Death or Glory: Der dunkle Kaiser - How to start?

[TCD]

This is the the disk : http://hol.abime.net/5155
I've successfully installed the mission disk, but I can't see a way to start it. The miscshot (http://hol.abime.net/5155/miscshot) shows a instruction booklet, so maybe someone here has that one?
Any info is much appreciated

[Retro1234]

What type of game is it?
O Long live uncle Kaiser

[TCD]

Hehe It's a turn based strategy/RPG mix. Like some Japanese titles (Shining Force, Ogre Battle). Quite fun to play, but a bit too much text...

[daxb]

Maybe you have a look at http://mantis.whdload.de/view.php?id=2001

[TCD]

Thanks for the info daxb I feared that you might need to complete the main game first. Well, guess I'll report back in a while then

@mai
Missiondisk has a HD installer

[Retro1234]

Yep it looks ok -No hacked english versions?

[Retro-Nerd]

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

Hehe It's a turn based strategy/RPG mix. Like some Japanese titles (Shining Force, Ogre Battle). Quite fun to play, but a bit too much text...

It's a shameless Langrisser/Warsong clone, imho the best Fantasty strategy game for the Amiga.

[you8mysandwich]

Hey there!
Since I was never able to complete this game, cos it crashed at the last level and I never played "Der dunkle Kaiser" I'm offering to all those, who also liked it, but never did it to Chapter / Level 16 to upload the full game which you can just extract at the HD and play it urself.

If anyone could be able to make it:
1. not crash and make me able to finish the game
2. play "der dunkle Kaiser"

I'd really appreciate this.

Anyone interessted in this?

[StingRay]

Originally Posted by you8mysandwich

If anyone could be able to make it:
1. not crash and make me able to finish the game
2. play "der dunkle Kaiser"

I'd really appreciate this.

Anyone interessted in this?

How does it crash? What exactly happens?

[you8mysandwich]

Originally Posted by You8mysandwich

As it seems all HD Versions of Death or Glory: Das Erbe von Morgan (The battle of Morgan) [German only] are not working correctly, since you can't finish the last Chapter / Level, it just crashes and you can't play the Addon "Der dunkle Kaiser" with it, since because you need to finish first and then you WOULD be able to play. The original disks (8 disks) I used on my old Amiga 1200 aren't working aswell. You can play without problems till last level and sometime within that level it randomly crashes, theres no way to pass this point. Everything is still there, but your heros are all "E'd" (Exhausted) and you can't do anything, your enemy should actually do something, since you ended the round, but nothing happens. Save / Load works, but doesn't solve the problem in any way.

If you want to finish Death or Glory some time, use the DOS Version, it's full of bugs, but atleast you're able to finish it.
Just some hints about the bugs: You can't heal everyone with Armitas, some Heros / Units just don't get HP back.
Mana-Related Items, except mana-restore, just work in the 1st round, then they lose their effect, but still give you - Attack and - Defense or - HP / per round.

Aswell as some units, like Dragons, cant fly even if they're supposed to (Im aiming to the manual which's saying that)
All this is working with the Amiga Version correctly.

Thats my answer in the bad crack thread, hope it describes it well enough, my english isn't the best.

[daxb]

I remember the bug (WHDLoad version) that nothing happens after/before? a round. I could finish the last level (16) with saving game after each round. I also used hrtmon to cheat some values. If I remember right the deadlocks appear already some levels before. Not only in the last one. However:
http://mantis.whdload.de//view.php?id=2339

[you8mysandwich]

Okay, I just end this game. A intro appears and I cant cancel it. At the end it says "The end" and I cant do anything. After relaunching the game I cant play the new missions, even with "Der dunkle Kaiser" ( HD Version ) installed. (missions.dat or something like that is in the DOG directory).

Any solutions?

[nsd]

Originally Posted by you8mysandwich

As it seems all HD Versions of Death or Glory: Das Erbe von Morgan (The battle of Morgan) [German only] are not working correctly, since you can't finish the last Chapter / Level, it just crashes and you can't play the Addon "Der dunkle Kaiser" with it, since because you need to finish first and then you WOULD be able to play. The original disks (8 disks) I used on my old Amiga 1200 aren't working aswell. You can play without problems till last level and sometime within that level it randomly crashes, theres no way to pass this point. Everything is still there, but your heros are all "E'd" (Exhausted) and you can't do anything, your enemy should actually do something, since you ended the round, but nothing happens. Save / Load works, but doesn't solve the problem in any way.

Interesting. I remember completing the game just fine back in the day, HD installed on an A1200. Does this only apply to cracked versions? I don't really see a reason to use a crack since the game only has a couple manual checks.

[you8mysandwich]

Hey NSD, no real idea why it is working now. Maybe I passed some hidden Round - Limit or something, but I doubt that.

With the cheat I was able to end it quick it round ~20.

But "Der dunkle Kaiser" isn't starting in anyway. Anyone got the solution for that? I used the HD installer for it and nothings happening after the Outtro from "The battle of Morgan"

[Retro-Nerd]

I've uploaded the original 3-disk HD version into the Zone, preinstalled. The mission disk is also included. Never tried "Der dunkle Kaiser", because you have to finish the original game first (did this only in 1994/95). Anyway, maybe your old save game works. So you don't have to play it again completely.

btw: the old 7-8 disk version is probably not compatible with the mission disk. You had to sent your old disks to Software 2000 and got then the 3 disk HD version back, which works with the mission disk.

edit: I've played the original 8-disk game 1994/95 and completed it without any error.

[Don_Adan]

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

I've uploaded the original 3-disk HD version into the Zone, preinstalled. The mission disk is also included. Never tried "Der dunkle Kaiser", because you have to finish the original game first (did this only in 1994/95). Anyway, maybe your old save game works. So you don't have to play it again completely.

btw: the old 7-8 disk version is probably not compatible with the mission disk. You had to sent your old disks to Software 2000 and got then the 3 disk HD version back, which works with the mission disk.

edit: I've played the original 8-disk game 1994/95 and completed it without any error.

File "O2" from missions disk is corrupted (IPF version too). HD (IPF) version seems to be buggy, due don't works OK on my A2000. I don't think that can be protection problem.

[Arnie]

Originally Posted by Don_Adan

File "O2" from missions disk is corrupted (IPF version too). HD (IPF) version seems to be buggy, due don't works OK on my A2000. I don't think that can be protection problem.

What makes you think that file "O2" is corrupted. I have just installed the three disk version plus the mission disk from IPF with no errors. I can't play the game as my German is a bit limited .

[Don_Adan]

Originally Posted by Arnie

What makes you think that file "O2" is corrupted. I have just installed the three disk version plus the mission disk from IPF with no errors. I can't play the game as my German is a bit limited .

Depack this PP20 file direct from missions disk via xfddecrunch and check effects or install/depack this file a few times and compare (via CRC) depacked files.
"O2" is perhaps second outro, but perhaps it's possible to restore undamaged version of this file.

[Arnie]

In my install data/

are not crunched
o1
os1
O2 = 106396

are crunched
bp
fp

from DF0:

o2 packed = 16440

os unpacked = 106396

[Don_Adan]

Originally Posted by Arnie

In my install data/

are not crunched
o1
os1
O2 = 106396

are crunched
bp
fp

from DF0:

o2 packed = 16440

os unpacked = 106396

I checked this file more, and this file is not corrupted, but packed with buggy version of PowerPacker library. This file can be depacked correctly by hand only (depacked version is attached). This is second outro (after 19 mission) file and show "THE END" only.

BTW. If someone can translate to english attached texts (first part only), I will try to make english version of Death or Glory.