06 July 2013, 09:36 | #1 |
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Indivision AGA Mk2 CR
I've had the pleasure of seeing one of these little devices in action today and the picture is absolutely clear. Credit where credit is due, Jens you did a good job on the design.
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06 July 2013, 12:05 | #2 |
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The mailman just delivered mine.
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06 July 2013, 13:20 | #3 |
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I have to be honest, I brought one a few weeks ago and took it out a week later, the accompanying software is flakey at best, I mainly use my Miggy for games and if thats your thing then this is pretty much useless, games do not look good with the AGA MKII, no smooth scrolling etc. I will be selling mine soon on AmiBay.
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06 July 2013, 13:25 | #4 |
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Oh crap..
In that case I'll use it in my spare A1200. |
06 July 2013, 15:34 | #5 |
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I've heard all the too and fro on the device, I would think Jens is a very good hardware technician but fairly ordinary on software from what I've read.
If people have an idea about how much time and effort goes into making these little adapters and interfaces I am sure they would be more understanding. From a hardware technician point of view I like the design and implementation and from what I saw today I was impressed. |
06 July 2013, 15:46 | #6 |
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If you want smooth scrolling and to see Games how they were meant to be played/displayed then go for an old Skool CRT.
If you want to use a high resolution Workbench on a modern LCD then the Indivision is a must have, just don't expect miracles, you're plugging new hardware into a 20 year old computer to display on a modern screen, this isn't how the A1200 was meant to be used so of course purists will not get the experience they expect from Games. As for the config tool, it's still in Beta, I'm sure in time it will become easier to use |
06 July 2013, 18:06 | #7 |
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Just to clarlfy, Im not dissing the device at all, I think that it's great that stuff like this is still made for the amiga in 2013, im sure for some it's a really great little bit of kit, I'm just saying that as pure old school gamer it's not for me that's all.
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06 July 2013, 18:21 | #8 |
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I installed it my main A1200 anyway.
Nice clear and crisp picture on my old Samsung 1100DF 21" CRT. Games looks great too tbh. It's there to stay for sure. |
23 July 2013, 03:17 | #9 |
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My Indivision ECS has ghosting.
Got a ticket with Amiga kit, still open for 2 weeks now lol, no one has even looked at it. There are many users with issues with ghosting. Although it sounds as the though the AGA version is better.... |
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Ghosting is caused by signal reflections on the cables or rather the ends of the cable where they are connected. If you are using a low quality VGA cable it is not uncommon to see ghosting, so if you have another one try to see if that changes anything. In this case thicker is usually better. |
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23 July 2013, 05:56 | #11 | |
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its not the monitor cable. My Sony CRT monitor is awesome. its a piece of low quality chinese crap. nothing I can do about it. Iv even tried tagging on a ferrite core to the crappy thing. nothing works. |
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23 July 2013, 07:00 | #12 |
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Can you see the image change when you move that cable around?
I get some noise on mine depending on its location relative to the MB, but it still shouldn't create ghosting, which is an impedance mismatch either in the ribbon to VGA cable transition or at the monitor end of the VGA cable. |
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I plug it into my 3 laptops with absolutely no ghosting at all. I have played with the ribbon cable,moving it does nothing. iv even tried another similar one. the grounding cable they give you does jack all. iv got it attached though. just for shits and giggles. no joy. |
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25 July 2013, 23:41 | #14 | |
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I recently installed the MKIIcr in my 1200 (rev1d4) and it worked great straight out of the box (haven't tried the tool program yet). WB looks great at 1024x768 with 16 colours and all my WHDLoad games work great too. I've had to add a fan and put a small heat sink on Alice as I noticed some arifacts on the screen initially due to heat (I have a 'real' 2.5" HD) but now all is fine. |
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25 July 2013, 23:44 | #15 |
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Those artifacts can also be from the lack of power from your PSU.
I had the same thing and I had to install 2 small fans and heatsinks. Then I read it could be because the chips had to pull harder or something (yeah, do not remember the technical term) due to the PSU so I changed to an ATX PSU and could remove the fans =) |
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26 July 2013, 02:07 | #17 |
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It depends how fussy you are I guess. I find the scrolling smooth enough for games to be playable. You can't really expect it to be perfect considering it's converting 50Hz PAL video to be within VGA spec. If you can get hold of a VGA monitor that can handle 50Hz and you set your Indi to 50Hz mode, I would imagine the scrolling should look a lot better.
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26 July 2013, 22:57 | #18 |
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I have a monitor that supports 50hz, but how do I set the Indivision to 50Hz mode??
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30 July 2013, 16:24 | #19 |
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You can download the latest versions of the config tool and the cores here:
http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/Indivision_AGA_MK2 |
30 July 2013, 19:58 | #20 |
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I have those files, but I am unable to change the output to 50hz. Its locked to 60hz.
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