RTG Games

[James]

All of these should be listed as RTG:

Aqua
Colonization
Day Of The Tentacle
Descent: Freespace
Diamond Caves
Doom
Doom II
Duke Nukem 3D
Eat The Whistle
Earth 2140
Exodus: The Last War
Fields Of Battle
Heretic
Heretic II: The Siege
Hexen
Maniacball
Megaball 4
Moonbases
Myst
Nemac IV
Nemac IV Directors Cut
Pacman 96
Puzzle Bobs
Red Mars
Sam & Max Hit The Road
Shadow Of The Third Moon
Tales From Heaven
Tales Of Tamar
Uchess
Wet
Wild Flying
Wolfenstein 3D
X-Men - Ravages Of Apocalypse
Zombie Massacre

Also:

Zombie Apocalypse (Different executable)

Probably would have been:

Knights & Merchants
Sin

[TCD]

So, do those games have a different RTG mode or do they just work with RTG screenmodes?

[James]

That gets complicated. They mostly allow you to select any screen. But some like Myst have two executables and colonization has a tooltype to allow it to be run on the Workbench screen. None of them need to be promoted though - there are a few games that can be run on RTG screens through promotion that I didn't bother to list.

[amigakit.com]

Dont forget for Classic Amiga with RTG:

AB3DII (RTG patch)
Foundation
GloomDeluxe
OpenTransportTycoon
OpenRedAlert
Payback
Quake
Quake II
Virtual GP
WipeOut 2097

[TCD]

Well, to make it a bit clearer : If there is a different RTG mode, we'd list them as RTG games. If the game only works with an RTG screenmode, but offers no advantages over an AGA screenmode, we'd not list them as RTG games. Would be nice if you could sort out those which have a screenmode not available with AGA

[James]

Think Gloom Quake1/2 and VirtualGP are already listed correctly. Didn't bother to mention AB3DII as it is very buggy. The other two are not listed and there are a lot more that could be added. Such as Diamond Caves II, James Bond....

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

If the game only works with an RTG screenmode, but offers no advantages over an AGA screenmode, we'd not list them as RTG games.

Well seeing as I have an A1500 CV3D with no passthrough and no AGA the advantage is that i can play them!

But if that's not good enough I will look through them to see if they qualify - but I think most will.

[TCD]

Originally Posted by James

But if that's not good enough I will look through them to see if they qualify - but I think most will.

That would be great, thanks

[James]

Oooops deleted my last post by accident. Getting late and I'm getting tired. Will sort this tomorrow.

[TCD]

Originally Posted by James

Oooops deleted my last post by accident. Getting late and I'm getting tired. Will sort this tomorrow.

Restored your post No worries, will add the info once you've confirmed it, no need to rush.

[James]

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

Restored your post No worries, will add the info once you've confirmed it, no need to rush.

Thanks for cleaning up my mess, here goes:

No major differences:

Aqua
Colonization
Maniacball
Megaball 4
Moonbases
Pacman 96
Shadow Of The Third Moon
Tales From Heaven
Uchess
Wild Flying
Wolfenstein 3D
Zombie Apocalypse

These should be listed as RTG:

Day Of The Tentacle - Higher resolutions
Descent: Freespace - Higher resolutions + more colours
Diamond Caves - Broken in lores but great in hires 1024*768*256 on my A1500!
Doom - Higher resolutions
Doom II - Higher resolutions
Duke Nukem 3D - Higher resolutions
Eat The Whistle - Higher resolutions
Earth 2140 - The expansion pack is already listed as RTG
Fields Of Battle - More colours
Heretic - Higher resolutions + more colours
Heretic II: The Siege - Heretic II engine already listed as RTG
Myst - More colours (+ a clickBOOM anim! )
Nemac IV - Higher resolutions
Nemac IV Directors Cut - Higher resolutions
Puzzle Bobs - Higher resolutions + more colours
Sam & Max Hit The Road - Higher resolutions
X-Men - Ravages Of Apocalypse - Quake engine already listed as RTG
Zombie Massacre - Gloom Deluxe engine already listed as RTG

Don't care:
Knights & Merchants
Sin

Still to confirm:

Exodus: The Last War - Probably not?
Hexen - Think at least one engine allows higher resolution?
Red Mars - Probably not?
Tales Of Tamar - No idea!
Wet - No idea!

Noticed X-Men is listed as Ravages Of The Apocalypse - it should be The Ravages Of Apocalypse (Apocalypse is a villain)

[TCD]

Thanks for checking them I have some manuals to convert and add, but afterwards I will update those entries

[Zetr0]

@TCD

Could the titles be listed (with no advantage to Native Screen Mode) as RTG compatible, where as the others listed as RTG featured or perhaps something similar?

[TCD]

Will have a word with Cody about that, but if we add that, we should also add which ECS/OCS games work on AGA...

[Zetr0]

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

Will have a word with Cody about that, but if we add that, we should also add which ECS/OCS games work on AGA...

While I understand what you are saying, its a given that most ECS/OCS games will work with an AGA chipset, so to be fair (and reduce work load) it would be easier if there was a tick-box or something that states

AGA Compatible? [ NO ].

infact a little script can place this in or ignore it if the field is not entered or is a value other than NO.

However, In all honesty we are only talking about adding an extra field for Amiga RTG compatibility. In the such that information on RTG compatible games or or RTG featured games would be a great boon of info for HOL and the members whom have RTG graphics solutions and are looking for games to use with it.

[TCD]

What's the problem with other AGA (or even ECS/OCS) games on RTG systems? We had the discussion about adding the info about which hardware configurations a game would run on a while ago (which does include this topic) and I think if we add this kind of information then it should in a more general way then just to add RTG compatibility. Will ask Cody to add his thoughts about it as well here.

[Zetr0]

@TCD

that sounds like a plan, although to add more fuel for debate, would some games that have a different executable that awards extra features for RTG users be another Game Entry in its own right?

[TCD]

AFAIK it depends if the game was sold seperately.