Amiga/C64 ---> PC Joystick

P-J · 15 January 2004, 10:53

Does anyone know (it's a while since I've delved into this) any good links to purchase adaptors for old 9-pin joysticks to convert to a PC gameport or preferably, a USB port?

I'm sure lots of people have looked into this once or twice, so share!

Amiga1992 · 15 January 2004, 17:42

There were Parallel port adaptors but none for the joystick port, even less the USB port.

Well, the Competition Pro joysticks that were sold for PC were normal Atari-type joysticks bundled in with an adapter for the PC joystick port. Probably you want to score one of these!

Alternatively, you can buy the Catweasel Mk3 card, and besides having two (or one? I forgot) atari-type joystick ports, you can have a real SID chip for listening to sidmusic, and you have a helluva disk controller that will read most any shit you throw at it.

P-J · 15 January 2004, 18:26

Hmm, I dug deeper and found this...

Anyone know anything about these?

whiteb · 31 January 2004, 01:04

Quote:

Originally posted by P-J
Hmm, I dug deeper and found this...

Anyone know anything about these?

Whats a good program to make a PCB design... if I can find software thats easy to use for a non CAD person to use I could make a PCB layout I guess.

Overdoc · 31 January 2004, 01:47

If you are into Quickshot sticks then there exists a model which has a standard PC connector, but is a digital stick and feels and plays like it's C64/Amiga brother

I have such a stick for sale if you are interested.

Also the Competition Pro stick exists in a version with PC connector, but since I have only one of this I don't sell it.

Generally, these sticks are quite rare and difficult to find

When one pops up on Ebay now and then it always climbs to astronomic prices !

I think someone once mentioned in another message board that he built or bought that adapter you posted, and he was fully satisfied with that thingy

whiteb · 31 January 2004, 02:07

I just want to use a PCB program to generate a PCB from a schematic I have, that simple minded people can use

make an amiga to PC joystick adapter.

Enverex · 31 January 2004, 12:05

There is a program called Crocodile Clips that is quite basic but can generate the prints for PCB...

P-J · 02 February 2004, 20:42

Same here personally-- I'm interested in this device so I can use Amiga joysticks on the Amiga, C64 joysticks on the C64, Megadrive pads on the Megadrive and so on and so forth.

I e-mailed the developer to see if he's making any at the moment and he said possibly in a months time or so.

I might try and knock one up from the PCB diagram on his site, but I'd rather wait and see what he comes up with...

Korodny · 02 February 2004, 23:23

If you own a 4-player adaptor for your Amiga, you can simply plug it into you PC's parallel port and connect one or two digital joysticks to it. The neccessary drivers are available here.

Here you can find instructions for building such an adaptor.

whiteb · 02 February 2004, 23:30

Quote:

Originally posted by Enverex
There is a program called Crocodile Clips that is quite basic but can generate the prints for PCB...

Cute program but it doesnt support IC's, it only supports VERY basic circuits. a battery, a few resistors and a lightbulb, with a switch etc.

whiteb · 02 February 2004, 23:32

Quote:

Originally posted by Korodny
If you own a 4-player adaptor for your Amiga, you can simply plug it into you PC's parallel port and connect one or two digital joysticks to it. The neccessary drivers are available here.

Here you can find instructions for building such an adaptor.

cool, but its gonna need WinUAE support though isnt it ?

I thought the other schematic doesnt need drivers, its the TTL that makes the PC think its actually got PC joysticks attatched.

T.R.Schmidt · 14 December 2004, 16:52

If you haven´t already heard of it: the Competition Pro is for sale again!

With USB-Interface, 4 real Buttons, Auto-Fire, and the same old look. I just ordered one, and I´ll write a review if I have testet it (will it still resist flying against walls... falling outside the window....?)

More in my Turrican News at http://turrican.nemmelheim.de

Sune Salminen · 14 December 2004, 17:21

Maybe this will work. I am not sure if support for it has to be coded into the emulators you want to use it with or if it will work with anything. I am not sure what "Atari compatible" really means, but I know the plug is the same as on the Amiga and the C64.

http://www.atariage.com/store/produc...roducts_id=267

Titler · 14 December 2004, 19:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by T.R.Schmidt

If you haven´t already heard of it: the Competition Pro is for sale again!

With USB-Interface, 4 real Buttons, Auto-Fire, and the same old look. I just ordered one, and I´ll write a review if I have testet it (will it still resist flying against walls... falling outside the window....?)

More in my Turrican News at http://turrican.nemmelheim.de

Yes, but how do those of us who don't speak German and dare not invoke the mighty confusing powers of the Babelfish order such a nostalgerific device?

T.R.Schmidt · 14 December 2004, 19:17

Well, in doubt - http://search.ebay.co.uk/competition...Z1QQsoloctogZ9

It´s only a special offer, not the only place where you can buy it - and I fear buying it in germany from e.g. uk would be to expensive at shipping - so this tip is only in german, sorry.

If anybody knows a good shop in other countries, let me know and I´ll write it in the news.

Photon · 14 December 2004, 20:16

Uncle Tom, who is an arcade collector just like me, only 10 times more hard-core

gives the following homebrew tip. It's easy to make, inexpensive, and if you connect it via USB gives the quickest response. It also works with every single emulator out there.

1. Get an old keyboard, the one with a real printed circuit board and not plastic overlays inside.
2. Connect the joystick's ground to the keyboard ground and the 4 directions and fire to the keyboard switches of your choice (preferably one that matches a WinUAE config). (Buy a 9-pin female joystick connector from an electronics dealer.)

We would do it to be able to use the superior arcade joysticks with blade switches that we love, and play MAME with no joystick lag. It's meant for building a PC & screen into an arcade cabinet and run MAME with arcade feeling, if you do it you might wanna do a little box for the keyboard PCB

14 December 2004, 23:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sune Salminen

Maybe this will work. I am not sure if support for it has to be coded into the emulators you want to use it with or if it will work with anything. I am not sure what "Atari compatible" really means, but I know the plug is the same as on the Amiga and the C64.

http://www.atariage.com/store/produc...roducts_id=267

I Purchased one of these adaptors recently - I can tell you it works like a dream! It plugs into the PC's USB port and you can then use an amiga or atari or C64 joystick etc with it. I plugged my C64 wico joystick in and used it on WinUAE with Kick Off etc. it works great! It should also work with the CCS64 and Vice emulators but I have not tested it on them yet.

Sune Salminen · 15 December 2004, 01:52

If your old trusty Wico works, that means any C64/Amiga compatible joystick will work with the Stelladaptor. And since it works in WinUAE it should work in any emulator that uses DirectInput, such as MAME, CCS64 (DirectX version) and many other emulators.
Very cool, thanks for the info, I've been wondering about the compatability of the Stelladaptor for some time.

manicx · 15 December 2004, 10:38

PC competitor is shit when used with emulators. There is a lag in response and it doesn't feel right. I bought one a couple of years ago and it was okay for playing simple games but not intense games with detailed control. winUAE had some problems with it but I helped Toni sort them out.

The 4-player adaptor is the way to go. Fully supported by most emulators, no lag and dead easy to built or find in eBay. Supports 2 buttons (use the diagram from the PPJoy drivers website) and only disadvantage is that it does not include +5v connections which means no Autofire if your joystick has one.

15 December 2004, 22:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sune Salminen

If your old trusty Wico works, that means any C64/Amiga compatible joystick will work with the Stelladaptor. And since it works in WinUAE it should work in any emulator that uses DirectInput, such as MAME, CCS64 (DirectX version) and many other emulators.
Very cool, thanks for the info, I've been wondering about the compatability of the Stelladaptor for some time.

I can confirm that I have have just tested it with the CCS64 Emulator and it works fine and you are right in what you stated above - the adaptor will work with any C64 or Amiga joystick.

15 January 2004, 10:53	#1
P-J Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Moorpark, California Age: 44 Posts: 1,153	Amiga/C64 ---> PC Joystick Does anyone know (it's a while since I've delved into this) any good links to purchase adaptors for old 9-pin joysticks to convert to a PC gameport or preferably, a USB port? I'm sure lots of people have looked into this once or twice, so share!

14 December 2004, 17:21	#13
Sune Salminen Dinamáquina Join Date: May 2002 Location: BH/Brasil Age: 49 Posts: 370	Stelladaptor Maybe this will work. I am not sure if support for it has to be coded into the emulators you want to use it with or if it will work with anything. I am not sure what "Atari compatible" really means, but I know the plug is the same as on the Amiga and the C64. http://www.atariage.com/store/produc...roducts_id=267

15 December 2004, 01:52	#18
Sune Salminen Dinamáquina Join Date: May 2002 Location: BH/Brasil Age: 49 Posts: 370	Great news If your old trusty Wico works, that means any C64/Amiga compatible joystick will work with the Stelladaptor. And since it works in WinUAE it should work in any emulator that uses DirectInput, such as MAME, CCS64 (DirectX version) and many other emulators. Very cool, thanks for the info, I've been wondering about the compatability of the Stelladaptor for some time.

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15 January 2004, 17:42	#2
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	There were Parallel port adaptors but none for the joystick port, even less the USB port. Well, the Competition Pro joysticks that were sold for PC were normal Atari-type joysticks bundled in with an adapter for the PC joystick port. Probably you want to score one of these! Alternatively, you can buy the Catweasel Mk3 card, and besides having two (or one? I forgot) atari-type joystick ports, you can have a real SID chip for listening to sidmusic, and you have a helluva disk controller that will read most any shit you throw at it.

15 January 2004, 18:26	#3
P-J Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Moorpark, California Age: 44 Posts: 1,153	Hmm, I dug deeper and found this... Anyone know anything about these?

31 January 2004, 01:47	#5
Overdoc Commodore Collector Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Austria Age: 53 Posts: 944	If you are into Quickshot sticks then there exists a model which has a standard PC connector, but is a digital stick and feels and plays like it's C64/Amiga brother I have such a stick for sale if you are interested. Also the Competition Pro stick exists in a version with PC connector, but since I have only one of this I don't sell it. Generally, these sticks are quite rare and difficult to find When one pops up on Ebay now and then it always climbs to astronomic prices ! I think someone once mentioned in another message board that he built or bought that adapter you posted, and he was fully satisfied with that thingy

31 January 2004, 02:07	#6
whiteb Fanatically Amiga. Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Age: 54 Posts: 1,557	I just want to use a PCB program to generate a PCB from a schematic I have, that simple minded people can use make an amiga to PC joystick adapter.

31 January 2004, 12:05	#7
Enverex Fantasy Man! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: UK Posts: 1,353	There is a program called Crocodile Clips that is quite basic but can generate the prints for PCB...

02 February 2004, 20:42	#8
P-J Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Moorpark, California Age: 44 Posts: 1,153	Same here personally-- I'm interested in this device so I can use Amiga joysticks on the Amiga, C64 joysticks on the C64, Megadrive pads on the Megadrive and so on and so forth. I e-mailed the developer to see if he's making any at the moment and he said possibly in a months time or so. I might try and knock one up from the PCB diagram on his site, but I'd rather wait and see what he comes up with...

02 February 2004, 23:23	#9
Korodny Zone Friend Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 812	If you own a 4-player adaptor for your Amiga, you can simply plug it into you PC's parallel port and connect one or two digital joysticks to it. The neccessary drivers are available here. Here you can find instructions for building such an adaptor.

14 December 2004, 16:52	#12
T.R.Schmidt Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Limburg / germany Age: 47 Posts: 121	If you haven´t already heard of it: the Competition Pro is for sale again! With USB-Interface, 4 real Buttons, Auto-Fire, and the same old look. I just ordered one, and I´ll write a review if I have testet it (will it still resist flying against walls... falling outside the window....?) More in my Turrican News at http://turrican.nemmelheim.de

14 December 2004, 19:17	#15
T.R.Schmidt Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Limburg / germany Age: 47 Posts: 121	Well, in doubt - http://search.ebay.co.uk/competition...Z1QQsoloctogZ9 It´s only a special offer, not the only place where you can buy it - and I fear buying it in germany from e.g. uk would be to expensive at shipping - so this tip is only in german, sorry. If anybody knows a good shop in other countries, let me know and I´ll write it in the news.

14 December 2004, 20:16	#16
Photon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Eksjö / Sweden Posts: 5,602	Uncle Tom, who is an arcade collector just like me, only 10 times more hard-core gives the following homebrew tip. It's easy to make, inexpensive, and if you connect it via USB gives the quickest response. It also works with every single emulator out there. 1. Get an old keyboard, the one with a real printed circuit board and not plastic overlays inside. 2. Connect the joystick's ground to the keyboard ground and the 4 directions and fire to the keyboard switches of your choice (preferably one that matches a WinUAE config). (Buy a 9-pin female joystick connector from an electronics dealer.) We would do it to be able to use the superior arcade joysticks with blade switches that we love, and play MAME with no joystick lag. It's meant for building a PC & screen into an arcade cabinet and run MAME with arcade feeling, if you do it you might wanna do a little box for the keyboard PCB

15 December 2004, 10:38	#19
manicx Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 991	PC competitor is shit when used with emulators. There is a lag in response and it doesn't feel right. I bought one a couple of years ago and it was okay for playing simple games but not intense games with detailed control. winUAE had some problems with it but I helped Toni sort them out. The 4-player adaptor is the way to go. Fully supported by most emulators, no lag and dead easy to built or find in eBay. Supports 2 buttons (use the diagram from the PPJoy drivers website) and only disadvantage is that it does not include +5v connections which means no Autofire if your joystick has one.

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