Sonnet 7200 PCI programming - Page 252

spudje · 29 March 2022, 22:33

Removing some of the dlls and adding a stack of 1.000.000 didn't help.

This is snoopdos log as far as I can capture events, starting PPC and then running Quake2:

PHP Code:


			
248   SYS:System/CLI     ChangeDir  SYS:                                                 

 249   [1] assign         OpenLib    utility.library                          Ver 37  OK  

/250   [1] InitPPC        OpenLib    powerpc.library                          Ver 0       

 251   ramlib             Load       LIBS:powerpc.library                             OK  

 252   ramlib             OpenLib    utility.library                          Ver 0   OK  

 253   ramlib             OpenLib    expansion.library                        Ver 37  OK  

 254   ramlib             OpenLib    prometheus.library                       Ver 4   OK  

/255   ramlib             OpenLib    ppc.library                              Ver 46      

 256   ramlib             Open       LIBS:ppc.library                         Read    Fail

 257   ramlib             Load       LIBS:ppc.library                                 Fail

 258   ramlib             Open       System:ppc.library                       Read    Fail

\255   ramlib             OpenLib    ppc.library                              Ver 46  Fail

 259   ramlib             Load       System:ppc.library                               Fail

\250   [1] InitPPC        OpenLib    powerpc.library                          Ver 0   OK  

 260   [1] quake2         OpenLib    powerpc.library                          Ver 14  OK  

 261   [1] quake2         Open       *                                        Write   OK  

 262   [1] quake2         Open       Work:Games/Quake2/baseq2/pak0.pak        Read    OK  

 263   [1] quake2         Open       Work:Games/Quake2/baseq2/pak1.pak        Read    Fail

 264   [1] quake2         Open       Work:Games/Quake2/baseq2/pak2.pak        Read    Fail

 265   [1] quake2         Open       Work:Games/Quake2/baseq2/pak3.pak        Read    Fail

 266   [1] quake2         Open       Work:Games/Quake2/baseq2/pak4.pak        Read    Fail

 267   [1] quake2         Open       Work:Games/Quake2/baseq2/pak5.pak        Read    Fail

 268   [1] quake2         Open       Work:Games/Quake2/baseq2/pak6.pak        Read    Fail

 269   [1] quake2         Open       Work:Games/Quake2/baseq2/pak7.pak        Read    Fail

 270   [1] quake2         Open       Work:Games/Quake2/baseq2/pak8.pak        Read    Fail

 271   [1] quake2         Open       Work:Games/Quake2/baseq2/pak9.pak        Read    Fail

 272   [1] quake2         Open       Work:Games/Quake2/baseq2/pak0.pak        Read    OK  

 273   [1] quake2         Open       Work:Games/Quake2/baseq2/config.cfg      Read    Fail

 274   [1] quake2         OpenLib    intuition.library                        Ver 0   OK  

 275   [1] quake2         OpenLib    graphics.library                         Ver 0   OK  

/276   [1] quake2         OpenLib    bsdsocket.library                        Ver 0       

 277   ramlib             Open       LIBS:bsdsocket.library                   Read    Fail

 278   ramlib             Load       LIBS:bsdsocket.library                           Fail

 279   ramlib             Open       Work:Games/Quake2/bsdsocket.library      Read    Fail

 280   ramlib             Load       Work:Games/Quake2/bsdsocket.library              Fail

\276   [1] quake2         OpenLib    bsdsocket.library                        Ver 0   Fail

 281   [1] quake2         OpenLib    keymap.library                           Ver 0   OK  

 282   [1] quake2         Open       Work:Games/Quake2/ref_soft.dll           Read    OK  

 283   [1] quake2         Open       CON:0/0/800/600/DLL_OUTPUT/AUTO/CLOSE/WA Write   OK  

 284   [1] quake2         System     ref_soft.dll ref_soft.dll                        0   

 285   [3] ref_soft.dll   OpenLib    powerpc.library                          Ver 14  OK  

 286   [3] ref_soft.dll   Open       *                                        Write   OK  

 287   [1] quake2         Open       Work:Games/Quake2/baseq2/pak0.pak        Read    OK  

 288   [1] quake2         Open       Work:Games/Quake2/baseq2/pak0.pak        Read    OK  

 289   [1] quake2         OpenLib    cybergraphics.library                    Ver 0   OK  

 290   [1] quake2         OpenLib    intuition.library                        Ver 0   OK  

 291   [1] quake2         OpenLib    graphics.library                         Ver 0   OK

Cowcat · 29 March 2022, 22:48

For more Q2 check the thread I have.

And what happens after? It stays there ?

Do you have a network connection on your system ?

spudje · 30 March 2022, 10:57

I don't get more, after this the screen turns off. As if it selects a screen mode/rtg card that does not exist.

No, I don't have network configured (yet), I guess that's Q2 just checking whether I have or not. Cannot imagine absense of bsdsocket.library causes the problem.

Yes, I guess we should go back to the Q2 thread, as everything else so far in the end works.

BULI · 30 March 2022, 11:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by BULI

On my BlitzQuake setup, and when Workbench have high resolution desktop and more bitmaps in system and VRAM is smaller, Quake GL have problem with smooth animation (I will show video soon).

Here is an example VIDEO of low VRAM problem:
[ Show youtube player ]

spudje · 30 March 2022, 13:49

If I understand correctly there is no such thing as a gfxaddr ENVARC in the prometheus/PCI PPC world? However, the behaviour I get with Quake2 (not opening the proper screen, but simply black screen/no signal) seems very similar to behaviour when gfxaddr is wrongly configured.

BULI · 30 March 2022, 20:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by spudje

If I understand correctly there is no such thing as a gfxaddr ENVARC in the prometheus/PCI PPC world? However, the behaviour I get with Quake2 (not opening the proper screen, but simply black screen/no signal) seems very similar to behaviour when gfxaddr is wrongly configured.

Gfxaddr parametr with "sonnet.library" doesn't matter.
Try use program to screens promotion, like "New Mode" and check what screen is opening via Quake 2

Wrangler · 30 March 2022, 21:30

@spudje Have you followed this? https://github.com/Sakura-IT/SonnetA...allation-guide

spudje · 30 March 2022, 22:04

I have many times in the past. So not literally anymore now, and it is still mainly focused on Sonnet & Mediator.

But as posted in the Quake2 thread, I got it working finally.

BULI · 31 March 2022, 07:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by spudje

But as posted in the Quake2 thread, I got it working finally.

jkdsteve · 03 April 2022, 00:53

Well I finally got my old CSPPC back in action so I could run Tornado3D.

My question is did anyone ever get Tornado 3D (3.0 or earlier one) running with Hedeon PowerPC emulation using an appropriate PCI PPC. I have an 800MHz something or other.

It always bombs out for me trying to initialize the PPC -I figure it makes some illegal data read and causes an exception.

grelbfarlk · 03 April 2022, 03:58

I did get it running somewhat, I could launch it and open the modeler and so on. Usually it bombed out when trying to render. If Frank Wille's ppc.library is working with other applications of the kind, it should work. GUI heavy applications like this that use ppc.library are pretty unstable for me though, like Prostation Audio.

jkdsteve · 04 April 2022, 23:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by grelbfarlk

I did get it running somewhat, I could launch it and open the modeler and so on. Usually it bombed out when trying to render. If Frank Wille's ppc.library is working with other applications of the kind, it should work. GUI heavy applications like this that use ppc.library are pretty unstable for me though, like Prostation Audio.

Same, I was hoping someone had discovered a combination of WarpOS and Sonnet variable that made it work.

It's a fun program at 200MHz, would love to see what 800 looked like with fast memory access....probably just crash faster ;-)

Hedeon · 05 April 2022, 00:00

Send me an installation and instructions on how to recreate the error, if you want.

jkdsteve · 05 April 2022, 01:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hedeon

Send me an installation and instructions on how to recreate the error, if you want.

I wish I could but sadly I don't have a cracked version, this thing accesses a dongle using potgo.resource :-/

jkdsteve · 05 April 2022, 04:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hedeon

Send me an installation and instructions on how to recreate the error, if you want.

Is there a way/patch to force PPC code to allocmem on the PPC ?

The reason I ask is because I think it’s possible to have the PPC render run so long as I change the priority of the ppc memory in the mem list to supersede all others and yes it sucks for load/save and screen updates

I’m thinking Tornado does some weird 68/PPC hybrid render, so when everything is PPC memory the 68k side is really hampered but when the data is in 68k memory then the kernel throws a Data Access exception.

Hedeon · 05 April 2022, 08:53

Normally, that is exactly what the library does. But maybe it uses modules or something exotic. Then I hard code it into the library. But for that I need the program to test. Sadly, that seems not possible.

That it throws a DSI is probably due to fpu instructions as most integer accesses get handled.

jkdsteve · 05 April 2022, 22:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hedeon

Normally, that is exactly what the library does. But maybe it uses modules or something exotic. Then I hard code it into the library. But for that I need the program to test. Sadly, that seems not possible.

That it throws a DSI is probably due to fpu instructions as most integer accesses get handled.

I mean, I could probably ship you the dongle and software but not sure of effort for you on al, what?l 3? Tornado users ;-)

It's a PPCLIBEMU app of course.

Attached DSI output for reference:

BULI · 06 April 2022, 09:33

RTCW on Ragnarok with INTRO Remastered (with Machine Learning AI converted from YT)

[ Show youtube player ]

Hedeon · 06 April 2022, 11:45

Together with JK the highlights of WarpOS :-) Thanks for the video and thanks CowCat.

Makes me want to make a video again. I think I have a nice topic.

BULI · 06 April 2022, 13:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hedeon

Makes me want to make a video again. I think I have a nice topic.

So, we are waiting patiently

29 March 2022, 22:33	#5021
spudje Registered User Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,406	Removing some of the dlls and adding a stack of 1.000.000 didn't help. This is snoopdos log as far as I can capture events, starting PPC and then running Quake2: PHP Code: 248 SYS:System/CLI ChangeDir SYS: 249 [1] assign OpenLib utility.library Ver 37 OK /250 [1] InitPPC OpenLib powerpc.library Ver 0 251 ramlib Load LIBS:powerpc.library OK 252 ramlib OpenLib utility.library Ver 0 OK 253 ramlib OpenLib expansion.library Ver 37 OK 254 ramlib OpenLib prometheus.library Ver 4 OK /255 ramlib OpenLib ppc.library Ver 46 256 ramlib Open LIBS:ppc.library Read Fail 257 ramlib Load LIBS:ppc.library Fail 258 ramlib Open System:ppc.library Read Fail \255 ramlib OpenLib ppc.library Ver 46 Fail 259 ramlib Load System:ppc.library Fail \250 [1] InitPPC OpenLib powerpc.library Ver 0 OK 260 [1] quake2 OpenLib powerpc.library Ver 14 OK 261 [1] quake2 Open * Write OK 262 [1] quake2 Open Work:Games/Quake2/baseq2/pak0.pak Read OK 263 [1] quake2 Open Work:Games/Quake2/baseq2/pak1.pak Read Fail 264 [1] quake2 Open Work:Games/Quake2/baseq2/pak2.pak Read Fail 265 [1] quake2 Open Work:Games/Quake2/baseq2/pak3.pak Read Fail 266 [1] quake2 Open Work:Games/Quake2/baseq2/pak4.pak Read Fail 267 [1] quake2 Open Work:Games/Quake2/baseq2/pak5.pak Read Fail 268 [1] quake2 Open Work:Games/Quake2/baseq2/pak6.pak Read Fail 269 [1] quake2 Open Work:Games/Quake2/baseq2/pak7.pak Read Fail 270 [1] quake2 Open Work:Games/Quake2/baseq2/pak8.pak Read Fail 271 [1] quake2 Open Work:Games/Quake2/baseq2/pak9.pak Read Fail 272 [1] quake2 Open Work:Games/Quake2/baseq2/pak0.pak Read OK 273 [1] quake2 Open Work:Games/Quake2/baseq2/config.cfg Read Fail 274 [1] quake2 OpenLib intuition.library Ver 0 OK 275 [1] quake2 OpenLib graphics.library Ver 0 OK /276 [1] quake2 OpenLib bsdsocket.library Ver 0 277 ramlib Open LIBS:bsdsocket.library Read Fail 278 ramlib Load LIBS:bsdsocket.library Fail 279 ramlib Open Work:Games/Quake2/bsdsocket.library Read Fail 280 ramlib Load Work:Games/Quake2/bsdsocket.library Fail \276 [1] quake2 OpenLib bsdsocket.library Ver 0 Fail 281 [1] quake2 OpenLib keymap.library Ver 0 OK 282 [1] quake2 Open Work:Games/Quake2/ref_soft.dll Read OK 283 [1] quake2 Open CON:0/0/800/600/DLL_OUTPUT/AUTO/CLOSE/WA Write OK 284 [1] quake2 System ref_soft.dll ref_soft.dll 0 285 [3] ref_soft.dll OpenLib powerpc.library Ver 14 OK 286 [3] ref_soft.dll Open * Write OK 287 [1] quake2 Open Work:Games/Quake2/baseq2/pak0.pak Read OK 288 [1] quake2 Open Work:Games/Quake2/baseq2/pak0.pak Read OK 289 [1] quake2 OpenLib cybergraphics.library Ver 0 OK 290 [1] quake2 OpenLib intuition.library Ver 0 OK 291 [1] quake2 OpenLib graphics.library Ver 0 OK

03 April 2022, 00:53	#5030
jkdsteve Registered User Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: USA Posts: 67	Well I finally got my old CSPPC back in action so I could run Tornado3D. My question is did anyone ever get Tornado 3D (3.0 or earlier one) running with Hedeon PowerPC emulation using an appropriate PCI PPC. I have an 800MHz something or other. It always bombs out for me trying to initialize the PPC -I figure it makes some illegal data read and causes an exception. Last edited by jkdsteve; 03 April 2022 at 01:00.

03 April 2022, 03:58	#5031
grelbfarlk Registered User Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: USA Posts: 2,902	I did get it running somewhat, I could launch it and open the modeler and so on. Usually it bombed out when trying to render. If Frank Wille's ppc.library is working with other applications of the kind, it should work. GUI heavy applications like this that use ppc.library are pretty unstable for me though, like Prostation Audio. Last edited by grelbfarlk; 03 April 2022 at 04:10.

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29 March 2022, 22:48	#5022
Cowcat Registered User Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Mallorca Posts: 758	For more Q2 check the thread I have. And what happens after? It stays there ? Do you have a network connection on your system ?

30 March 2022, 10:57	#5023
spudje Registered User Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,406	I don't get more, after this the screen turns off. As if it selects a screen mode/rtg card that does not exist. No, I don't have network configured (yet), I guess that's Q2 just checking whether I have or not. Cannot imagine absense of bsdsocket.library causes the problem. Yes, I guess we should go back to the Q2 thread, as everything else so far in the end works.

30 March 2022, 13:49	#5025
spudje Registered User Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,406	If I understand correctly there is no such thing as a gfxaddr ENVARC in the prometheus/PCI PPC world? However, the behaviour I get with Quake2 (not opening the proper screen, but simply black screen/no signal) seems very similar to behaviour when gfxaddr is wrongly configured.

30 March 2022, 21:30	#5027
Wrangler Registered User Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: London, UK Posts: 414	@spudje Have you followed this? https://github.com/Sakura-IT/SonnetA...allation-guide

30 March 2022, 22:04	#5028
spudje Registered User Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,406	I have many times in the past. So not literally anymore now, and it is still mainly focused on Sonnet & Mediator. But as posted in the Quake2 thread, I got it working finally.

05 April 2022, 00:00	#5033
Hedeon Semi-Retired Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Leiden / The Netherlands Posts: 1,993	Send me an installation and instructions on how to recreate the error, if you want.

05 April 2022, 08:53	#5036
Hedeon Semi-Retired Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Leiden / The Netherlands Posts: 1,993	Normally, that is exactly what the library does. But maybe it uses modules or something exotic. Then I hard code it into the library. But for that I need the program to test. Sadly, that seems not possible. That it throws a DSI is probably due to fpu instructions as most integer accesses get handled.

06 April 2022, 09:33	#5038
BULI Registered User Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Rzeszów Posts: 404	RTCW on Ragnarok with INTRO Remastered (with Machine Learning AI converted from YT) [ Show youtube player ]

06 April 2022, 11:45	#5039
Hedeon Semi-Retired Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Leiden / The Netherlands Posts: 1,993	Together with JK the highlights of WarpOS :-) Thanks for the video and thanks CowCat. Makes me want to make a video again. I think I have a nice topic.

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