ACA1233n FPU/Jumpers?

BMD · 17 September 2018, 20:08

So i ordered my 68882 FPU and its socket... check

Ordered the 50Mhz oscillator and its socket... check

Solder ... check

Soldering iron ... check

wait... whats this "Disable" jumper... hrmmm
looks like it was used then removed at the factory...

WHAT, there's more? hrmm there is a "NMI" Jumper...
doesn't look like its been used.

Hrmmm there's 4 holes on the rear of the board labeled "TEST"
Never used either...

I know none of these pertain to the FPU installation, but what for?

Thoughts?

Also are there any other known MODS or anything else about this card?

Vypr · 17 September 2018, 21:28

The only instructions I have found on adding an FPU to a ACA1233n is to disable burst mode but that's done via software.

BMD · 17 September 2018, 22:09

yeah saw that. funny how he states in the "short manual" to look at the wiki for installation help and thats all you get.

also to set waitsates to 0

Vypr · 18 September 2018, 11:42

To be fair, he does recommend against installing an FPU on this board, I believe it causes issues on memory timing and renders the board unstable. I was swithering whether to fit one on my 1233n till I realised I didn't actually run anything that requires an FPU.

d3cka2d3pwood · 18 September 2018, 13:20

I have a 1233n and it works perfectly plug and play, not sure about adding a FPU though.
I recently contacted the manufacturer (individual computers) about my brothers 1221ec and Jens is very helpful.

demolition · 18 September 2018, 13:23

Two wild guesses:

Disable: Disables the card
NMI: Not a jumper but a header for an NMI switch (used to trigger debuggers for example)
The test pins could be anything. Some times they are used for some kind of serial interface like I2C but I am not sure the ACAs are using I2C for anything. I suggest you don't mess with them as they are probably not very useful to you anyway.

Also, what do you need an FPU for? Adding one could make the card unstable and slower, so unless you really know why you need an FPU, then I'd just leave it out.

BMD · 26 September 2018, 02:23

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Installed VIA Sockets for easy removal...

BMD · 28 September 2018, 06:10

MC68030RC50C ordered (Getting the actual Motorola chip, replacing the chip produced by Freescale) MC68030RC40C on board is a clone. Being bumped up 10 mhz!

esel · 29 September 2018, 23:40

Why do you think the onboard 030 is a clone ? looking at the pics in the video it looks 100% real. and i dont thing IComp uses fake chips.
Btw its an MC68030RC40B not C onboard.

BMD · 29 September 2018, 23:45

mine is a C sir and yes mine is a clone it is NOT a Motorola chip

video is not mine thats a ACA1233 not a ACA1233n

esel · 30 September 2018, 19:40

Some aca 1233n have freescale 030 with is a 100% Original 030 Cpu.
That is Not a clone !

madpete · 07 October 2018, 14:08

Hi BMD, hoping you can help me out...

I have a ACA1233n and I want to do the same thing, add an FPU.

I've having trouble identifying exactly what's needed, as there doesn't seem to be a great deal of info around!

I think I need a 68882 in 68pin PGA format, and a 68pin PGA socket correct?

And a Oscillator Crystal, but I'm struggling to confirm it's socket and type? Is it 14-dil dip with 4 pin?

Also wondering where you got your parts from, and they seem quite hard to find... esp the 68882. Though I am in the UK, so it may not be applicable.

I would super appreciate any help you can throw my way!

Many thanks, Pete.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMD

So i ordered my 68882 FPU and its socket... check

Ordered the 50Mhz oscillator and its socket... check

Solder ... check

Soldering iron ... check

wait... whats this "Disable" jumper... hrmmm
looks like it was used then removed at the factory...

WHAT, there's more? hrmm there is a "NMI" Jumper...
doesn't look like its been used.

Hrmmm there's 4 holes on the rear of the board labeled "TEST"
Never used either...

I know none of these pertain to the FPU installation, but what for?

Thoughts?

Also are there any other known MODS or anything else about this card?

BMD · 09 October 2018, 06:24

Yes either 68881 or 68882 FPU, thats the right socket and either the short or longer oscillator will work 50Mhz make sure the Mhz matches the FPU speed, just get the same socket. Orientation! Make sure you have pin one of the FPU on the Y looking gold part of the FPU to pin one and the pointed square end of the oscillator matching up with the square print on the board weather its the smaller or longer one. Easy peasy, just keep your soldering tight inbetween the FPU pins and cleanup good afterwards. It works soon as its soldered in, you might have to ACASetWaitStates w=0 or W=1 to see which preforms better.

After its set it wont change on a reset so its a non-volitile setting by power cycle.

madpete · 12 October 2018, 00:03

Great. Many thanks for the reply man, really appreciate it!

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMD

Yes either 68881 or 68882 FPU, thats the right socket and either the short or longer oscillator will work 50Mhz make sure the Mhz matches the FPU speed, just get the same socket. Orientation! Make sure you have pin one of the FPU on the Y looking gold part of the FPU to pin one and the pointed square end of the oscillator matching up with the square print on the board weather its the smaller or longer one. Easy peasy, just keep your soldering tight inbetween the FPU pins and cleanup good afterwards. It works soon as its soldered in, you might have to ACASetWaitStates w=0 or W=1 to see which preforms better.

After its set it wont change on a reset so its a non-volitile setting by power cycle.

A1200 · 14 May 2020, 00:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMD

MC68030RC50C ordered (Getting the actual Motorola chip, replacing the chip produced by Freescale) MC68030RC40C on board is a clone. Being bumped up 10 mhz!

Freescale purchased Motorola's CPU business so its not a clone, they just renamed the chips. Even the technical documents have just been updated with a new Freescale cover page.

AmigaPeter · 05 October 2020, 20:47

Hi.

I also want to add the FPU option.
I have a ACA1233n with MC68030RC40 CPU.

Do I need a 40MHz FPU and a 40MHz oscillator?
Or is it also possible to use a MC68882RC50A and a 50MHz oscillator?

regards
Peter

quantum8 · 07 October 2020, 03:32

You can do either.:
- add the FPU and no extra oscillator. Solder the jumper FPU CLK just above the empty oscillator area and the FPU will use the CPU's clock. They will both run at 40Mhz for example.
- add FPU and oscillator and the FPU will use whatever speed oscillator you put there.

17 September 2018, 20:08	#1
BMD Amiga Man Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Shreveport, Louisiana / United States Posts: 63	ACA1233n FPU/Jumpers? So i ordered my 68882 FPU and its socket... check Ordered the 50Mhz oscillator and its socket... check Solder ... check Soldering iron ... check wait... whats this "Disable" jumper... hrmmm looks like it was used then removed at the factory... WHAT, there's more? hrmm there is a "NMI" Jumper... doesn't look like its been used. Hrmmm there's 4 holes on the rear of the board labeled "TEST" Never used either... I know none of these pertain to the FPU installation, but what for? Thoughts? Also are there any other known MODS or anything else about this card? Last edited by BMD; 17 September 2018 at 20:14.

28 September 2018, 06:10	#8
BMD Amiga Man Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Shreveport, Louisiana / United States Posts: 63	MC68030RC50C ordered (Getting the actual Motorola chip, replacing the chip produced by Freescale) MC68030RC40C on board is a clone. Being bumped up 10 mhz! Last edited by BMD; 28 September 2018 at 06:17.

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17 September 2018, 21:28	#2
Vypr Registered User Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: East Kilbride, Scotland Posts: 451	The only instructions I have found on adding an FPU to a ACA1233n is to disable burst mode but that's done via software.

17 September 2018, 22:09	#3
BMD Amiga Man Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Shreveport, Louisiana / United States Posts: 63	yeah saw that. funny how he states in the "short manual" to look at the wiki for installation help and thats all you get. also to set waitsates to 0

18 September 2018, 11:42	#4
Vypr Registered User Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: East Kilbride, Scotland Posts: 451	To be fair, he does recommend against installing an FPU on this board, I believe it causes issues on memory timing and renders the board unstable. I was swithering whether to fit one on my 1233n till I realised I didn't actually run anything that requires an FPU.

18 September 2018, 13:20	#5
d3cka2d3pwood Registered User Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Wakefield Posts: 80	I have a 1233n and it works perfectly plug and play, not sure about adding a FPU though. I recently contacted the manufacturer (individual computers) about my brothers 1221ec and Jens is very helpful.

18 September 2018, 13:23	#6
demolition Unregistered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Copenhagen / DK Age: 43 Posts: 4,190	Two wild guesses: Disable: Disables the card NMI: Not a jumper but a header for an NMI switch (used to trigger debuggers for example) The test pins could be anything. Some times they are used for some kind of serial interface like I2C but I am not sure the ACAs are using I2C for anything. I suggest you don't mess with them as they are probably not very useful to you anyway. Also, what do you need an FPU for? Adding one could make the card unstable and slower, so unless you really know why you need an FPU, then I'd just leave it out.

26 September 2018, 02:23	#7
BMD Amiga Man Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Shreveport, Louisiana / United States Posts: 63	[ Show youtube player ] Installed VIA Sockets for easy removal...

29 September 2018, 23:40	#9
esel Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Kassel Posts: 160	Why do you think the onboard 030 is a clone ? looking at the pics in the video it looks 100% real. and i dont thing IComp uses fake chips. Btw its an MC68030RC40B not C onboard.

29 September 2018, 23:45	#10
BMD Amiga Man Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Shreveport, Louisiana / United States Posts: 63	mine is a C sir and yes mine is a clone it is NOT a Motorola chip video is not mine thats a ACA1233 not a ACA1233n

30 September 2018, 19:40	#11
esel Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Kassel Posts: 160	Some aca 1233n have freescale 030 with is a 100% Original 030 Cpu. That is Not a clone !

09 October 2018, 06:24	#13
BMD Amiga Man Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Shreveport, Louisiana / United States Posts: 63	Yes either 68881 or 68882 FPU, thats the right socket and either the short or longer oscillator will work 50Mhz make sure the Mhz matches the FPU speed, just get the same socket. Orientation! Make sure you have pin one of the FPU on the Y looking gold part of the FPU to pin one and the pointed square end of the oscillator matching up with the square print on the board weather its the smaller or longer one. Easy peasy, just keep your soldering tight inbetween the FPU pins and cleanup good afterwards. It works soon as its soldered in, you might have to ACASetWaitStates w=0 or W=1 to see which preforms better. After its set it wont change on a reset so its a non-volitile setting by power cycle.

05 October 2020, 20:47	#16
AmigaPeter Registered User Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: Hamburg/ Germany Posts: 1	Hi. I also want to add the FPU option. I have a ACA1233n with MC68030RC40 CPU. Do I need a 40MHz FPU and a 40MHz oscillator? Or is it also possible to use a MC68882RC50A and a 50MHz oscillator? regards Peter

07 October 2020, 03:32	#17
quantum8 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: BNE AU Posts: 216	You can do either.: - add the FPU and no extra oscillator. Solder the jumper FPU CLK just above the empty oscillator area and the FPU will use the CPU's clock. They will both run at 40Mhz for example. - add FPU and oscillator and the FPU will use whatever speed oscillator you put there.

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