Format a 20gig HD with the Amiga Forever package

AMIGAZ · 25 April 2005, 21:37

Since I'm a "real amiga user" I must confess I'm a 99% complete newbie when it comes to emulators

I have Amiga Forever 6.0 indtalled here and a military spec

Maxtor 7200rpm 20 gig HD which I want to partition and install PFS3 on in Winuae (Amiga forever)...can it be done? if it's possible can someone please give me a small guide

I launched the standard Amiga forever config which is some sort of OS3.9 and started hdtoolbox but no drives where shown so I don't know where to go from here

thomas · 26 April 2005, 08:57

You have to open WinUAE's configuration window (I think it is called "Configuration" in the AF launcher) and add the HDD to WinUAE's HDD list. Don't forget to save the changed config before you launch the emulaton. Then change HDToolbox' tooltypes to point to uaehf.device.

AMIGAZ · 26 April 2005, 12:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomas

You have to open WinUAE's configuration window (I think it is called "Configuration" in the AF launcher) and add the HDD to WinUAE's HDD list. Don't forget to save the changed config before you launch the emulaton. Then change HDToolbox' tooltypes to point to uaehf.device.

Vielen dank, Thomas!

AMIGAZ · 26 April 2005, 19:58

@Thomas,

Looks like the tooltype was already set but I still can't see any hd's in hdtoolbox

Any ideas?

thomas · 26 April 2005, 22:04

Did you add the harddrive to WinUAE's list of emulated harddrives ?

AMIGAZ · 26 April 2005, 22:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomas

Did you add the harddrive to WinUAE's list of emulated harddrives ?

http://eab.abime.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=8447

Couldn't add a hd because I can't choose anything from the pull down menu, please see the screengrab
(thanks for guiding me on this one)

AMIGAZ · 27 April 2005, 07:17

Installed Winuae seperately now and tried to add a hd but uae just says this:

thomas · 27 April 2005, 08:30

Does the drive appear in the PC's BIOS ? Does Windows know the drive ? Did it offer you to partition/format the drive ? *Did* you partition/format the drive ? (You shouldn't !)

If at least the first two questions are true, you could try the following: open a DOS prompt, CD to WinUAE's directory and enter: winuae.exe -disableharddrivesafetycheck

Warning: be sure not to choose your Windows harddrive from the list, it will destroy all your data !!!

AMIGAZ · 27 April 2005, 08:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomas

Does the drive appear in the PC's BIOS ? Does Windows know the drive ? Did it offer you to partition/format the drive ? *Did* you partition/format the drive ? (You shouldn't !)

If at least the first two questions are true, you could try the following: open a DOS prompt, CD to WinUAE's directory and enter: winuae.exe -disableharddrivesafetycheck

Warning: be sure not to choose your Windows harddrive from the list, it will destroy all your data !!!

The drive is connected thru USB, I activated it in Windows XP's admin. tools and created a 200meg partition just to check that winuae and windows can find the drive and it works ok.
Have now removed the partition and inactivated the hd with Win Xp admin tools.
Will try the thing you mentioned now.
The reason I want to prep this hd in winuae is because I didn't work with it connected to my Fast ATA 4000 in my A4000 I
m typing this message on now.

Toni Wilen · 27 April 2005, 08:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMIGAZ

The drive is connected thru USB, I activated it in Windows XP's admin. tools and created a 200meg partition just to check that winuae and windows can find the drive and it works ok.
Have now removed the partition and inactivated the hd with Win Xp admin tools.

You partitioned the drive -> drive now contains MBR partition table -> WinUAE won't show it anymore because it is PC formatted.

WinUAE only shows drives that containt proper Amiga RDB or are zeroed (first few blocks) without (dangerous) command-line parameter..

AMIGAZ · 27 April 2005, 11:27

Got things working here, the hd is partioned and PFS3 installed.
Did tye PFS3 install on my A4000 instead because I couldn't get hdinsttols to find the hd in Winuae.
Now I have probs with the fast ata 4000 (crap card), have installed WB3.1 on my boot partition and WB boots fine with the hd installed to the onboard IDE but when installed to the fast ata I get a ramlib error when booting.
Have heard that other people also dislike the fast ata 4000.

thomas · 27 April 2005, 11:55

I have one, too and never had any problems. It's quite new, though, perhaps they updated the firmware and corrected some errors.

AMIGAZ · 27 April 2005, 12:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomas

I have one, too and never had any problems. It's quite new, though, perhaps they updated the firmware and corrected some errors.

Mine is also brand new, bought it along with my Mirage 4000 pro tower.
Only using it until I can get my hands on a good 68pin SCSI hd for the SCSI controller on my CS MKIII board.
Do you use the "split" or "non-split" mode in fast ata prefs?

thomas · 27 April 2005, 13:27

Quote:

Only using it until I can get my hands on a good 68pin SCSI hd for the SCSI controller on my CS MKIII board.

If you are after really big HDDs (20 GB and above), you should consider buying a SCSIDE adapter. An IDE HDD + Adapter might be cheaper than a SCSI HDD.

AMIGAZ · 27 April 2005, 16:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomas

If you are after really big HDDs (20 GB and above), you should consider buying a SCSIDE adapter. An IDE HDD + Adapter might be cheaper than a SCSI HDD.

Sounds like I have to get one of those

Do you know how termination and SCSI id's will work whith such an adapter?

Jope · 28 April 2005, 07:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMIGAZ

Sounds like I have to get one of those

Do you know how termination and SCSI id's will work whith such an adapter?

Just like any other SCSI unit.

There are jumpers on the back to set the ID and either there is a terminator you can enable on the adapter board or you need a terminated cable.

Personally I love cables with built in active termination. :-)

25 April 2005, 21:37	#1
AMIGAZ Amiga-Mad Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Sweden Age: 47 Posts: 1,291	Format a 20gig HD with the Amiga Forever package Since I'm a "real amiga user" I must confess I'm a 99% complete newbie when it comes to emulators I have Amiga Forever 6.0 indtalled here and a military spec Maxtor 7200rpm 20 gig HD which I want to partition and install PFS3 on in Winuae (Amiga forever)...can it be done? if it's possible can someone please give me a small guide I launched the standard Amiga forever config which is some sort of OS3.9 and started hdtoolbox but no drives where shown so I don't know where to go from here

26 April 2005, 19:58	#4
AMIGAZ Amiga-Mad Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Sweden Age: 47 Posts: 1,291	@Thomas, Looks like the tooltype was already set but I still can't see any hd's in hdtoolbox Any ideas? Attached Thumbnails Last edited by AMIGAZ; 26 April 2005 at 20:06.

27 April 2005, 07:17	#7
AMIGAZ Amiga-Mad Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Sweden Age: 47 Posts: 1,291	Installed Winuae seperately now and tried to add a hd but uae just says this: Attached Thumbnails

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26 April 2005, 08:57	#2
thomas Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 7,006	You have to open WinUAE's configuration window (I think it is called "Configuration" in the AF launcher) and add the HDD to WinUAE's HDD list. Don't forget to save the changed config before you launch the emulaton. Then change HDToolbox' tooltypes to point to uaehf.device.

26 April 2005, 22:04	#5
thomas Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 7,006	Did you add the harddrive to WinUAE's list of emulated harddrives ?

27 April 2005, 08:30	#8
thomas Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 7,006	Does the drive appear in the PC's BIOS ? Does Windows know the drive ? Did it offer you to partition/format the drive ? Did you partition/format the drive ? (You shouldn't !) If at least the first two questions are true, you could try the following: open a DOS prompt, CD to WinUAE's directory and enter: winuae.exe -disableharddrivesafetycheck Warning: be sure not to choose your Windows harddrive from the list, it will destroy all your data !!!

27 April 2005, 11:27	#11
AMIGAZ Amiga-Mad Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Sweden Age: 47 Posts: 1,291	Got things working here, the hd is partioned and PFS3 installed. Did tye PFS3 install on my A4000 instead because I couldn't get hdinsttols to find the hd in Winuae. Now I have probs with the fast ata 4000 (crap card), have installed WB3.1 on my boot partition and WB boots fine with the hd installed to the onboard IDE but when installed to the fast ata I get a ramlib error when booting. Have heard that other people also dislike the fast ata 4000.

27 April 2005, 11:55	#12
thomas Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 7,006	I have one, too and never had any problems. It's quite new, though, perhaps they updated the firmware and corrected some errors.

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