Bubble and Squeak [AGA] - Freezes Randomly

DamienD · 17 July 2016, 21:02

Hey Toni,

Been playing "Bubble and Squeak [AGA]" today

Using my old v1.0 AGA configuration the game locks up at different intervals on the first level...

...so then used a "Quickstart A1200 - 4 MB Fast RAM expanded configuration". Played again and this time all was ok

Compared the your Quickstart A1200 with my old v1.0 AGA configuration and not much difference really (24-bit addressing / Wait for Blitter / Chipset Extra = 1200 as opposed to Generic). Added these lines into my old v1.0 AGA configuration but still randomly freezing...

I then ended up just loading a "Quickstart A1200 - 4 MB Fast RAM expanded configuration", set my display / input / filter etc. options and saved.

Played the game and could get all the way through level one without freezes. Quit, played a second time and then randomly the game froze again

I'm using the .IPF files for this.

Do you need me to enable logging, play the game with a "Quickstart A1200 - 4 MB Fast RAM expanded configuration" and if it randomly crashes attach all log files?

DamienD · 17 July 2016, 21:32

Damn it, crashed again using a "Quickstart A1200 - 4 MB Fast RAM expanded configuration".

This time only changed input / display settings; nothing else...

Logs attached in the hope that they will show something / help you Toni

I should add if I use a "Quickstart A1200 - Basic non-expanded configuration" I can't use 2 disk drives as I can with a "Quickstart A1200 - 4 MB Fast RAM expanded configuration"...

Even if I select only 1 disk drive with this "Quickstart A1200 - Basic non-expanded configuration"; after inserting Disk 2 into DF0: nothing happens...

Toni Wilen · 18 July 2016, 11:15

What is it? Freeze or crash? If freeze, attach statefile in frozen state.

DamienD · 18 July 2016, 13:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

What is it? Freeze or crash? If freeze, attach statefile in frozen state.

It's a freeze; everything on screen stops and you cannot move.

You can still press <F12> to bring up the WinUAE GUI.

So wait until this occurs and then create a save state. Will do this tonight when home. Many thanks Toni

Arnie · 18 July 2016, 14:00

Just tried this with A1200+4mb fast default config, B&S ipf 0210.

Froze on start screen & level 1.

loading savestate for start screen allows continued play but level one is still frozen.

DamienD · 18 July 2016, 16:56

Hi Toni,

Do you still need me to provide a save state tonight or are the ones kindly provided by Arnie enough for you to work with?

Toni Wilen · 18 July 2016, 19:52

Random?

Don't touch the mouse button. It starts KS ROM serial debugger, after few minutes it will timeout and game will continue.

Code:

002293EE 0839 0006 00bf e001      BTST.B #$0006,$00bfe001
002293F6 6600 000e                BNE.W #$000e == $00229406
002293FA 2f0e                     MOVE.L A6,-(A7)
002293FC 2c78 0004                MOVEA.L $00000004,A6
00229400 4eae ff8e                JSR (A6, -$0072) == $00200792 ; exec/Debug
00229404 2c5f                     MOVEA.L (A7)+,A6
00229406 4eb9 0022 9974           JSR $00229974

Arnie · 18 July 2016, 20:20

That's my fault. I was looking for the jump button

Damien's save states might be different to mine then.

Toni Wilen · 18 July 2016, 20:43

It is guaranteed different if all animations and music stop.

DamienD · 18 July 2016, 20:50

I was going to say "...but I never touch the mouse"

Ok, let me get a save state from running the game with a "Quickstart A1200 - 4 MB Fast RAM expanded configuration + Cycle Exact".

DamienD · 18 July 2016, 21:08

Typical; played through level 1 twice tonight and it hasn't happened once. Last night I must have tried at least 7 times with "freezes" at various intervals...

Anyway, will continue testing and get back to you Toni

DamienD · 18 July 2016, 22:29

I'm not really sure what to say here

Tonight I've tested this game using the following:

... Quickstart A1200 - 4 MB Fast RAM expanded configuration + Cycle Exact [x 3 times]
... My usual v1.0.0 configuration (only difference when comparing to a v3.3.0 Quickstart is the following selected; 24-bit addressing / Wait for Blitter / Chipset Extra = 1200 as opposed to Generic) [x 5 times]

Not once has it "frozen"; I'm at a loss as to why no matter how many times I tried last night it was pretty consistent with "freezing" yet tonight not once... Also; absolutely nothing has changed...

Anyway, so sorry for wasting your time Toni. Appreciate your guidance / help my friend

Very glad that all now seems stable though (but no idea as to why suddenly)

DamienD · 18 July 2016, 23:40

Ok, have now done the following again:

... Deleted my directory "C:WinUAE".
... Launched "regedit.exe" and deleted the "Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Arabuusimiethet" key.
... Extracted the file "WinUAE3300.zip" --> "C:WinUAE".
... Created all additional folders that I like, set the "Paths" + "relative", copied all the folders such as "Configurations", "Games" (where all my .ADFs / IPS are located), "ROMs" etc. to these...
... Setup the registry again taking into consideration all my sub-directories (under C:\WinUAE) and other options. I'll be honest, I have a .reg file

So basically setup WinUAE from scratch

Tested the game again 3 times and again no crashes (note; using the exact same v1.0.0 configuration file)... Anyway; am happy but still at a loss as to why it occurred so frequently last night

17 July 2016, 21:02	#1
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Bubble and Squeak [AGA] - Freezes Randomly Hey Toni, Been playing "Bubble and Squeak [AGA]" today Using my old v1.0 AGA configuration the game locks up at different intervals on the first level... ...so then used a "Quickstart A1200 - 4 MB Fast RAM expanded configuration". Played again and this time all was ok Compared the your Quickstart A1200 with my old v1.0 AGA configuration and not much difference really (24-bit addressing / Wait for Blitter / Chipset Extra = 1200 as opposed to Generic). Added these lines into my old v1.0 AGA configuration but still randomly freezing... I then ended up just loading a "Quickstart A1200 - 4 MB Fast RAM expanded configuration", set my display / input / filter etc. options and saved. Played the game and could get all the way through level one without freezes. Quit, played a second time and then randomly the game froze again I'm using the .IPF files for this. Do you need me to enable logging, play the game with a "Quickstart A1200 - 4 MB Fast RAM expanded configuration" and if it randomly crashes attach all log files?

18 July 2016, 14:00	#5
Arnie R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 66 Posts: 3,968	Just tried this with A1200+4mb fast default config, B&S ipf 0210. Froze on start screen & level 1. loading savestate for start screen allows continued play but level one is still frozen. Last edited by Arnie; 07 September 2016 at 15:50.

18 July 2016, 23:40	#13
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Ok, have now done the following again: ... Deleted my directory "C:WinUAE". ... Launched "regedit.exe" and deleted the "Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Arabuusimiethet" key. ... Extracted the file "WinUAE3300.zip" --> "C:WinUAE". ... Created all additional folders that I like, set the "Paths" + "relative", copied all the folders such as "Configurations", "Games" (where all my .ADFs / IPS are located), "ROMs" etc. to these... ... Setup the registry again taking into consideration all my sub-directories (under C:\WinUAE) and other options. I'll be honest, I have a .reg file So basically setup WinUAE from scratch Tested the game again 3 times and again no crashes (note; using the exact same v1.0.0 configuration file)... Anyway; am happy but still at a loss as to why it occurred so frequently last night Last edited by DamienD; 18 July 2016 at 23:46.

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18 July 2016, 11:15	#3
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,574	What is it? Freeze or crash? If freeze, attach statefile in frozen state.

18 July 2016, 16:56	#6
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Hi Toni, Do you still need me to provide a save state tonight or are the ones kindly provided by Arnie enough for you to work with?

18 July 2016, 20:20	#8
Arnie R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 66 Posts: 3,968	That's my fault. I was looking for the jump button Damien's save states might be different to mine then.

18 July 2016, 20:43	#9
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,574	It is guaranteed different if all animations and music stop.

18 July 2016, 20:50	#10
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	I was going to say "...but I never touch the mouse" Ok, let me get a save state from running the game with a "Quickstart A1200 - 4 MB Fast RAM expanded configuration + Cycle Exact".

18 July 2016, 21:08	#11
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Typical; played through level 1 twice tonight and it hasn't happened once. Last night I must have tried at least 7 times with "freezes" at various intervals... Anyway, will continue testing and get back to you Toni

18 July 2016, 22:29	#12
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	I'm not really sure what to say here Tonight I've tested this game using the following: ... Quickstart A1200 - 4 MB Fast RAM expanded configuration + Cycle Exact [x 3 times] ... My usual v1.0.0 configuration (only difference when comparing to a v3.3.0 Quickstart is the following selected; 24-bit addressing / Wait for Blitter / Chipset Extra = 1200 as opposed to Generic) [x 5 times] Not once has it "frozen"; I'm at a loss as to why no matter how many times I tried last night it was pretty consistent with "freezing" yet tonight not once... Also; absolutely nothing has changed... Anyway, so sorry for wasting your time Toni. Appreciate your guidance / help my friend Very glad that all now seems stable though (but no idea as to why suddenly)

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