Having trouble creating HDD for 1.3 A500

[trydowave]

Hi. I've managed to install WB1.3 through shell but I cant seem to install anything else afterwards.

For example. I installed Dpaint IV into a virtual drive I named programs DH1. But in the A500 install its not visible. Theres no view all option in 1.3 like there is 3.1 either.
I then tried to install it to DH0 WB1.3 drive so I could at least view it. But it said it ran out of space?

How is this possible on a virtual drive and am I doing something wrong when setting up separate drives (DH1 - Programs, DH2 Games) on this 1.3 install.

I have an A1200 16mb HDD config aswell on winuae and it works fine.

Cheers
Tony

[Arnie]

Are the "Virtual Drives" pc dirs or HDF's.

All dirs, tools, projects need an .info file of the same name to show up in WB1.3.

eg. There should be a DpaintIV.info file as well as the DpaintIV dir. Open a shell and type>
dir DH1: . This will show you what's on the drive.

[trydowave]

There is an info file for Dpaint IV in the program folder (viewing from windows).
But, when I do as you suggessted in Winuae I get a message saying

"Please insert volume DH1 in any drive".

Must of done something very wrong here.

[PaulyQ]

Does a500 stock rom support HDD? could be wrong but thought A500 needed a 2.0 rom to run hard drive?

[TCD]

@trydowave
Can you attach your config? I guess something is wrong with the way you entered 'DH1' into WinUAE...

@PaulyQ
1.3 supports HDs just fine.

[trydowave]

Hope this makes sense to you ...


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input.3.keyboard.3.empty=true
input.3.keyboard.3.disabled=0
input.3.keyboard.4.empty=true
input.3.keyboard.4.disabled=0
input.3.keyboard.5.empty=true
input.3.keyboard.5.disabled=0
input.3.keyboard.6.empty=true
input.3.keyboard.6.disabled=0
input.3.keyboard.7.empty=true
input.3.keyboard.7.disabled=0
input.4.keyboard.0.friendlyname=RAW Keyboard (045E/0734)
input.4.keyboard.0.name=\??\HID#Vid_045e&Pid_0734&MI_00#7&5170850&0&0000#{884b96c3-56ef-11d1-bc8c-00a0c91405dd}
input.4.keyboard.0.custom=true
input.4.keyboard.1.friendlyname=WinUAE null keyboard
input.4.keyboard.1.name=NULLKEYBOARD
input.4.keyboard.1.custom=true
input.4.keyboard.2.friendlyname=WinUAE null keyboard
input.4.keyboard.2.name=NULLKEYBOARD
input.4.keyboard.2.custom=true

[Arnie]

Looks to me like the drive letter is missing for the PC dir.

eg.

filesystem2=rw,HD0:Workbench:F:\Amiga\WinUAE\HardDrives\Sys3.1,0
uaehf0=dir,rw,HD0:Workbench:F:\Amiga\WinUAE\HardDrives\Sys3.1,0
filesystem2=rw,HD1:Work:F:\Amiga\WinUAE\HardDrives\Work,0
uaehf1=dir,rw,HD1:Work:F:\Amiga\WinUAE\HardDrives\Work,0

[trydowave]

I got a D rather than an F? Also. Any idea how to fix this?
Cheers
Tony

[demolition]

That's just this silly board converting ': D' (without the space) into a smiley. It's easier if you attach it as a file or maybe a CODE segment.

[TCD]

Try [noparse] and [/noparse] then you can :D as much as you want

[trydowave]

...i'm still stuck. Any ideas how to resolve this?

[TCD]

You only have DH0 and not DH1 or DH2 showing up? Maybe remove the space from the path. So make it:

D:\Emulation\Winuae_201\A500_HDD\Workbench_13

[Arnie]

Did you format DH1, DH2: as FFS?

[trydowave]

Not sure... how do I do that?

If i remember right I created the DH0 first following these instructions...
http://cpc464.back2roots.org/guides/...rkbench_13.htm

After all that I saved the config.

Then I created some new folders in windows. One called programs, one called games. I added a harddrive and set DH1 - Programs - searched through the directory until i found the folder i created in windows. And so on for DH2 - games.
They're in the same folder as the workbench 1.3 folder, which has workbench installed and is visable from the amiga in winuae.

Did the problems arise after i created the install for workbench?
Should I just start the whole thing over and create all 3 folders at the same time?

Thanks
Tony

[TCD]

Normally it should show up afterwards. I'll have a look tomorrow with a 1.3 WB HD. I know I did it in the past, but just to confirm how to get it working.

btw... FFS won't work with 1.3, but I doubt you formatted them under 3.1 with that option enabled to begin with.

[trydowave]

Thats the weird thing. I've already done this under an A1200 config and it worked perfectly. No formatting.
Repeated under 1.3 I get the problems.

But then, installing workbench was different in A1200 config. I didnt have to use the shell.

[TCD]

Okay, created a blank folder, mounted as DH0, copied both 1.3.3 disks over. Started it booted fine. Afterwards added a 'Games' folder as DH1 and reset it. The games folder showed up just fine...

I'm a bit out of ideas Try it with 1.3.3 if you haven't already and rule out any other problems. Hopefully somebody has an idea what's wrong here. Good luck and fingers crossed you can get it sorted

[LocalH]

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

Normally it should show up afterwards. I'll have a look tomorrow with a 1.3 WB HD. I know I did it in the past, but just to confirm how to get it working.

btw... FFS won't work with 1.3, but I doubt you formatted them under 3.1 with that option enabled to begin with.

Actually, 1.3 included the first (AFAIK) public release of FFS. It just didn't support them on floppies. It could either be installed in the RDB or used from L: (but I'm not sure if it would have to be referenced from a Mountlist entry or if the OS will recognize the DosType and automatically load L:FastFileSystem).

In older versions of WinUAE, you could copy L:FastFileSystem outside of the emulated Amiga and point WinUAE to it in the hard drive options, but I'm not sure if that's still possible or not (but I think it probably is, someone else would have to confirm this for me).

One thing to remember - 1.3 FFS does not support International mode (DOS\2), [b]nor[b] directory cache (DOS\3, or DOS\4 with Int'l also enabled). If the drive was formatted under 3.1 with it enabled, you'll have to back up all the data from that HDF and copy it back to a newly formatted HDF without Int'l and/or DC (1.3 FFS only supports DOS\0 and DOS\1 volumes).

[trydowave]

My mistake. When I installed Dpaint IV to programs I installed it into a folder called programs within programs.
I went back into windows and moved Dpaint install file back to the orginal root directory.

Back in winuae Dpaint icon is now visible. I just have one more question. How can I make a folder visible? In workbench 3.1 I can pull down a menu and select view all (cant remember if its called that exactly) But in 1.3 I don't have the option.

Cheers
Tony

[TCD]

You have to copy another .info file over to make a folder 'visible' on WB 1.3 (or create it via 'duplicate' within WB). There's an 'Empty' folder you can use for that