CD32 Debug Board

03 October 2010, 14:26

Sorting through lots of old stuff I came across a CD32 Debug board - is anyone interested in this before it goes in the rubbish?

Cosmos · 03 October 2010, 14:30

Picture, please !

Interested, first in line

Paul_s · 03 October 2010, 14:33

presume it's this...

http://www.amiga-hardware.com/showha...cgi?HARDID=271

03 October 2010, 15:19

Yes - that's it - if you want it you can pm/email me your address and I'll put it in the post. I don't want anything for it, just pleased if people can make use of old stuff.

Zetr0 · 03 October 2010, 15:24

I would love this - but it would cosmos shouted first

I beleive that this unit employs CIA's for Serial and Parrallel, it also has a Floppy Drive and IDE controller.

Initially the board was only ever sent to Game Developers for testing/porting software-

I would love to try my hand at developing a small 8MB fast ram card for it -

so if Cosmos decideds not to go for it (of which I seriously doubt lol)- then I would be estemely in ones debt for a crack at this little monster - perhaps make a smaller form factor version.

03 October 2010, 15:28

That's right - we had it for porting Simon the Sorcerer to the CD32 - though it's so long ago that I can remember very little abouth the process.

Charlie · 03 October 2010, 15:52

Agent 88?

Cosmos · 03 October 2010, 17:00

> I don't want anything for it, just pleased if people can make use of old stuff

Oh là là...

Ok, Zetro, it's for you...

Zetr0 · 04 October 2010, 04:03

@Cosmos

Only if you are sure my friend,

I can make you this promise that once I have mapped out the adapter I will send it onto you =)

Cosmos · 04 October 2010, 06:45

I prefere an SX32 Pro : I need that for my Kickstart 3.9.1...

CD32Freak · 27 May 2022, 08:41

Almost twelve years later...what happend to this debug board? Could the owner dump the developer kickstart and share it with the community? Apparently you need this ROM to make the IDE part work. Thanks in advance.

alexh · 27 May 2022, 14:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by CD32Freak

Almost twelve years later...what happend to this debug board? Could the owner dump the developer kickstart and share it with the community? Apparently you need this ROM to make the IDE part work. Thanks in advance.

I very much doubt it needed a ROM on the board to make the IDE work. The TF328 IDE works fine without a ROM. It uses the IDE drivers built into the CD32's Kickstart ROM.

There's no ROM in any of the pictures of the CD32 debug board.

https://bigbookofamigahardware.com/b...ct.aspx?id=271

As said 12 years ago this board is of little or no interest now you can freely buy the TF328 (or TF330 or TF360) and CD32 riser boards.

Matt_H · 27 May 2022, 15:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

As said 12 years ago this board is of little or no interest now you can freely buy the TF328 (or TF330 or TF360) and CD32 riser boards.

I mean, that's technically true, but it doesn't mean we should be throwing away historic pieces of hardware.

There's probably still something to learn from this board from an engineering standpoint.

CD32Freak · 27 May 2022, 15:26

Hi alexh,

Thanks for your reply. According to Brek Martin he got the developer Kickstart from an ex-Commodore employee so he could use the IDE interface: [ Show youtube player ]

The TF boards use the Gayle emulation to make IDE work, on the debug board IDE works slighty different. I am simply curious to learn why and how without a Gayle emulation.

a4k-oerx · 30 May 2022, 14:28

How does Paravision / Microbotics SX-1 provide ide support?

Is SX-1 basically a rebranded CD32 Debug Board? Or is it technically fundamentally different?

Matt_H · 30 May 2022, 19:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by a4k-oerx

How does Paravision / Microbotics SX-1 provide ide support?

Is SX-1 basically a rebranded CD32 Debug Board? Or is it technically fundamentally different?

Not sure on the technical aspects of SX-1’s IDE, but the board is definitely not a rebrand. It’s an entirely different design, but shares some functional similarities.

AMike · 31 May 2022, 11:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by CD32Freak

Hi alexh,

Thanks for your reply. According to Brek Martin he got the developer Kickstart from an ex-Commodore employee so he could use the IDE interface: [ Show youtube player ]

Is this special kickstart available - I own also one of these boards. Thanks

alexh · 31 May 2022, 12:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMike

Is this special kickstart available - I own also one of these boards. Thanks

Even if it was it would require desoldering the existing mask ROMs on the CD32 motherboard and replacing them with EPROM. You may as well buy a cheap TF328

a4k-oerx · 31 May 2022, 13:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

There's no ROM in any of the pictures of the CD32 debug board.

There is a chip labeled "IDE" at U16B in a picture in the video posted by CD32Freak at about minute 4:00 [ Show youtube player ]

And according to this older thread there is a CD32 rom 40.56 in a socket at U6A with a temp_ide 39.2 module for Debug Board according to xArtx there:

Quote:

Originally Posted by xArtx

TempIDE is for the HDD controller on the CD32 debug board.
I imagine they are incompatible because 40.60 does not work
with the debug board HDD controller.

So IDE with debug board needs this IDE chip and/or a special rom, even more confused now.

a4k-oerx · 08 June 2022, 15:04

Anybody with some insight how SX-1 and SX-32 do their IDE?

And are there CD32 motherboards without a socket for rom in U6A?

03 October 2010, 14:26	#1
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03 October 2010, 14:30	#2
Cosmos Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: France Posts: 655	Picture, please ! Interested, first in line

03 October 2010, 14:33	#3
Paul_s Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Amigaville Age: 46 Posts: 3,334	presume it's this... http://www.amiga-hardware.com/showha...cgi?HARDID=271

03 October 2010, 15:19	#4
alanbb9 Posts: n/a	Yes - that's it - if you want it you can pm/email me your address and I'll put it in the post. I don't want anything for it, just pleased if people can make use of old stuff.

03 October 2010, 15:24	#5
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	I would love this - but it would cosmos shouted first I beleive that this unit employs CIA's for Serial and Parrallel, it also has a Floppy Drive and IDE controller. Initially the board was only ever sent to Game Developers for testing/porting software- I would love to try my hand at developing a small 8MB fast ram card for it - so if Cosmos decideds not to go for it (of which I seriously doubt lol)- then I would be estemely in ones debt for a crack at this little monster - perhaps make a smaller form factor version.

03 October 2010, 15:28	#6
alanbb9 Posts: n/a	That's right - we had it for porting Simon the Sorcerer to the CD32 - though it's so long ago that I can remember very little abouth the process.

03 October 2010, 15:52	#7
Charlie . . Mouse . . Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Nowhere Age: 55 Posts: 1,792	Agent 88?

03 October 2010, 17:00	#8
Cosmos Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: France Posts: 655	> I don't want anything for it, just pleased if people can make use of old stuff Oh là là... Ok, Zetro, it's for you...

04 October 2010, 04:03	#9
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	@Cosmos Only if you are sure my friend, I can make you this promise that once I have mapped out the adapter I will send it onto you =)

04 October 2010, 06:45	#10
Cosmos Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: France Posts: 655	I prefere an SX32 Pro : I need that for my Kickstart 3.9.1...

27 May 2022, 08:41	#11
CD32Freak Registered User Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 115	Almost twelve years later...what happend to this debug board? Could the owner dump the developer kickstart and share it with the community? Apparently you need this ROM to make the IDE part work. Thanks in advance.

27 May 2022, 15:26	#14
CD32Freak Registered User Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 115	Hi alexh, Thanks for your reply. According to Brek Martin he got the developer Kickstart from an ex-Commodore employee so he could use the IDE interface: [ Show youtube player ] The TF boards use the Gayle emulation to make IDE work, on the debug board IDE works slighty different. I am simply curious to learn why and how without a Gayle emulation.

30 May 2022, 14:28	#15
a4k-oerx Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: EU Posts: 163	How does Paravision / Microbotics SX-1 provide ide support? Is SX-1 basically a rebranded CD32 Debug Board? Or is it technically fundamentally different?

08 June 2022, 15:04	#20
a4k-oerx Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: EU Posts: 163	Anybody with some insight how SX-1 and SX-32 do their IDE? And are there CD32 motherboards without a socket for rom in U6A?

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