Dithell's Wonderland - 30 levels

Dan · 12 June 2022, 03:15

Hi, i have edited the Dithell's Wonderland game, which came with the Amos Pro.
It has now 30 levels and needs a 1mb machine to run.

The game can be modded - you can have multiple graphic/sound alternatives.

Edit: Added a speed option - press joystick right to change it.
Edit 2: Adjusted the speed, again.
Edit 3 28.12.2022: Uploaded a new file.

Have fun.

gimbal · 12 June 2022, 20:33

Jeepers, the movement speed is insane. Dang near unplayable to me.

NeoHippie2016 · 13 June 2022, 01:29

Thank you, @Dan! I will try it in the next week...

Dan · 15 June 2022, 22:13

Hmm, yes i see, when compiled it is running a bit too fast.
i could slow it down a bit, if people want it. (or add an option for it ?!)

gimbal · 15 June 2022, 23:46

Please do make it playable

TCD · 15 June 2022, 23:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by gimbal

Please do make it playable

What the crazy rabbit said

Minuous · 16 June 2022, 09:11

The player definitely has far too much inertia; I see this as more of a problem than the movement speed. However, it reminds me of those phone games where the actual game is made very easy to compensate for the poor controllability, so if the controls were fixed it might need to be made a bit harder in other ways to prevent it from being too easy.

gimbal · 16 June 2022, 10:01

It's Dithell's Wonderland though, it wasn't exactly made to be a hard game

Surprisingly fun though. It has the idea of Carvup but lacking everything that makes Carvup annoying to play.

Dan · 16 June 2022, 19:40

Hi, i have updated the attachment from my 1st post, now with updated version to start with a bit slower playing speed.

Enjoy.

gimbal · 17 June 2022, 22:12

Definitely more playable, but I think you overshot it a little

Dan · 18 June 2022, 08:47

Ok reuploaded it again.

The wait command is now at 1 for the slow, and 2 for the slower. (was 2 and 4 in the 2nd attempt).

Lower than that it can not go.

gimbal · 18 June 2022, 18:13

"The selected floppy disk image is not bootable (boot block checksum error)"

Retro1234 · 18 June 2022, 21:12

iirc the game has a very basic built in timer to slow it down on faster amigas.
I seem to remember the coder was someone good?

not the best example in the world bit spaghetti. Uses zones for collision. IFF for background. Width limited to basic 1024 various things. Would of been a cool example if code was tidy and nicely commetted.

Dan · 18 June 2022, 22:52

The game checks, at the very beginning, a timer for a loop, and sets a variable to 1 if it is faster.
Later in the game code it adds a wait vbl if the variable (a3000) is 1. That is all i could find.

But the problem is that the compiled version runs way too fast, compared to the uncompiled version.

I guess a compiler was not (yet) available, when the game was made ...

The Coder is Darren Ithell.

rabidgerry · 07 October 2022, 10:51

Tried this game and it seems fun. However, seems a little quick as people have mentioned. I've downloaded again to see if I can us the slow down options. It's a shame the speed can't be kept as it really is slick feeling. But too slippery on platforms etc

Has anyone tried Dithell in Space?

Megalomaniac · 07 October 2022, 15:35

I think Darren Ithell did one of the games in that commercial ST bundle of STOS games (Games Galore?), so he clearly knew the language. He ended up working with STOS creator Francois Lionet on the Klik & Play package on the PC, funnily enough.

gimbal · 10 October 2022, 14:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabidgerry

Has anyone tried Dithell in Space?

I tried the original way back when. I remember it being a better playable game than the original, but ultimately far too easy.

rabidgerry · 12 October 2022, 12:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by gimbal

I tried the original way back when. I remember it being a better playable game than the original, but ultimately far too easy.

I'm not liking how the slow version appears on my display, it's like a really shoppy framerate. Playing it fast looks much better but obviously it's crazy hard to get used to. Made it to level 3 so far.

Dan · 12 October 2022, 18:19

Hi, i must have played the game a lot so that i do not see what you all mean.

I have uploaded a test version.

You can change the max movement speed with arrow up/down
and inertia multiplier with arrow left/right.

(p.s. it resets after each level or after death)

You will see it above the score, currently it is 7 / 3 (you have to press the arrow keys or to get a score point for it to be shown the 1st time)

If you give me the numbers at which it plays ok, ill change them permanently in the game.

Dan · 28 December 2022, 00:20

Hi,
I'v uploaded a new version of the Game. (1st post)

Added a mod, xmas themed. (sorry no new levels)
Made the Adf bootable. (Action replay 3 bootblock)

Small bugfix: fixed a crash when in fallthrough mode and on balloon, going offscreen. Now the balloon stops at the bottom.

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12 June 2022, 20:33	#2
gimbal cheeky scoundrel Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Spijkenisse/Netherlands Age: 42 Posts: 6,922	Jeepers, the movement speed is insane. Dang near unplayable to me.

13 June 2022, 01:29	#3
NeoHippie2016 Freak Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Gladbeck Age: 47 Posts: 580	Thank you, @Dan! I will try it in the next week...

15 June 2022, 22:13	#4
Dan Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 629	Hmm, yes i see, when compiled it is running a bit too fast. i could slow it down a bit, if people want it. (or add an option for it ?!)

15 June 2022, 23:46	#5
gimbal cheeky scoundrel Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Spijkenisse/Netherlands Age: 42 Posts: 6,922	Please do make it playable

16 June 2022, 09:11	#7
Minuous Coder/webmaster/gamer Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Canberra/Australia Posts: 2,643	The player definitely has far too much inertia; I see this as more of a problem than the movement speed. However, it reminds me of those phone games where the actual game is made very easy to compensate for the poor controllability, so if the controls were fixed it might need to be made a bit harder in other ways to prevent it from being too easy.

16 June 2022, 10:01	#8
gimbal cheeky scoundrel Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Spijkenisse/Netherlands Age: 42 Posts: 6,922	It's Dithell's Wonderland though, it wasn't exactly made to be a hard game Surprisingly fun though. It has the idea of Carvup but lacking everything that makes Carvup annoying to play.

16 June 2022, 19:40	#9
Dan Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 629	Hi, i have updated the attachment from my 1st post, now with updated version to start with a bit slower playing speed. Enjoy.

17 June 2022, 22:12	#10
gimbal cheeky scoundrel Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Spijkenisse/Netherlands Age: 42 Posts: 6,922	Definitely more playable, but I think you overshot it a little

18 June 2022, 08:47	#11
Dan Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 629	Ok reuploaded it again. The wait command is now at 1 for the slow, and 2 for the slower. (was 2 and 4 in the 2nd attempt). Lower than that it can not go.

18 June 2022, 18:13	#12
gimbal cheeky scoundrel Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Spijkenisse/Netherlands Age: 42 Posts: 6,922	"The selected floppy disk image is not bootable (boot block checksum error)"

18 June 2022, 21:12	#13
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,782	iirc the game has a very basic built in timer to slow it down on faster amigas. I seem to remember the coder was someone good? not the best example in the world bit spaghetti. Uses zones for collision. IFF for background. Width limited to basic 1024 various things. Would of been a cool example if code was tidy and nicely commetted.

18 June 2022, 22:52	#14
Dan Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 629	The game checks, at the very beginning, a timer for a loop, and sets a variable to 1 if it is faster. Later in the game code it adds a wait vbl if the variable (a3000) is 1. That is all i could find. But the problem is that the compiled version runs way too fast, compared to the uncompiled version. I guess a compiler was not (yet) available, when the game was made ... The Coder is Darren Ithell.

07 October 2022, 10:51	#15
rabidgerry Registered User Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Belfast Posts: 1,530	Tried this game and it seems fun. However, seems a little quick as people have mentioned. I've downloaded again to see if I can us the slow down options. It's a shame the speed can't be kept as it really is slick feeling. But too slippery on platforms etc Has anyone tried Dithell in Space?

07 October 2022, 15:35	#16
Megalomaniac Registered User Join Date: Sep 2022 Location: Eastbourne Posts: 1,025	I think Darren Ithell did one of the games in that commercial ST bundle of STOS games (Games Galore?), so he clearly knew the language. He ended up working with STOS creator Francois Lionet on the Klik & Play package on the PC, funnily enough.

28 December 2022, 00:20	#20
Dan Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 629	Hi, I'v uploaded a new version of the Game. (1st post) Added a mod, xmas themed. (sorry no new levels) Made the Adf bootable. (Action replay 3 bootblock) Small bugfix: fixed a crash when in fallthrough mode and on balloon, going offscreen. Now the balloon stops at the bottom.

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