Supercars 2 AGA - Page 9

jotd · 16 June 2021, 18:21

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Originally Posted by DDNI

Thanks.
I was second, can't recall if I blew up. Is finishing last if you blow up at race end a game feature?

yes, if you have 0 energy. And at the last race you get a game over but it doesn't matter since the game is over either way.

saimon69 · 16 June 2021, 18:55

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Originally Posted by jotd

even the in-game lotus 3 tracks?

Yeah, lotus was a music OR sfx so all are four channels

vulture · 16 June 2021, 23:18

I can't commend you enough for your work jotd! Looks and plays great! Here's an idea, dunno if possible tho: could you add some kind of colour cycling to the waters? If it's not much work, I think it'd liven up the place

Edit:
Regarding the music, Black Viper has music+fx and the tunes are great, maybe check if those are 3ch and could be adapted more easily?

saimon69 · 17 June 2021, 00:30

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Originally Posted by vulture

Edit:
Regarding the music, Black Viper has music+fx and the tunes are great, maybe check if those are 3ch and could be adapted more easily?

From Darkwave to post-apocalyptic ^^

ransom1122 · 17 June 2021, 02:56

Alright had a Jam session with Lotus 1,2,3 and Super Cars 2. And this is how it sounds. All mods a 4 channel so there is audio cut when sfx are enabled. Meh it is what is is

[ Show youtube player ]

Would be nice to use the Lotus II - R.E.C.S. Megadrive music but its in mp3 :/

jotd · 17 June 2021, 08:35

Phx ptplayer makes it possible to have 4-channel + sfx sounding not too bad.

I added 6 Lotus 3 tracks, decreasing the volume a little bit, and it sounds okay, specially in the easy level where there aren't too many explosions

. Now music selection is 1) no music 2) saimon tunes 3) Lotus 3 (which has the best in-game tunes IMHO but I could add Lotus 1 too in the mix)

Anyway, cheap & easy change. Let's do it.

tomcat666 · 17 June 2021, 09:10

Yes, please add Lotus 1 in the mix with Lotus 3 selection

Those are sooo good and classic

vulture · 17 June 2021, 09:27

@saimon69
Yes, maybe they're a bit too dark for SC2, you're right

@jotd
Great job, can't wait to try it out!

jotd · 17 June 2021, 10:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomcat666

Yes, please add Lotus 1 in the mix with Lotus 3 selection

Those are sooo good and classic

yes, it's a logical move. Supercars (the first) also comes to mind but the files aren't modules (Ben Daglish)... too bad as they're probably 3 channel...

DanielAllsopp · 17 June 2021, 10:48

Didn't roondar create a really cool, and fast audio mixer that allows channels to be mixed realtime so you can end up with 6 channels in total?

http://powerprograms.nl/amiga/audio-mixing.html

It even has a 020 optimised version too. Maybe the samples will need some tweaking but this might be a nice addition too?

jotd · 17 June 2021, 14:00

If it's not too much hassle that could be interesting. The game trashes A4 in the blitter interrupts (and also expects it to be pointing on a blitter list), so I had to adapt some parts of the phx replay. Also it runs on CIA interrupts which is very good for this game.

Maybe it can be used on other games more easily.

masteries · 17 June 2021, 15:12

Excellent recolored work!

But this is the type of racing games that looks awesome until... it reaches the gameplay, its a top down style

instead an Outrun style one,

ransom1122 · 17 June 2021, 15:25

The lotus tracks work well with it. Up beat and gets you in the mood to play.

If you could have both tracks from lotus and saimon69 and have a choice on splash screen would be ideal.

jotd · 17 June 2021, 16:23

@masteries it's a matter of taste

Me neither, I don't like top down racing games except for the supercars series and maybe skidmarks (if that counts).

BTW I have the source code for Lotus 1. Maybe an AGA version at some point ? wink wink.

@ransom1122: yes, I have implemented it. Will release it in a few.

Phantomz · 17 June 2021, 16:43

Thanks again for this jotd, great work.

Looking forward to playing it with Lotus tracks, sort of make it's feel more official coming from other MF games.

saimon69 · 17 June 2021, 17:25

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Originally Posted by vulture

@saimon69
Yes, maybe they're a bit too dark for SC2, you're right

We could even ask Jotd to make some post-nuclear or new wave circuits so it will fits, in fact the idea of cars shooting stuff at each other is very post-nuclear or utopic - we will have Hokuto no supercars :P

jotd · 17 June 2021, 17:58

I'm not a graphician... I just steal stuff & assemble it

rare_j · 17 June 2021, 19:34

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Originally Posted by jotd

BTW I have the source code for Lotus 1. Maybe an AGA version at some point ? wink wink.

Wow, yes that is potentially very exciting, depending on what's possible.

saimon69 · 17 June 2021, 19:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by jotd

BTW I have the source code for Lotus 1. Maybe an AGA version at some point ?

Lotus 1 was a 16 color no DPF game so at least if you can push 32 colors and have cars of different tint will be an improvement

jotd · 17 June 2021, 21:44

I'm pretty sure that the game code is very similar to Supercars 2 code.

If it's 16 colors it means that it can be made 32 colors without making it AGA? I don't know about this game. We'll see.

16 June 2021, 23:18	#163
vulture Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Athens , Greece Posts: 1,840	I can't commend you enough for your work jotd! Looks and plays great! Here's an idea, dunno if possible tho: could you add some kind of colour cycling to the waters? If it's not much work, I think it'd liven up the place Edit: Regarding the music, Black Viper has music+fx and the tunes are great, maybe check if those are 3ch and could be adapted more easily? Last edited by vulture; 16 June 2021 at 23:35.

17 June 2021, 02:56	#165
ransom1122 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Omnicorp Age: 45 Posts: 5,812	Alright had a Jam session with Lotus 1,2,3 and Super Cars 2. And this is how it sounds. All mods a 4 channel so there is audio cut when sfx are enabled. Meh it is what is is [ Show youtube player ] Would be nice to use the Lotus II - R.E.C.S. Megadrive music but its in mp3 :/ Last edited by ransom1122; 17 June 2021 at 08:54.

17 June 2021, 15:25	#173
ransom1122 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Omnicorp Age: 45 Posts: 5,812	The lotus tracks work well with it. Up beat and gets you in the mood to play. If you could have both tracks from lotus and saimon69 and have a choice on splash screen would be ideal. Last edited by ransom1122; 17 June 2021 at 15:50.

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17 June 2021, 08:35	#166
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,162	Phx ptplayer makes it possible to have 4-channel + sfx sounding not too bad. I added 6 Lotus 3 tracks, decreasing the volume a little bit, and it sounds okay, specially in the easy level where there aren't too many explosions . Now music selection is 1) no music 2) saimon tunes 3) Lotus 3 (which has the best in-game tunes IMHO but I could add Lotus 1 too in the mix) Anyway, cheap & easy change. Let's do it.

17 June 2021, 09:10	#167
tomcat666 Retro Freak Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Slovenia Age: 51 Posts: 1,647	Yes, please add Lotus 1 in the mix with Lotus 3 selection Those are sooo good and classic

17 June 2021, 09:27	#168
vulture Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Athens , Greece Posts: 1,840	@saimon69 Yes, maybe they're a bit too dark for SC2, you're right @jotd Great job, can't wait to try it out!

17 June 2021, 10:48	#170
DanielAllsopp Registered User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Northumberland, UK Posts: 272	Didn't roondar create a really cool, and fast audio mixer that allows channels to be mixed realtime so you can end up with 6 channels in total? http://powerprograms.nl/amiga/audio-mixing.html It even has a 020 optimised version too. Maybe the samples will need some tweaking but this might be a nice addition too?

17 June 2021, 14:00	#171
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,162	If it's not too much hassle that could be interesting. The game trashes A4 in the blitter interrupts (and also expects it to be pointing on a blitter list), so I had to adapt some parts of the phx replay. Also it runs on CIA interrupts which is very good for this game. Maybe it can be used on other games more easily.

17 June 2021, 15:12	#172
masteries Registered User Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Madrid Age: 40 Posts: 195	Excellent recolored work! But this is the type of racing games that looks awesome until... it reaches the gameplay, its a top down style instead an Outrun style one,

17 June 2021, 16:23	#174
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,162	@masteries it's a matter of taste Me neither, I don't like top down racing games except for the supercars series and maybe skidmarks (if that counts). BTW I have the source code for Lotus 1. Maybe an AGA version at some point ? wink wink. @ransom1122: yes, I have implemented it. Will release it in a few.

17 June 2021, 16:43	#175
Phantomz Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: UK Age: 51 Posts: 214	Thanks again for this jotd, great work. Looking forward to playing it with Lotus tracks, sort of make it's feel more official coming from other MF games.

17 June 2021, 17:58	#177
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,162	I'm not a graphician... I just steal stuff & assemble it

17 June 2021, 21:44	#180
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,162	I'm pretty sure that the game code is very similar to Supercars 2 code. If it's 16 colors it means that it can be made 32 colors without making it AGA? I don't know about this game. We'll see.

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