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Old 25 December 2022, 09:12   #1
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Alien Breed - extra WHDload options

Added extra WHDload options by modifying the original slave:
  • Srafe/Side-step mode while holding fire/shooting
  • Allow human players to pass through each other in 2-player mode

Please test and leave feedback!
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Old 25 December 2022, 09:16   #2
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[*]Allow human players to pass through each other in 2-player mode
That is a very welcome addition I'll try it later and report back.
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Old 25 December 2022, 09:24   #3
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After doing various tests with extra buttons using CD32 pad or keyboard keys to lock/unlock/toggle/push the strafe position..

I finally concluded that holding fire button for strafe was the most practical approach and widely available and accepted by almost everyone..


The thought for the collision hack was that players do not need to block each other through narrow paths... especially in an area where both players need to backtrack through a series of obstacles to allow the other to get specific power-ups.. as in real life a marine could maneuver around his own friendly combat soldier no matter how much heavy armour they are wearing.. but an enemy would still block you..
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That is a very welcome addition I'll try it later and report back.

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Old 25 December 2022, 11:37   #5
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very good

https://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p...89&postcount=3

please submit your source to officialize it
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Old 25 December 2022, 11:54   #6
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very good

https://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p...89&postcount=3

please submit your source to officialize it
Submitted!
http://mantis.whdload.de/view.php?id=5943

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Old 25 December 2022, 12:02   #7
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Just tested it with my wife and the pass through works perfectly The strafe option is a bit weird though. You can strafe as long as you move paralell to the direction you are currently facing, but once you start to move in diagonally to breaks the strafe.
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Old 25 December 2022, 12:04   #8
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I'll merge your additions to the patch and create an updated patch package. Thanks for the modifications.
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Old 25 December 2022, 12:07   #9
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Cool stuff! What is needed now is a patch to make the aliens stop constantly respawning!
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What is needed now is a patch to make the aliens stop constantly respawning!
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Cool stuff! What is needed now is a patch to make the aliens stop constantly respawning!
I was also considering this after I realized that respawning of the enemies is actually a good thing. Grinding by killing enemies increases your money stash, therefore allowing you to purchase keys/ammo/weapons and progress further in the game where in other situations you would get soft-locked (lack of keys).

Additionally, I dont think there is a counter for specific enemies to spawn. I believe this is a random spawning mechanism and disabling it would cause the game not to spawn any enemies anywhere, so levels would be totally empty of enemies..
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This is very cool. Do any of those options allow you to change weapons (collected so far and at currently gained/earned firepower levels) whilst playing, a bit like a top-down version of Doom? I've long thought that would be a great way to play the Alien Breed game series.
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That´s how the game should have been right from the start !

Can you do that for the Special Edition and Alien Breed 2 too ?
That would be so nice !

In any case; thank you very much ztronzo
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This is very cool. Do any of those options allow you to change weapons (collected so far and at currently gained/earned firepower levels) whilst playing, a bit like a top-down version of Doom? I've long thought that would be a great way to play the Alien Breed game series.
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Keys to change weapons in-game:
Alt left for player 1
Alt right for player 2

I had mapped them for each player to "button 2" in AmigaLive and Green button when in CD32 joypad mode

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Old 26 December 2022, 04:48   #15
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That´s how the game should have been right from the start !

Can you do that for the Special Edition and Alien Breed 2 too ?
That would be so nice !

In any case; thank you very much ztronzo
I couldn't find the WHDload source code for the SE and the current slave isn't compatible with the SE version.. will see if the original WHDload slave developers are interested in sharing the source code or if they can add the features in their next update
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I couldn't find the WHDload source code for the SE and the current slave isn't compatible with the SE version.. will see if the original WHDload slave developers are interested in sharing the source code or if they can add the features in their next update
Hopefully Wepl doesn't mind sharing his source code. You write him a PM and ask
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That´s how the game should have been right from the start !

Can you do that for the Special Edition and Alien Breed 2 too ?
That would be so nice !

In any case; thank you very much ztronzo
You can replace this file found under the "data" folder of the AB S.E. WHDload version to allow human players to go through each other.
As for the strafe mode, it requires some extra rows of code which compiling the WHDload slave from source code made it easier for me to add (than modding/butchering the original game files)...
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That´s great stuff ztronzo

Please take your time, no need to rush

I always kinda disliked Alien Breed 1,SE & Alien Breed 2
because it was so fidley to get the diagonals everytime
and then just standing there and shoot.

It feels so great to be finally able to strafe after all these years; always wanted that feature

Thank you very much ztronzo
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testing failed.... player 2 fire cancels strafe for player 1

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That´s great stuff ztronzo

Please take your time, no need to rush

I always kinda disliked Alien Breed 1,SE & Alien Breed 2
because it was so fidley to get the diagonals everytime
and then just standing there and shoot.

It feels so great to be finally able to strafe after all these years; always wanted that feature

Thank you very much ztronzo
Please check this thread for Alien Breed 2 (AGA - WHD Disk installed version)
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=112320
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