Prb: green or red veil on my cd32 + FMV

sayasupacrew · 07 February 2010, 12:56

I use my cd32(rev3.0) with a Full motion Mpeg card(rev2), but i've a green or red veil on screen. I've upgrad my firmware 40.22 to 40.30.
Can you help me to find a solution, maybe move a jumper on CN1 or another one ?

http://sayasupacrew.free.fr/AmigaPic/CN1_FMV_CD32.jpg
http://sayasupacrew.free.fr/AmigaPic/FMV1.JPG
http://sayasupacrew.free.fr/AmigaPic/FMV2.JPG

Chain · 07 February 2010, 13:40

CN1 arent jumper pads, its a connector, probably test connector imo.
I assume youve replaced all C250 caps without any luck.
It will be pretty hard to find a bad component without scope there.

alexh · 07 February 2010, 13:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by sayasupacrew

i've a green or red veil on screen.

Not sure what this means but do you get the same thing with the FMV cartridge removed? Most video problems I've come across are due to loose connection on the video connector. A simple solder reflow fixes it.

Are you using the SVideo socket? Composite? RF?

Chain · 07 February 2010, 14:08

still wonderin why he upgraded that eprom...

Chain · 07 February 2010, 14:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

Are you using the SVideo socket? Composite? RF?

may be is there some pal/ntsc incompatibility, like in PS2, which wit some cables has green tint.
is it possible? i assume his cd32 is ntsc machine but cart is pal, or its universal cart?

sayasupacrew · 07 February 2010, 15:46

I've no veil with FMV removed. All the colors return

I've doing the two other test with another cd32(rev4.1 a 4.0), It's the same result

all capacitors have been changed on fmv card.

We thought that the firmware was too old, that's why we have upgradé the firmware.

I use the compisite RF.

sayasupacrew · 08 February 2010, 09:14

I think that the Fullmotion card is a NTSC version. But how to see it on the card ?

StevenJGore · 08 February 2010, 10:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by sayasupacrew

I use the compisite RF.

Have you tried another output, like Video Composite or S-Video? These will give a better quality picture anyway, the RF signal is the worst of the lot.

alexh · 08 February 2010, 11:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by sayasupacrew

I use the compisite RF.

Which is it? Do you use composite or RF?

sayasupacrew · 08 February 2010, 12:41

I is only the RF video out on my CD32.

Wario17 from amigaimpact.org say that.

I have just looked at my card FMV it totally identical has yours

- Rev 2
- copyright 1993
only the urom is a different version here is the inscriptions:

- 391777-01
- V40.22
- c COMMODORE on 1993

It is not thus a NTSC

sayasupacrew · 13 March 2010, 08:21

Who can repair me the FMV module ?

Cosmos · 13 March 2010, 08:28

I have tested this FMV on some CD32 (PAL, rev 4 and 4.1 french versions) : green veil when VCD watching and pink veil on WB !

I think the FMV is NTSC... So, how to convert it to PAL ?

nujack · 13 March 2010, 12:54

Amiga Centre France can do such repairs. I had my FMV-card there two times. Great service, nice contact!!!
BTW never heared about such an NTSC-version of FMV-card. What happens when you switch to NTSC-mode in Early-Startup-menu and start a VideoCD later?

sayasupacrew · 13 March 2010, 22:06

I have to ask has Amiga Center. they say that the problem is known and repair.

Thus it is a breakdown, the price estimate 150 euros.

rkauer · 14 March 2010, 05:58

Maybe a longshot: how are the voltage levels from the power supply?

IIRC, the CD32 PSU barely copes with the basic unit itself (in the very common and bad Commodore style)...

sayasupacrew · 14 March 2010, 08:18

Wario and Me tried another PSU modified PC, the resultat is the same.

Jope · 14 March 2010, 09:26

Paint every component with an UV marker before you send it, then you know what he did.

AmigaCenter France gets the cards working but he never tells you what you're paying for. Could be one swapped resistor, could be something difficult.

nujack · 14 March 2010, 16:56

@Jope: That's not true. I've got back the defect components with the original hardware.

Jope · 14 March 2010, 18:05

Intriguing. I've repaired a CSMK2 and a CSPPC there and only got vague remarks like "there's something around the clock circuitry". If I hadn't asked, I wouldn't have had even that, merely a price quote.

Naturally we're paying for his expertise, but if I get just about anything else done by someone else, I know what they did / what was really wrong if I ask.

Sure, the job gets done, but at least I feel a bit strange if I ask what was done and only get something very vague.

sayasupacrew · 14 March 2010, 18:43

I is not at the moment 150 euros,has t it there another repair man ?

07 February 2010, 12:56	#1
sayasupacrew Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: noirmoutier france Age: 54 Posts: 45	Prb: green or red veil on my cd32 + FMV I use my cd32(rev3.0) with a Full motion Mpeg card(rev2), but i've a green or red veil on screen. I've upgrad my firmware 40.22 to 40.30. Can you help me to find a solution, maybe move a jumper on CN1 or another one ? http://sayasupacrew.free.fr/AmigaPic/CN1_FMV_CD32.jpg http://sayasupacrew.free.fr/AmigaPic/FMV1.JPG http://sayasupacrew.free.fr/AmigaPic/FMV2.JPG Last edited by sayasupacrew; 08 February 2010 at 08:41.

07 February 2010, 15:46	#6
sayasupacrew Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: noirmoutier france Age: 54 Posts: 45	I've no veil with FMV removed. All the colors return I've doing the two other test with another cd32(rev4.1 a 4.0), It's the same result all capacitors have been changed on fmv card. We thought that the firmware was too old, that's why we have upgradé the firmware. I use the compisite RF. Last edited by sayasupacrew; 25 February 2010 at 23:07.

08 February 2010, 12:41	#10
sayasupacrew Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: noirmoutier france Age: 54 Posts: 45	I is only the RF video out on my CD32. Wario17 from amigaimpact.org say that. I have just looked at my card FMV it totally identical has yours - Rev 2 - copyright 1993 only the urom is a different version here is the inscriptions: - 391777-01 - V40.22 - c COMMODORE on 1993 It is not thus a NTSC Last edited by sayasupacrew; 08 February 2010 at 22:59.

14 March 2010, 08:18	#16
sayasupacrew Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: noirmoutier france Age: 54 Posts: 45	Wario and Me tried another PSU modified PC, the resultat is the same. Last edited by sayasupacrew; 14 March 2010 at 08:28.

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07 February 2010, 13:40	#2
Chain A-Collector, repairments Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Czech Rep. Age: 50 Posts: 1,536	CN1 arent jumper pads, its a connector, probably test connector imo. I assume youve replaced all C250 caps without any luck. It will be pretty hard to find a bad component without scope there.

07 February 2010, 14:08	#4
Chain A-Collector, repairments Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Czech Rep. Age: 50 Posts: 1,536	still wonderin why he upgraded that eprom...

08 February 2010, 09:14	#7
sayasupacrew Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: noirmoutier france Age: 54 Posts: 45	I think that the Fullmotion card is a NTSC version. But how to see it on the card ?

13 March 2010, 08:21	#11
sayasupacrew Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: noirmoutier france Age: 54 Posts: 45	Who can repair me the FMV module ?

13 March 2010, 08:28	#12
Cosmos Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: France Posts: 655	I have tested this FMV on some CD32 (PAL, rev 4 and 4.1 french versions) : green veil when VCD watching and pink veil on WB ! I think the FMV is NTSC... So, how to convert it to PAL ?

13 March 2010, 12:54	#13
nujack Zone Friend Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Leipzig/Germany Age: 49 Posts: 458	Amiga Centre France can do such repairs. I had my FMV-card there two times. Great service, nice contact!!! BTW never heared about such an NTSC-version of FMV-card. What happens when you switch to NTSC-mode in Early-Startup-menu and start a VideoCD later?

13 March 2010, 22:06	#14
sayasupacrew Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: noirmoutier france Age: 54 Posts: 45	I have to ask has Amiga Center. they say that the problem is known and repair. Thus it is a breakdown, the price estimate 150 euros.

14 March 2010, 05:58	#15
rkauer I hate potatos and shirts Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sao Leopoldo / Brazil Age: 58 Posts: 3,482	Maybe a longshot: how are the voltage levels from the power supply? IIRC, the CD32 PSU barely copes with the basic unit itself (in the very common and bad Commodore style)...

14 March 2010, 09:26	#17
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,861	Paint every component with an UV marker before you send it, then you know what he did. AmigaCenter France gets the cards working but he never tells you what you're paying for. Could be one swapped resistor, could be something difficult.

14 March 2010, 16:56	#18
nujack Zone Friend Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Leipzig/Germany Age: 49 Posts: 458	@Jope: That's not true. I've got back the defect components with the original hardware.

14 March 2010, 18:05	#19
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,861	Intriguing. I've repaired a CSMK2 and a CSPPC there and only got vague remarks like "there's something around the clock circuitry". If I hadn't asked, I wouldn't have had even that, merely a price quote. Naturally we're paying for his expertise, but if I get just about anything else done by someone else, I know what they did / what was really wrong if I ask. Sure, the job gets done, but at least I feel a bit strange if I ask what was done and only get something very vague.

14 March 2010, 18:43	#20
sayasupacrew Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: noirmoutier france Age: 54 Posts: 45	I is not at the moment 150 euros,has t it there another repair man ?

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