FIXED: Speedball (Hangs during demo play)

amiganer · 05 August 2007, 11:55

Hello,

already mailed this to writer:

Speedball

will crash during the third Demo Play!

Time-History:

16.45 Player is knocking and waiting for pressing Fire
16.48 First Demo Game
16.51 Player is knocking and waiting for pressing Fire
16.53 Second Demo Game
16.56 Player is knocking and waiting for pressing Fire
16.58 Third Demo Game
17.00 Speedball is CRASHING during Demo Game, always at the same Screen. This does not happen with Disc Speedball at Amiga 500.

Confirmed both with Amiga 3000 (just now) and Amiga 1200

Video

http://.com/files/44213184/MOV00400.3GP

Video Speedball WHD-Load crashing during third demo play. (Starting Minute 1:19)

Anybody could confirm this with his whd speedball?

Speedball from 3,5 Disc is running fine ...

Mad-Matt · 05 August 2007, 13:35

Tested my install of the game and it works fine, left it going in demo mode for nearly an hour while i had dinner.

im at a loss why ya worried about the game demo mode though

amiganer · 05 August 2007, 15:51

i like that sound

also it was a stress test for my "new" A3k

may be you could send the files somehow to me?

Mad-Matt · 05 August 2007, 16:08

Ill stick in the zone for ya

amiganer · 05 August 2007, 21:28

thanks, just found out what is "the zone"

EAB is full of secrets all the time ;-)

i will report if this Speedball is running

(and running and running ;-)

amiganer · 06 August 2007, 00:39

hallo matt,

thank you very much.

Your files are working fine!

Size differs from Killergorilla's WHD packs which have the same size like my crashing download.

Both versions are named 2.0 but files are different.

Something must be wrong with Gorillas Files.

How did you make your Speedball, Matt?

Retro-Nerd · 06 August 2007, 01:01

I can confirm this bug with KG's Speedball install. The game freezes during the third demo game, as you said.

Probably one of the most hidden WHDLoad errors i've seen.

Edit: Yep, Mad-Matt's version is working fine here in Demo mode, no freezes. Will check now the IPF image, which KG used for his install.

Edit2: Just tested the CAPS #581 with WinUAE, in plain disk mode. No freezes here, so i assume this version isn't fully working with Slave 2.0. Even if JOTD wrote this:

Quote:

version 2.0 (01.01.05) done by JOTD:
- support for another original version (CAPSID:581, with another disk protection)
- slave fully rewritten, merged re-release & original slaves (3 versions supported)
- install script rewritten
- RawDIC imager used for the original versions
- source code included

killergorilla · 06 August 2007, 10:43

Cool, I shall fix this in my new pack!

There are 3 IPF versions so one of them must work

Mad-Matt · 06 August 2007, 12:19

I used my own disk which is the Kixx re-release dos version.

killergorilla · 06 August 2007, 12:29

Cool, I'll use that one then. Cheers for the info sire.

Mad-Matt · 06 August 2007, 12:57

I dont know if its widely known, but speedball is probably the only game with screen adjustmant while you play the game. can use Q/A and P/L keys to adjust the virtical screen size and make use of the overscan area dependant on screen.

Retro-Nerd · 06 August 2007, 13:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad-Matt

I dont know if its widely known, but speedball is probably the only game with screen adjustmant while you play the game. can use Q/A and P/L keys to adjust the virtical screen size and make use of the overscan area dependant on screen.

Yep, i know this. Even the Quartex crack contains this info. Very handy feature.

Methanoid · 06 August 2007, 13:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

Yep, i know this. Even the Quartex crack contains this info. Very handy feature.

Well that's cos its Quartex innit?

Mad-Matt · 06 August 2007, 13:59

ok, i never seen crack

, i just remember making use of this feature way back when I used A600 connected to ordinary tv

EDIT: listening to the game music, is it just me or does it seem to share more than a few rifs with bravestar on c64 ? I know music is by same author

Retro-Nerd · 06 August 2007, 14:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Methanoid

Well that's cos its Quartex innit?

Nope, works fine with the original too.

killergorilla · 07 August 2007, 01:42

I installed it with the other SPS/IPF image, all seems fine now, I've whacked it in the zone, if someone could test it once or twice that'd be nice

Cheers.

Retro-Nerd · 07 August 2007, 03:45

SPS #0086 install works fine here, KG. No freezes in five demo games.

Methanoid · 07 August 2007, 08:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

Nope, works fine with the original too.

He said EVEN the QUARTEX CRACK INCLUDES THIS INFO...

INFO

RTFM!!!

Codetapper · 07 August 2007, 08:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad-Matt

I dont know if its widely known, but speedball is probably the only game with screen adjustmant while you play the game. can use Q/A and P/L keys to adjust the virtical screen size and make use of the overscan area dependant on screen.

Helter Skelter also has screen positioning using F6 and F7 during the game.

Retro-Nerd · 07 August 2007, 10:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Methanoid

He said EVEN the QUARTEX CRACK INCLUDES THIS INFO...

INFO

RTFM!!!

LOL!! Sorry, Meth. I got you wrong. Never had a manual back in time, so this important info was very useful for me.

I guess, Quartex liked the Public Enemy cracks, right?

05 August 2007, 11:55	#1
amiganer Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: germany Posts: 56	FIXED: Speedball (Hangs during demo play) Hello, already mailed this to writer: Speedball will crash during the third Demo Play! Time-History: 16.45 Player is knocking and waiting for pressing Fire 16.48 First Demo Game 16.51 Player is knocking and waiting for pressing Fire 16.53 Second Demo Game 16.56 Player is knocking and waiting for pressing Fire 16.58 Third Demo Game 17.00 Speedball is CRASHING during Demo Game, always at the same Screen. This does not happen with Disc Speedball at Amiga 500. Confirmed both with Amiga 3000 (just now) and Amiga 1200 Video http://.com/files/44213184/MOV00400.3GP Video Speedball WHD-Load crashing during third demo play. (Starting Minute 1:19) Anybody could confirm this with his whd speedball? Speedball from 3,5 Disc is running fine ...

06 August 2007, 13:59	#14
Mad-Matt Longplayer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lincoln / UK Age: 45 Posts: 1,864	ok, i never seen crack , i just remember making use of this feature way back when I used A600 connected to ordinary tv EDIT: listening to the game music, is it just me or does it seem to share more than a few rifs with bravestar on c64 ? I know music is by same author Last edited by Mad-Matt; 06 August 2007 at 15:47.

07 August 2007, 03:45	#17
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,478	SPS #0086 install works fine here, KG. No freezes in five demo games. Last edited by Retro-Nerd; 07 August 2007 at 03:55.

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05 August 2007, 13:35	#2
Mad-Matt Longplayer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lincoln / UK Age: 45 Posts: 1,864	Tested my install of the game and it works fine, left it going in demo mode for nearly an hour while i had dinner. im at a loss why ya worried about the game demo mode though

05 August 2007, 15:51	#3
amiganer Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: germany Posts: 56	i like that sound also it was a stress test for my "new" A3k may be you could send the files somehow to me?

05 August 2007, 16:08	#4
Mad-Matt Longplayer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lincoln / UK Age: 45 Posts: 1,864	Ill stick in the zone for ya

05 August 2007, 21:28	#5
amiganer Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: germany Posts: 56	thanks, just found out what is "the zone" EAB is full of secrets all the time ;-) i will report if this Speedball is running (and running and running ;-)

06 August 2007, 00:39	#6
amiganer Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: germany Posts: 56	hallo matt, thank you very much. Your files are working fine! Size differs from Killergorilla's WHD packs which have the same size like my crashing download. Both versions are named 2.0 but files are different. Something must be wrong with Gorillas Files. How did you make your Speedball, Matt?

06 August 2007, 10:43	#8
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	Cool, I shall fix this in my new pack! There are 3 IPF versions so one of them must work

06 August 2007, 12:19	#9
Mad-Matt Longplayer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lincoln / UK Age: 45 Posts: 1,864	I used my own disk which is the Kixx re-release dos version.

06 August 2007, 12:29	#10
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	Cool, I'll use that one then. Cheers for the info sire.

06 August 2007, 12:57	#11
Mad-Matt Longplayer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lincoln / UK Age: 45 Posts: 1,864	I dont know if its widely known, but speedball is probably the only game with screen adjustmant while you play the game. can use Q/A and P/L keys to adjust the virtical screen size and make use of the overscan area dependant on screen.

07 August 2007, 01:42	#16
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	I installed it with the other SPS/IPF image, all seems fine now, I've whacked it in the zone, if someone could test it once or twice that'd be nice Cheers.

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