Fighting Spirit AGA, Black Viper ECS, Black Viper AGA. Plz, gimme your thoughts.

04 November 2015, 23:19	#38
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,435	Performance slowdowns happens, even on good console games with smooth scrolling. SWIV looks like 50fps. Hybris probably too.

04 November 2015, 23:22	#39
jayminer Registered User Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Umeå / Sweden Posts: 266	I was pretty sure SWIV was 25fps, but I could be wrong, haven't played it in a long time. Yes Hybris I'm quite sure is 50fps, Mega Typhoon aswell!

04 November 2015, 23:24	#40
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,435	Disposable Hero also looks fine here.

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